[ovirt-users] [ANN] oVirt 4.2.0 First Beta Release is now available for testing

Eduardo Mayoral emayoral at arsys.es
Tue Oct 31 20:10:40 UTC 2017 

Hey, for sporadic use, you will get used to the new interface soon enough.

For very repetitive tasks, you will probably be using the API anyway.

While I was happy with the old GUI, I do not see anything wrong with the
new one.

@devs: Thanks for the new version!

Eduardo Mayoral Jimeno (emayoral at arsys.es)
Administrador de sistemas. Departamento de Plataformas. Arsys internet.
+34 941 620 145 ext. 5153

On 31/10/17 19:01, FERNANDO FREDIANI wrote:
>
> Question is: who is the user ? There are different types of them for
> different proposes.
>
> Fernando
>
>
> On 31/10/2017 15:57, Oved Ourfali wrote:
>> As mentioned earlier, this is one motivation but not the only one.
>> You see right click less and less in web applications, as it isn't
>> considered a good user experience. This is also the patternfly
>> guideline (patternfly is a framework we heavily use throughout the
>> application). 
>>
>> We will however consider bringing this back if there will be high
>> demand. 
>>
>> Thanks for the feedback!
>> Oved 
>>
>> On Oct 31, 2017 7:50 PM, "Darrell Budic" <budic at onholyground.com
>> <mailto:budic at onholyground.com>> wrote:
>>
>>     Agreed. I use the right click functionality all the time and will
>>     miss it. With 70+ VMs, I may check status in a mobile interface,
>>     but I’m never going to use it for primary work. Please prioritize
>>     ease of use on Desktop over Mobile!
>>
>>
>>>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>     *From:* FERNANDO FREDIANI <fernando.frediani at upx.com
>>>     <mailto:fernando.frediani at upx.com>>
>>>     *Subject:* Re: [ovirt-users] [ANN] oVirt 4.2.0 First Beta
>>>     Release is now available for testing
>>>     *Date:* October 31, 2017 at 11:59:20 AM CDT
>>>     *To:* users at ovirt.org <mailto:users at ovirt.org>
>>>
>>>
>>>     On 31/10/2017 13:43, Alexander Wels wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>     Will the right click dialog be available in the final release?
>>>>>     Because,
>>>>>     currently in 4.2 we need to go at the up right corner to
>>>>>     interact with
>>>>>     object (migrate, maintenance...)
>>>>>
>>>>     Short answer: No, we removed it on purpose.
>>>>
>>>>     Long answer: No, here are the reasons why:
>>>>     - We are attempting to get the UI more mobile friendly, and
>>>>     while its not 100%
>>>>     there yet, it is actually quite useable on a mobile device now.
>>>>     Mobile devices
>>>>     don't have a right click, so hiding functionality in there
>>>>     would make no
>>>>     sense.
>>>     Please don't put mobile usage over Desktop usage. While mobile
>>>     usage is nice to have in "certain" situations. In real day by
>>>     day operation nobody uses mobile devices to do their deployments
>>>     and manage their large environments. If having both options
>>>     where you can switch between then is nice, but if something
>>>     should prevail should always be Desktop. We are not talking
>>>     about a Stock Trading interface or something you need that level
>>>     or flexibility and mobility to do static things anytime anywhere.
>>>
>>>     So I beg you to consider well before remove things which are
>>>     pretty useful for a day by day and real management usage because
>>>     of a new trend or buzz stuff.
>>>     Right click is always on popular on Desktop enviroments and will
>>>     be for quite a while.
>>>>     - You can now right click and get the browsers menu instead of
>>>>     ours and you
>>>>     can do things like copy from the menu.
>>>>     - We replicated all the functionality from the menu in the
>>>>     buttons/kebab menu
>>>>     available on the right. Our goal was to have all the commonly
>>>>     used actions as
>>>>     a button, and less often used actions in the kebab to declutter
>>>>     the interface.
>>>>     We traded an extra click for some mouse travel
>>>>     - Lots of people didn't realize there even was a right click
>>>>     menu because its
>>>>     a web interface, and they couldn't find some functionality that
>>>>     was only
>>>>     available in the right click menu.
>>>>
>>>>     Now that being said, we are still debating if it was a good
>>>>     move or not. For
>>>>     now we want to see how it plays out, if a lot of people want it
>>>>     back, it is
>>>>     certainly possible we will put it back.
>>>>
>>>>>>     that is something you are interested in. Its also much faster
>>>>>>     and better
>>>>>>     than before.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     On 31/10/2017 10:13, Sandro Bonazzola wrote:
>>>>>>>>     The oVirt Project is pleased to announce the availability
>>>>>>>>     of the First
>>>>>>>>     Beta Release of oVirt 4.2.0, as of October 31st, 2017
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     This is pre-release software. This pre-release should not
>>>>>>>>     to be used
>>>>>>>>     in production.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     Please take a look at our community page[1] to learn how to ask
>>>>>>>>     questions and interact with developers and users.All issues
>>>>>>>>     or bugs
>>>>>>>>     should be reported via oVirt Bugzilla[2].
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     This update is the first beta release of the 4.2.0 version.
>>>>>>>>     This
>>>>>>>>     release brings more than 230 enhancements and more than one
>>>>>>>>     thousand
>>>>>>>>     bug fixes, including more than 380 high or urgent severity
>>>>>>>>     fixes, on
>>>>>>>>     top of oVirt 4.1 series.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     What's new in oVirt 4.2.0?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>       *
>>>>>>>>             The Administration Portalhas been completely
>>>>>>>>     redesigned using
>>>>>>>>          Patternfly, a widely adopted standard in web
>>>>>>>>     application design.
>>>>>>>>          It now features a cleaner, more intuitive design, for
>>>>>>>>     an improved
>>>>>>>>          user experience.
>>>>>>>>          *
>>>>>>>>             There is an all-new VM Portalfor non-admin users.
>>>>>>>>          *
>>>>>>>>             A new High Performance virtual machinetype has been
>>>>>>>>     added to the
>>>>>>>>          New VM dialog box in the Administration Portal.
>>>>>>>>          *
>>>>>>>>             Open Virtual Network (OVN)adds support for Open
>>>>>>>>     vSwitch software
>>>>>>>>          defined networking (SDN).
>>>>>>>>          *
>>>>>>>>             oVirt now supports Nvidia vGPU.
>>>>>>>>          *
>>>>>>>>             The ovirt-ansible-rolespackage helps users with common
>>>>>>>>          administration tasks.
>>>>>>>>          *
>>>>>>>>             Virt-v2vnow supports Debian/Ubuntu based VMs.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     For more information about these and other features, check
>>>>>>>>     out the
>>>>>>>>     oVirt 4.2.0 blog post
>>>>>>>>     <https://ovirt.org/blog/2017/09/introducing-ovirt-4.2.0/
>>>>>>>>     <https://ovirt.org/blog/2017/09/introducing-ovirt-4.2.0/>>.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     This release is available now on x86_64 architecture for:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     * Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7.4 or later
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     * CentOS Linux (or similar) 7.4 or later
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     This release supports Hypervisor Hosts on x86_64 and ppc64le
>>>>>>>>     architectures for:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     * Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7.4 or later
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     * CentOS Linux (or similar) 7.4 or later
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     * oVirt Node 4.2 (available for x86_64 only)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     See the release notes draft [3] for installation / upgrade
>>>>>>>>     instructions and a list of new features and bugs fixed.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     Notes:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     - oVirt Appliance is already available.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     - An async release of oVirt Node will follow soon.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     Additional Resources:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     * Read more about the oVirt 4.2.0 release highlights:
>>>>>>>>     http://www.ovirt.org/release/4.2.0/
>>>>>>>>     <http://www.ovirt.org/release/4.2.0/>
>>>>>>>>     <http://www.ovirt.org/release/4.2.0/
>>>>>>>>     <http://www.ovirt.org/release/4.2.0/>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     * Get more oVirt project updates on Twitter:
>>>>>>>>     https://twitter.com/ovirt
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     * Check out the latest project news on the oVirt blog:
>>>>>>>>     http://www.ovirt.org/blog/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     [1] https://www.ovirt.org/community/
>>>>>>>>     <https://www.ovirt.org/community/>
>>>>>>>>     <https://www.ovirt.org/community/
>>>>>>>>     <https://www.ovirt.org/community/>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     [2]
>>>>>>>>     https://bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi?classification=oVirt
>>>>>>>>     <https://bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi?classification=oVirt>
>>>>>>>>     <https://bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi?classification=oVirt
>>>>>>>>     <https://bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi?classification=oVirt>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     [3] http://www.ovirt.org/release/4.2.0/
>>>>>>>>     <http://www.ovirt.org/release/4.2.0/>
>>>>>>>>     <http://www.ovirt.org/release/4.2.0/
>>>>>>>>     <http://www.ovirt.org/release/4.2.0/>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     [4] http://resources.ovirt.org/pub/ovirt-4.2-pre/iso/
>>>>>>>>     <http://resources.ovirt.org/pub/ovirt-4.2-pre/iso/>
>>>>>>>>     <http://resources.ovirt.org/pub/ovirt-4.2-pre/iso/
>>>>>>>>     <http://resources.ovirt.org/pub/ovirt-4.2-pre/iso/>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     SANDRO BONAZZOLA
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     ASSOCIATE MANAGER, SOFTWARE ENGINEERING, EMEA ENG
>>>>>>>>     VIRTUALIZATION R&D
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     Red Hat EMEA <https://www.redhat.com/>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     <https://red.ht/sig>
>>>>>>>>     TRIED. TESTED. TRUSTED. <https://redhat.com/trusted>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     <http://www.teraplan.it/redhat-osd-2017/
>>>>>>>>     <http://www.teraplan.it/redhat-osd-2017/>>
>>>>>>>>
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