This vote is to include Nomad into the oVirt incubtaor. Details about the project can be found at http://www.ovirt.org/wiki/Project_Proposal_-_Nomad More information about the incubator at oVirt can be found at http://www.ovirt.org/governance/adding-a-subproject/ In order to be accepted into the incubator, the project needs to be able to articulate its goals, scope and how it relates/integrates with the oVirt project. Nomad has done this. Entering the incubator is the low bar vote, which Nomad in my view clearly gets over. Note that the vote from incubator to full oVirt project (not this vote) is where we look for the demonstration of project criteria. The idea with the incubator is that any project that can articulate how it relates to oVirt should be able to enter the incubator and then work out details while in incubation. Vote open till the 27th. Here is my +1 Carl.
+1 Where can I get a version for my Android? ----- Original Message -----
This vote is to include Nomad into the oVirt incubtaor. Details about the project can be found at http://www.ovirt.org/wiki/Project_Proposal_-_Nomad
More information about the incubator at oVirt can be found at http://www.ovirt.org/governance/adding-a-subproject/
In order to be accepted into the incubator, the project needs to be able to articulate its goals, scope and how it relates/integrates with the oVirt project. Nomad has done this. Entering the incubator is the low bar vote, which Nomad in my view clearly gets over.
Note that the vote from incubator to full oVirt project (not this vote) is where we look for the demonstration of project criteria. The idea with the incubator is that any project that can articulate how it relates to oVirt should be able to enter the incubator and then work out details while in incubation.
Vote open till the 27th.
Here is my +1
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+1 Ayal - when you get it let me know :-) ----- Original Message -----
From: "Ayal Baron" <abaron@redhat.com> To: cctrieloff@redhat.com Cc: board@ovirt.org Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 3:17:14 PM Subject: Re: [VOTE] Include Nomad into the oVirt Incubator
+1 Where can I get a version for my Android?
----- Original Message -----
This vote is to include Nomad into the oVirt incubtaor. Details about the project can be found at http://www.ovirt.org/wiki/Project_Proposal_-_Nomad
More information about the incubator at oVirt can be found at http://www.ovirt.org/governance/adding-a-subproject/
In order to be accepted into the incubator, the project needs to be able to articulate its goals, scope and how it relates/integrates with the oVirt project. Nomad has done this. Entering the incubator is the low bar vote, which Nomad in my view clearly gets over.
Note that the vote from incubator to full oVirt project (not this vote) is where we look for the demonstration of project criteria. The idea with the incubator is that any project that can articulate how it relates to oVirt should be able to enter the incubator and then work out details while in incubation.
Vote open till the 27th.
Here is my +1
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+1 Miki ----- Original Message -----
From: "Carl Trieloff" <cctrieloff@redhat.com> To: board@ovirt.org Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 3:11:54 PM Subject: [VOTE] Include Nomad into the oVirt Incubator
This vote is to include Nomad into the oVirt incubtaor. Details about the project can be found at http://www.ovirt.org/wiki/Project_Proposal_-_Nomad
More information about the incubator at oVirt can be found at http://www.ovirt.org/governance/adding-a-subproject/
In order to be accepted into the incubator, the project needs to be able to articulate its goals, scope and how it relates/integrates with the oVirt project. Nomad has done this. Entering the incubator is the low bar vote, which Nomad in my view clearly gets over.
Note that the vote from incubator to full oVirt project (not this vote) is where we look for the demonstration of project criteria. The idea with the incubator is that any project that can articulate how it relates to oVirt should be able to enter the incubator and then work out details while in incubation.
Vote open till the 27th.
Here is my +1
Carl. _______________________________________________ Board mailing list Board@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/board
+1 On 10/24/11 9:11 AM, "Carl Trieloff" <cctrieloff@redhat.com> wrote:
This vote is to include Nomad into the oVirt incubtaor. Details about the project can be found at http://www.ovirt.org/wiki/Project_Proposal_-_Nomad
More information about the incubator at oVirt can be found at http://www.ovirt.org/governance/adding-a-subproject/
In order to be accepted into the incubator, the project needs to be able to articulate its goals, scope and how it relates/integrates with the oVirt project. Nomad has done this. Entering the incubator is the low bar vote, which Nomad in my view clearly gets over.
Note that the vote from incubator to full oVirt project (not this vote) is where we look for the demonstration of project criteria. The idea with the incubator is that any project that can articulate how it relates to oVirt should be able to enter the incubator and then work out details while in incubation.
Vote open till the 27th.
Here is my +1
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Jon Benedict Technical Marketing Engineer Virtualization & Cloud Blog http://captainkvm.com | Twitter @CaptainKVM NetApp 919.476.5093 Direct 919.757.7789 Mobile Jon.Benedict@netapp.com www.netapp.com
On 10/24/2011 04:34 PM, Benedict, Jon wrote: +1
+1
On 10/24/11 9:11 AM, "Carl Trieloff" <cctrieloff@redhat.com> wrote:
This vote is to include Nomad into the oVirt incubtaor. Details about the project can be found at http://www.ovirt.org/wiki/Project_Proposal_-_Nomad
More information about the incubator at oVirt can be found at http://www.ovirt.org/governance/adding-a-subproject/
In order to be accepted into the incubator, the project needs to be able to articulate its goals, scope and how it relates/integrates with the oVirt project. Nomad has done this. Entering the incubator is the low bar vote, which Nomad in my view clearly gets over.
Note that the vote from incubator to full oVirt project (not this vote) is where we look for the demonstration of project criteria. The idea with the incubator is that any project that can articulate how it relates to oVirt should be able to enter the incubator and then work out details while in incubation.
Vote open till the 27th.
Here is my +1
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Blog http://captainkvm.com | Twitter @CaptainKVM
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On 10/24/2011 09:11 AM, Carl Trieloff wrote:
This vote is to include Nomad into the oVirt incubtaor. Details about the project can be found at http://www.ovirt.org/wiki/Project_Proposal_-_Nomad
+1
On 24/10/11 09:11 -0400, Carl Trieloff wrote:
This vote is to include Nomad into the oVirt incubtaor. Details about the project can be found at http://www.ovirt.org/wiki/Project_Proposal_-_Nomad
Here is my +1
Carl.
Assuming an Apache license? +! Mike -- Mike Day IBM Distinguished Engineer Chief Virtualization Architect, Open Systems Development Cell: 919 371-8786 ncmike@us.ibm.com | http://code.ncultra.org
* Carl Trieloff (cctrieloff@redhat.com) wrote:
This vote is to include Nomad into the oVirt incubtaor. Details about the project can be found at http://www.ovirt.org/wiki/Project_Proposal_-_Nomad
Do we require source and license info? The application is missing both of those. thanks, -chris
On 10/24/2011 01:47 PM, Chris Wright wrote:
* Carl Trieloff (cctrieloff@redhat.com) wrote:
This vote is to include Nomad into the oVirt incubtaor. Details about the project can be found at http://www.ovirt.org/wiki/Project_Proposal_-_Nomad
Do we require source and license info? The application is missing both of those.
We don't require source so that a company can get a vote before making the source public if they are going to open source it to oVirt incubator. However we should include license in the doc. Issac, Can you add that. I assume ASL2.0 Carl.
ASL 2 is correct and aligns well to our other dependent components. I will add it to the page later today after my marathon meetings. My intent is to have the code in our github report in time for next week's workshop. Isaac -- Isaac Christoffersen Sr. Software Engineer, Vizuri web :: www.vizuri.com mobile :: 703.980.2836 On 10/24/11 2:05 PM, Carl Trieloff wrote:
* Carl Trieloff (cctrieloff@redhat.com) wrote:
This vote is to include Nomad into the oVirt incubtaor. Details about the project can be found at http://www.ovirt.org/wiki/Project_Proposal_-_Nomad Do we require source and license info? The application is missing both of those. We don't require source so that a company can get a vote before making
On 10/24/2011 01:47 PM, Chris Wright wrote: the source public if they are going to open source it to oVirt incubator.
However we should include license in the doc.
Issac,
Can you add that. I assume ASL2.0
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* Carl Trieloff (cctrieloff@redhat.com) wrote:
This vote is to include Nomad into the oVirt incubtaor. Details about the project can be found at http://www.ovirt.org/wiki/Project_Proposal_-_Nomad
+1 (ASL 2 update forthcoming)
+1 Livnat On 10/24/2011 03:11 PM, Carl Trieloff wrote:
This vote is to include Nomad into the oVirt incubtaor. Details about the project can be found at http://www.ovirt.org/wiki/Project_Proposal_-_Nomad
More information about the incubator at oVirt can be found at http://www.ovirt.org/governance/adding-a-subproject/
In order to be accepted into the incubator, the project needs to be able to articulate its goals, scope and how it relates/integrates with the oVirt project. Nomad has done this. Entering the incubator is the low bar vote, which Nomad in my view clearly gets over.
Note that the vote from incubator to full oVirt project (not this vote) is where we look for the demonstration of project criteria. The idea with the incubator is that any project that can articulate how it relates to oVirt should be able to enter the incubator and then work out details while in incubation.
Vote open till the 27th.
Here is my +1
Carl. _______________________________________________ Board mailing list Board@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/board
* Carl Trieloff <cctrieloff@redhat.com> [2011-10-24 08:13]:
This vote is to include Nomad into the oVirt incubtaor. Details about the project can be found at http://www.ovirt.org/wiki/Project_Proposal_-_Nomad
More information about the incubator at oVirt can be found at http://www.ovirt.org/governance/adding-a-subproject/
In order to be accepted into the incubator, the project needs to be able to articulate its goals, scope and how it relates/integrates with the oVirt project. Nomad has done this. Entering the incubator is the low bar vote, which Nomad in my view clearly gets over.
Note that the vote from incubator to full oVirt project (not this vote) is where we look for the demonstration of project criteria. The idea with the incubator is that any project that can articulate how it relates to oVirt should be able to enter the incubator and then work out details while in incubation.
Vote open till the 27th.
+1 -- Ryan Harper Software Engineer; Linux Technology Center IBM Corp., Austin, Tx ryanh@us.ibm.com
+1 On Oct 26, 2011, at 9:37 PM, Ryan Harper wrote:
* Carl Trieloff <cctrieloff@redhat.com> [2011-10-24 08:13]:
This vote is to include Nomad into the oVirt incubtaor. Details about the project can be found at http://www.ovirt.org/wiki/Project_Proposal_-_Nomad
More information about the incubator at oVirt can be found at http://www.ovirt.org/governance/adding-a-subproject/
In order to be accepted into the incubator, the project needs to be able to articulate its goals, scope and how it relates/integrates with the oVirt project. Nomad has done this. Entering the incubator is the low bar vote, which Nomad in my view clearly gets over.
Note that the vote from incubator to full oVirt project (not this vote) is where we look for the demonstration of project criteria. The idea with the incubator is that any project that can articulate how it relates to oVirt should be able to enter the incubator and then work out details while in incubation.
Vote open till the 27th.
+1
-- Ryan Harper Software Engineer; Linux Technology Center IBM Corp., Austin, Tx ryanh@us.ibm.com
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sorry i am late to this, but workshop preparations took their toll this week. unlike rhev-m 2.2 which required a windows client, ovirt has a full web admin based on GWT (which should work on tablets as well) I do see a place for a UI designed more for smartphones. I am not sure if technology (and effort) wise it will be better to develop it separately over the REST API, or improve the ovirt web admin and user portal to render/look better for smaller screens. I want to be clear i am not against Nomad, but i recommend Nomad to review the web admin and user portal ovirt has to see if a "smartphone/tablet" mode for it wouldn't be much easier to do. for example, the user portal and web admin share the same "UI Common" logic code for the parts shared for them. maybe creating another view layer on top of the same UI logic (rather than on the REST API) would make more sense. I'd also check if tablets are still an issue with the web admin - apart from maybe adjusting to a little bit lower resolution, it should work as is. I think understanding if/how the flows and look and feel are different for this use case would be important to understand this. would love to see some discussion on this next week. Thanks, Itamar On 10/24/2011 03:11 PM, Carl Trieloff wrote:
This vote is to include Nomad into the oVirt incubtaor. Details about the project can be found at http://www.ovirt.org/wiki/Project_Proposal_-_Nomad
More information about the incubator at oVirt can be found at http://www.ovirt.org/governance/adding-a-subproject/
In order to be accepted into the incubator, the project needs to be able to articulate its goals, scope and how it relates/integrates with the oVirt project. Nomad has done this. Entering the incubator is the low bar vote, which Nomad in my view clearly gets over.
Note that the vote from incubator to full oVirt project (not this vote) is where we look for the demonstration of project criteria. The idea with the incubator is that any project that can articulate how it relates to oVirt should be able to enter the incubator and then work out details while in incubation.
Vote open till the 27th.
Here is my +1
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Itamar, I'm actually looking forward to the portal and web admin next week. I'm certain there will be some convergence/reusability there and it would be helpful to see the different use cases at hand. I'm also looking at ways to ensure As a background, we used the RHEVM-API because of it provides us the ability to do pretty much anything that the IE-Only GUI did. And with fewer clicks ;-) Before that, my alternative was to fire up my Remote Desktop application on my Xoom and pull back the windows environment - not very android wifi friendly. I think there are 2 design goals that are relevant here: 1) One codebase to generate a mobile application for both iOS and Android. 2) Cache the immutable attributes for resources (GUIDs, in particular) to the number of remote calls. This does not preclude someone from flipping to the full browser on the mobile device, but it can provide some quick admin functionality, especially in when there is a poor network connection. Isaac On 10/27/11 2:10 PM, Itamar Heim wrote:
sorry i am late to this, but workshop preparations took their toll this week.
unlike rhev-m 2.2 which required a windows client, ovirt has a full web admin based on GWT (which should work on tablets as well)
I do see a place for a UI designed more for smartphones. I am not sure if technology (and effort) wise it will be better to develop it separately over the REST API, or improve the ovirt web admin and user portal to render/look better for smaller screens.
I want to be clear i am not against Nomad, but i recommend Nomad to review the web admin and user portal ovirt has to see if a "smartphone/tablet" mode for it wouldn't be much easier to do.
for example, the user portal and web admin share the same "UI Common" logic code for the parts shared for them.
maybe creating another view layer on top of the same UI logic (rather than on the REST API) would make more sense.
I'd also check if tablets are still an issue with the web admin - apart from maybe adjusting to a little bit lower resolution, it should work as is.
I think understanding if/how the flows and look and feel are different for this use case would be important to understand this.
would love to see some discussion on this next week.
Thanks, Itamar
On 10/24/2011 03:11 PM, Carl Trieloff wrote:
This vote is to include Nomad into the oVirt incubtaor. Details about the project can be found at http://www.ovirt.org/wiki/Project_Proposal_-_Nomad
More information about the incubator at oVirt can be found at http://www.ovirt.org/governance/adding-a-subproject/
In order to be accepted into the incubator, the project needs to be able to articulate its goals, scope and how it relates/integrates with the oVirt project. Nomad has done this. Entering the incubator is the low bar vote, which Nomad in my view clearly gets over.
Note that the vote from incubator to full oVirt project (not this vote) is where we look for the demonstration of project criteria. The idea with the incubator is that any project that can articulate how it relates to oVirt should be able to enter the incubator and then work out details while in incubation.
Vote open till the 27th.
Here is my +1
Carl. _______________________________________________ Board mailing list Board@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/board
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On 10/27/2011 09:09 PM, Isaac Christoffersen wrote:
Itamar,
I'm actually looking forward to the portal and web admin next week. I'm certain there will be some convergence/reusability there and it would be helpful to see the different use cases at hand. I'm also looking at ways to ensure
As a background, we used the RHEVM-API because of it provides us the ability to do pretty much anything that the IE-Only GUI did. And with fewer clicks ;-) Before that, my alternative was to fire up my Remote Desktop application on my Xoom and pull back the windows environment - not very android wifi friendly.
I think there are 2 design goals that are relevant here:
1) One codebase to generate a mobile application for both iOS and Android. 2) Cache the immutable attributes for resources (GUIDs, in particular) to the number of remote calls.
This does not preclude someone from flipping to the full browser on the mobile device, but it can provide some quick admin functionality, especially in when there is a poor network connection.
I agree. smartphones are different (using browser on them is last resort for me) not so sure about tablets, but will be happy to learn something new. looking forward to discussing what's common/what's not next week to see how to push this forward. Thanks, Itamar
Isaac
On 10/27/2011 10:16 PM, Itamar Heim wrote:
On 10/27/2011 09:09 PM, Isaac Christoffersen wrote:
Itamar,
I'm actually looking forward to the portal and web admin next week. I'm certain there will be some convergence/reusability there and it would be helpful to see the different use cases at hand. I'm also looking at ways to ensure
As a background, we used the RHEVM-API because of it provides us the ability to do pretty much anything that the IE-Only GUI did. And with fewer clicks ;-) Before that, my alternative was to fire up my Remote Desktop application on my Xoom and pull back the windows environment - not very android wifi friendly.
I think there are 2 design goals that are relevant here:
1) One codebase to generate a mobile application for both iOS and Android. 2) Cache the immutable attributes for resources (GUIDs, in particular) to the number of remote calls.
This does not preclude someone from flipping to the full browser on the mobile device, but it can provide some quick admin functionality, especially in when there is a poor network connection.
I agree. smartphones are different (using browser on them is last resort for me) not so sure about tablets, but will be happy to learn something new. looking forward to discussing what's common/what's not next week to see how to push this forward.
About tablets - Just bought an 8'' android device (Archos 9G 80) , and I also have an android phone (Samsung Galaxy S II). Of course using the browser on the tablet is more convenient , but I can tell you for example I prefer to use the youtube, gmail and gtalk applications and not their web sites (although they are more usable than they are on my phone, of course). Yair
Thanks, Itamar
Isaac
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Ryan Harper -
Yair Zaslavsky