From: "Ayal Baron" <abaron(a)redhat.com&gt; To: cctrieloff(a)redhat.com Cc: board(a)ovirt.org Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 3:17:14 PM Subject: Re: [VOTE] Include Nomad into the oVirt Incubator +1 Where can I get a version for my Android? ----- Original Message ----- > > This vote is to include Nomad into the oVirt incubtaor. Details > about > the project can be found at > http://www.ovirt.org/wiki/Project_Proposal_-_Nomad > > More information about the incubator at oVirt can be found at > http://www.ovirt.org/governance/adding-a-subproject/ > > In order to be accepted into the incubator, the project needs to be > able > to articulate its goals, scope and how it relates/integrates with > the > oVirt project. Nomad has done this. Entering the incubator is the > low > bar vote, which Nomad in my view clearly gets over. > > Note that the vote from incubator to full oVirt project (not this > vote) > is where we look for the demonstration of project criteria. The > idea > with the incubator is that any project that can articulate how it > relates to oVirt should be able to enter the incubator and then > work > out > details while in incubation. > > Vote open till the 27th. > > Here is my +1 > > Carl. > _______________________________________________ > Board mailing list > Board(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/board > _______________________________________________ Board mailing list Board(a)ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/board

This vote is to include Nomad into the oVirt incubtaor. Details about the project can be found at http://www.ovirt.org/wiki/Project_Proposal_-_Nomad More information about the incubator at oVirt can be found at http://www.ovirt.org/governance/adding-a-subproject/ In order to be accepted into the incubator, the project needs to be able to articulate its goals, scope and how it relates/integrates with the oVirt project. Nomad has done this. Entering the incubator is the low bar vote, which Nomad in my view clearly gets over. Note that the vote from incubator to full oVirt project (not this vote) is where we look for the demonstration of project criteria. The idea with the incubator is that any project that can articulate how it relates to oVirt should be able to enter the incubator and then work out details while in incubation. Vote open till the 27th. Here is my +1 Carl. _______________________________________________ Board mailing list Board(a)ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/board

This vote is to include Nomad into the oVirt incubtaor. Details about the project can be found at http://www.ovirt.org/wiki/Project_Proposal_-_Nomad

This vote is to include Nomad into the oVirt incubtaor. Details about the project can be found at http://www.ovirt.org/wiki/Project_Proposal_-_Nomad

On 10/24/2011 01:47 PM, Chris Wright wrote: > * Carl Trieloff (cctrieloff(a)redhat.com) wrote: >>> This vote is to include Nomad into the oVirt incubtaor. Details about >>> the project can be found at >>> http://www.ovirt.org/wiki/Project_Proposal_-_Nomad > Do we require source and license info? The application is missing > both of those. We don't require source so that a company can get a vote before making the source public if they are going to open source it to oVirt incubator. However we should include license in the doc. Issac, Can you add that. I assume ASL2.0 Carl. _______________________________________________ Board mailing list Board(a)ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/board

This vote is to include Nomad into the oVirt incubtaor. Details about the project can be found at http://www.ovirt.org/wiki/Project_Proposal_-_Nomad More information about the incubator at oVirt can be found at http://www.ovirt.org/governance/adding-a-subproject/ In order to be accepted into the incubator, the project needs to be able to articulate its goals, scope and how it relates/integrates with the oVirt project. Nomad has done this. Entering the incubator is the low bar vote, which Nomad in my view clearly gets over. Note that the vote from incubator to full oVirt project (not this vote) is where we look for the demonstration of project criteria. The idea with the incubator is that any project that can articulate how it relates to oVirt should be able to enter the incubator and then work out details while in incubation. Vote open till the 27th. Here is my +1 Carl. _______________________________________________ Board mailing list Board(a)ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/board

* Carl Trieloff <cctrieloff(a)redhat.com&gt; [2011-10-24 08:13]: > > This vote is to include Nomad into the oVirt incubtaor. Details about > the project can be found at > http://www.ovirt.org/wiki/Project_Proposal_-_Nomad > > More information about the incubator at oVirt can be found at > http://www.ovirt.org/governance/adding-a-subproject/ > > In order to be accepted into the incubator, the project needs to be able > to articulate its goals, scope and how it relates/integrates with the > oVirt project. Nomad has done this. Entering the incubator is the low > bar vote, which Nomad in my view clearly gets over. > > Note that the vote from incubator to full oVirt project (not this vote) > is where we look for the demonstration of project criteria. The idea > with the incubator is that any project that can articulate how it > relates to oVirt should be able to enter the incubator and then work out > details while in incubation. > > Vote open till the 27th. +1 -- Ryan Harper Software Engineer; Linux Technology Center IBM Corp., Austin, Tx ryanh(a)us.ibm.com _______________________________________________ Board mailing list Board(a)ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/board

sorry i am late to this, but workshop preparations took their toll this week. unlike rhev-m 2.2 which required a windows client, ovirt has a full web admin based on GWT (which should work on tablets as well) I do see a place for a UI designed more for smartphones. I am not sure if technology (and effort) wise it will be better to develop it separately over the REST API, or improve the ovirt web admin and user portal to render/look better for smaller screens. I want to be clear i am not against Nomad, but i recommend Nomad to review the web admin and user portal ovirt has to see if a "smartphone/tablet" mode for it wouldn't be much easier to do. for example, the user portal and web admin share the same "UI Common" logic code for the parts shared for them. maybe creating another view layer on top of the same UI logic (rather than on the REST API) would make more sense. I'd also check if tablets are still an issue with the web admin - apart from maybe adjusting to a little bit lower resolution, it should work as is. I think understanding if/how the flows and look and feel are different for this use case would be important to understand this. would love to see some discussion on this next week. Thanks, Itamar On 10/24/2011 03:11 PM, Carl Trieloff wrote: > This vote is to include Nomad into the oVirt incubtaor. Details about > the project can be found at > http://www.ovirt.org/wiki/Project_Proposal_-_Nomad > > More information about the incubator at oVirt can be found at > http://www.ovirt.org/governance/adding-a-subproject/ > > In order to be accepted into the incubator, the project needs to be able > to articulate its goals, scope and how it relates/integrates with the > oVirt project. Nomad has done this. Entering the incubator is the low > bar vote, which Nomad in my view clearly gets over. > > Note that the vote from incubator to full oVirt project (not this vote) > is where we look for the demonstration of project criteria. The idea > with the incubator is that any project that can articulate how it > relates to oVirt should be able to enter the incubator and then work out > details while in incubation. > > Vote open till the 27th. > > Here is my +1 > > Carl. > _______________________________________________ > Board mailing list > Board(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/board _______________________________________________ Board mailing list Board(a)ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/board

On 10/27/2011 09:09 PM, Isaac Christoffersen wrote: > Itamar, > > I'm actually looking forward to the portal and web admin next week. I'm > certain there will be some convergence/reusability there and it would be > helpful to see the different use cases at hand. I'm also looking at ways > to ensure > > As a background, we used the RHEVM-API because of it provides us the > ability to do pretty much anything that the IE-Only GUI did. And with > fewer clicks ;-) Before that, my alternative was to fire up my Remote > Desktop application on my Xoom and pull back the windows environment - > not very android wifi friendly. > > I think there are 2 design goals that are relevant here: > > 1) One codebase to generate a mobile application for both iOS and > Android. > 2) Cache the immutable attributes for resources (GUIDs, in > particular) to the number of remote calls. > > This does not preclude someone from flipping to the full browser on the > mobile device, but it can provide some quick admin functionality, > especially in when there is a poor network connection. I agree. smartphones are different (using browser on them is last resort for me) not so sure about tablets, but will be happy to learn something new. looking forward to discussing what's common/what's not next week to see how to push this forward.

Thanks, Itamar > > Isaac > _______________________________________________ Board mailing list Board(a)ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/board