[Users] Request for Wiki - dates

Brian Proffitt bproffit at redhat.com
Mon Mar 17 14:47:22 UTC 2014


FYI, I am in discussion with the sysadmin for OSAS to build a script to perhaps stick a universal "Lastupdated..." field on every page, down by the footer.

That should do it.


BKP

----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sandro Bonazzola" <sbonazzo at redhat.com>
> To: "Brian Proffitt" <bproffit at redhat.com>
> Cc: "Dave Neary" <nearyd at gmail.com>, "Bob Doolittle" <bob at doolittle.us.com>, "users" <users at ovirt.org>
> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 8:26:19 AM
> Subject: Re: [Users] Request for Wiki - dates
> 
> Il 17/03/2014 13:15, Brian Proffitt ha scritto:
> > I would have no issue manually doing this, but the problem is as soon as I
> > do, every page will automatically be updated to today's date with my name
> > as soon as I hit "Save." So a bot might be good. Or a template change.
> > 
> 
> I guess we can just go over http://www.ovirt.org/Special:AncientPages,
> contact owner / writer of the page / feature and ask him / her to update to
> current status.
> 
> 
> > BKP
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Sandro Bonazzola" <sbonazzo at redhat.com>
> >> To: "Dave Neary" <nearyd at gmail.com>, "Bob Doolittle"
> >> <bob at doolittle.us.com>, "users" <users at ovirt.org>
> >> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 8:03:23 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [Users] Request for Wiki - dates
> >>
> >> Il 14/03/2014 18:16, Dave Neary ha scritto:
> >>> Hi Bob,
> >>>
> >>> What I'd love to see is a way for people to flag content out-of-date.
> >>> "Last updated" doesn't tell you about the feature that is stable and
> >>> unchanged since 3.0, nor does it tell you that the feature is in
> >>> constant flux and the latest commit just changed everything.
> >>>
> >>> You need 2 dates for maximum usefulness: "Last updated", and "Flagged
> >>> out of date" - if last updated is after the flagged date, something is
> >>> wrong (flag should have been removed). If the flag is there then the
> >>> page needs updating. Ideally, flagging the page would indicate the
> >>> reason for the flag.
> >>>
> >>> Anyone know how you'd do this in a maintainable way in MediaWiki?
> >>
> >> Looking at mediawiki the only way I see is flagging all pages not updated
> >> in
> >> the last month with
> >>
> >> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Template:Outdated
> >>
> >> And having people to review them.
> >> I'm not sure if a bot can do the work of automatically flagging all pages
> >> not
> >> updated.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>> Dave.
> >>>
> >>> On 03/13/2014 05:53 PM, Bob Doolittle wrote:
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>> As most are aware, there's a lot of information on the Ovirt Wiki that's
> >>>> out of date. In spite of our best efforts, that will probably always be
> >>>> true - it's the nature of Wikis.
> >>>>
> >>>> When I look for information on our Wiki, I never know where the most
> >>>> current information is.
> >>>>
> >>>> I think it would be really helpful if someplace on each Wiki page was a
> >>>> useful date to let us know the currency of the info. Probably the most
> >>>> useful date is last-modified, although creation date might also be
> >>>> useful. Maybe we could even map/display the date to the version number
> >>>> of whatever the current stable release was at the time for context
> >>>> (sometimes the content of a page calls out a particular version it's
> >>>> addressing, but a lot of the time it does not).
> >>>>
> >>>> Just as an example, I want to find out about migrating my existing
> >>>> configuration to self-hosted, using 3.4 RC2. A google search shows the
> >>>> following links (in order shown):
> >>>>
> >>>> http://www.ovirt.org/Features/Self_Hosted_Engine
> >>>> http://www.ovirt.org/Migrate_to_Hosted_Engine
> >>>> http://www.ovirt.org/Hosted_Engine_Howto
> >>>> ...
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm sure the Features page is ancient at this point. It's hard to tell
> >>>> about the 2nd page.
> >>>>
> >>>> Of course the date a page was last modified doesn't directly indicate
> >>>> how correct/current the information is, but there's a correlation.
> >>>> Knowing the date would be useful in making a judgment. It might even
> >>>> help the task of identifying and cleaning up obsolete pages.
> >>>>
> >>>> Easy to do?
> >>>>
> >>>> -Bob
> >>>>
> >>>> _______________________________________________
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> >>>> Users at ovirt.org
> >>>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
> >>>
> >>
> >>
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