[ovirt-users] [ANN] oVirt 4.2.0 First Beta Release is now available for testing
FERNANDO FREDIANI
fernando.frediani at upx.com
Tue Oct 31 18:01:38 UTC 2017
Question is: who is the user ? There are different types of them for
different proposes.
Fernando
On 31/10/2017 15:57, Oved Ourfali wrote:
> As mentioned earlier, this is one motivation but not the only one. You
> see right click less and less in web applications, as it isn't
> considered a good user experience. This is also the patternfly
> guideline (patternfly is a framework we heavily use throughout the
> application).
>
> We will however consider bringing this back if there will be high demand.
>
> Thanks for the feedback!
> Oved
>
> On Oct 31, 2017 7:50 PM, "Darrell Budic" <budic at onholyground.com
> <mailto:budic at onholyground.com>> wrote:
>
> Agreed. I use the right click functionality all the time and will
> miss it. With 70+ VMs, I may check status in a mobile interface,
> but I’m never going to use it for primary work. Please prioritize
> ease of use on Desktop over Mobile!
>
>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *From:* FERNANDO FREDIANI <fernando.frediani at upx.com
>> <mailto:fernando.frediani at upx.com>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [ovirt-users] [ANN] oVirt 4.2.0 First Beta Release
>> is now available for testing
>> *Date:* October 31, 2017 at 11:59:20 AM CDT
>> *To:* users at ovirt.org <mailto:users at ovirt.org>
>>
>>
>> On 31/10/2017 13:43, Alexander Wels wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Will the right click dialog be available in the final release?
>>>> Because,
>>>> currently in 4.2 we need to go at the up right corner to
>>>> interact with
>>>> object (migrate, maintenance...)
>>>>
>>> Short answer: No, we removed it on purpose.
>>>
>>> Long answer: No, here are the reasons why:
>>> - We are attempting to get the UI more mobile friendly, and
>>> while its not 100%
>>> there yet, it is actually quite useable on a mobile device now.
>>> Mobile devices
>>> don't have a right click, so hiding functionality in there would
>>> make no
>>> sense.
>> Please don't put mobile usage over Desktop usage. While mobile
>> usage is nice to have in "certain" situations. In real day by day
>> operation nobody uses mobile devices to do their deployments and
>> manage their large environments. If having both options where you
>> can switch between then is nice, but if something should prevail
>> should always be Desktop. We are not talking about a Stock
>> Trading interface or something you need that level or flexibility
>> and mobility to do static things anytime anywhere.
>>
>> So I beg you to consider well before remove things which are
>> pretty useful for a day by day and real management usage because
>> of a new trend or buzz stuff.
>> Right click is always on popular on Desktop enviroments and will
>> be for quite a while.
>>> - You can now right click and get the browsers menu instead of
>>> ours and you
>>> can do things like copy from the menu.
>>> - We replicated all the functionality from the menu in the
>>> buttons/kebab menu
>>> available on the right. Our goal was to have all the commonly
>>> used actions as
>>> a button, and less often used actions in the kebab to declutter
>>> the interface.
>>> We traded an extra click for some mouse travel
>>> - Lots of people didn't realize there even was a right click
>>> menu because its
>>> a web interface, and they couldn't find some functionality that
>>> was only
>>> available in the right click menu.
>>>
>>> Now that being said, we are still debating if it was a good move
>>> or not. For
>>> now we want to see how it plays out, if a lot of people want it
>>> back, it is
>>> certainly possible we will put it back.
>>>
>>>>> that is something you are interested in. Its also much faster
>>>>> and better
>>>>> than before.
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 31/10/2017 10:13, Sandro Bonazzola wrote:
>>>>>>> The oVirt Project is pleased to announce the availability of
>>>>>>> the First
>>>>>>> Beta Release of oVirt 4.2.0, as of October 31st, 2017
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is pre-release software. This pre-release should not to
>>>>>>> be used
>>>>>>> in production.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please take a look at our community page[1] to learn how to ask
>>>>>>> questions and interact with developers and users.All issues
>>>>>>> or bugs
>>>>>>> should be reported via oVirt Bugzilla[2].
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This update is the first beta release of the 4.2.0 version. This
>>>>>>> release brings more than 230 enhancements and more than one
>>>>>>> thousand
>>>>>>> bug fixes, including more than 380 high or urgent severity
>>>>>>> fixes, on
>>>>>>> top of oVirt 4.1 series.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What's new in oVirt 4.2.0?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>> The Administration Portalhas been completely
>>>>>>> redesigned using
>>>>>>> Patternfly, a widely adopted standard in web
>>>>>>> application design.
>>>>>>> It now features a cleaner, more intuitive design, for
>>>>>>> an improved
>>>>>>> user experience.
>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>> There is an all-new VM Portalfor non-admin users.
>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>> A new High Performance virtual machinetype has been
>>>>>>> added to the
>>>>>>> New VM dialog box in the Administration Portal.
>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>> Open Virtual Network (OVN)adds support for Open
>>>>>>> vSwitch software
>>>>>>> defined networking (SDN).
>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>> oVirt now supports Nvidia vGPU.
>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>> The ovirt-ansible-rolespackage helps users with common
>>>>>>> administration tasks.
>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>> Virt-v2vnow supports Debian/Ubuntu based VMs.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For more information about these and other features, check
>>>>>>> out the
>>>>>>> oVirt 4.2.0 blog post
>>>>>>> <https://ovirt.org/blog/2017/09/introducing-ovirt-4.2.0/
>>>>>>> <https://ovirt.org/blog/2017/09/introducing-ovirt-4.2.0/>>.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This release is available now on x86_64 architecture for:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> * Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7.4 or later
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> * CentOS Linux (or similar) 7.4 or later
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This release supports Hypervisor Hosts on x86_64 and ppc64le
>>>>>>> architectures for:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> * Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7.4 or later
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> * CentOS Linux (or similar) 7.4 or later
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> * oVirt Node 4.2 (available for x86_64 only)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> See the release notes draft [3] for installation / upgrade
>>>>>>> instructions and a list of new features and bugs fixed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Notes:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - oVirt Appliance is already available.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - An async release of oVirt Node will follow soon.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Additional Resources:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> * Read more about the oVirt 4.2.0 release highlights:
>>>>>>> http://www.ovirt.org/release/4.2.0/
>>>>>>> <http://www.ovirt.org/release/4.2.0/>
>>>>>>> <http://www.ovirt.org/release/4.2.0/
>>>>>>> <http://www.ovirt.org/release/4.2.0/>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> * Check out the latest project news on the oVirt blog:
>>>>>>> http://www.ovirt.org/blog/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [1] https://www.ovirt.org/community/
>>>>>>> <https://www.ovirt.org/community/>
>>>>>>> <https://www.ovirt.org/community/
>>>>>>> <https://www.ovirt.org/community/>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [2]
>>>>>>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi?classification=oVirt
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>>>>>>> <https://bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi?classification=oVirt
>>>>>>> <https://bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi?classification=oVirt>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [3] http://www.ovirt.org/release/4.2.0/
>>>>>>> <http://www.ovirt.org/release/4.2.0/>
>>>>>>> <http://www.ovirt.org/release/4.2.0/
>>>>>>> <http://www.ovirt.org/release/4.2.0/>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [4] http://resources.ovirt.org/pub/ovirt-4.2-pre/iso/
>>>>>>> <http://resources.ovirt.org/pub/ovirt-4.2-pre/iso/>
>>>>>>> <http://resources.ovirt.org/pub/ovirt-4.2-pre/iso/
>>>>>>> <http://resources.ovirt.org/pub/ovirt-4.2-pre/iso/>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> SANDRO BONAZZOLA
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ASSOCIATE MANAGER, SOFTWARE ENGINEERING, EMEA ENG
>>>>>>> VIRTUALIZATION R&D
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