
Hi, Is oVirt Foundation (or will it be) an independent corporation with a 501(c)3 status? If so, will the foundation accept sub-project targeted donations? Will the foundation provide legal services for projects? I'm trying to understands the pros and cons of being a member project to help make a case for joining. Even if this isn't in place today or in the near future, if that's where things are heading, it would be useful to know. Regards, Anthony Liguori

Right now we will not setup a foundation, however the goal as a community is to provide support for subprojects, help direct marketing etc. We can pretty much provide all the value for sub-projects without a foundation. If we get to the point we believe we need a foundation to better develop the ece-system we can create one, however based on past experience I don't think we will need one. Carl. On 09/26/2011 03:59 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
Hi,
Is oVirt Foundation (or will it be) an independent corporation with a 501(c)3 status?
If so, will the foundation accept sub-project targeted donations? Will the foundation provide legal services for projects?
I'm trying to understands the pros and cons of being a member project to help make a case for joining. Even if this isn't in place today or in the near future, if that's where things are heading, it would be useful to know.
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
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On 09/26/2011 03:27 PM, Carl Trieloff wrote:
Right now we will not setup a foundation, however the goal as a community is to provide support for subprojects, help direct marketing etc.
We can pretty much provide all the value for sub-projects without a foundation. If we get to the point we believe we need a foundation to better develop the ece-system we can create one, however based on past experience I don't think we will need one.
Can you elaborate on that? We're actually feeling pains from not having a foundation with QEMU. US tax law is complex and unforgiving so when it comes to thinks like accepting donations, a foundation is really needed. A concrete example is something like Google Summer of Code. As part of the program, Google pays each organization a small stipend which requires the organization to generate a purchase order. So you need some organization that can generate the PO, and then can also cover travel/pay out stipends. If any oVirt project decides to participate in GSoC, this will come up. There are similar problems in accepting donations from other organizations and/or trying to sponsor travel. Both Apache and Eclipse are 501(c)3 and 501(c)6 foundations respectively. Almost every other foundation has some sort of non-profit status too[1]. [1] http://flossfoundations.org/foundation-directory Regards, Anthony Liguori
Carl.
On 09/26/2011 03:59 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
Hi,
Is oVirt Foundation (or will it be) an independent corporation with a 501(c)3 status?
If so, will the foundation accept sub-project targeted donations? Will the foundation provide legal services for projects?
I'm trying to understands the pros and cons of being a member project to help make a case for joining. Even if this isn't in place today or in the near future, if that's where things are heading, it would be useful to know.
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
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On 09/26/2011 05:00 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
On 09/26/2011 03:27 PM, Carl Trieloff wrote:
Right now we will not setup a foundation, however the goal as a community is to provide support for subprojects, help direct marketing etc.
We can pretty much provide all the value for sub-projects without a foundation. If we get to the point we believe we need a foundation to better develop the ece-system we can create one, however based on past experience I don't think we will need one.
Can you elaborate on that?
We're actually feeling pains from not having a foundation with QEMU. US tax law is complex and unforgiving so when it comes to thinks like accepting donations, a foundation is really needed.
A concrete example is something like Google Summer of Code. As part of the program, Google pays each organization a small stipend which requires the organization to generate a purchase order. So you need some organization that can generate the PO, and then can also cover travel/pay out stipends.
If any oVirt project decides to participate in GSoC, this will come up. There are similar problems in accepting donations from other organizations and/or trying to sponsor travel.
Both Apache and Eclipse are 501(c)3 and 501(c)6 foundations respectively. Almost every other foundation has some sort of non-profit status too[1].
[1] http://flossfoundations.org/foundation-directory
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
With another another project 'AMQP' I worked on we would allow one of the founding members to deal with the arrangements for each event/ costs, donations etc and we would apply them directly, and then just circulate. This worked fine for years. That said, they are not setting up a foundation, and I don't have an issue with us getting to that with oVirt. However I don't want to get bogged down in our progress around the project in doing so. With GSoC, I believe they allow a member of the group to manage the stipend for the project, or last time I helped on the program they did. I would suggest we get launched and then make this a topic we evaluate as we progress. Carl.

On 09/26/2011 04:18 PM, Carl Trieloff wrote:
With another another project 'AMQP' I worked on we would allow one of the founding members to deal with the arrangements for each event/ costs, donations etc and we would apply them directly, and then just circulate. This worked fine for years. That said, they are not setting up a foundation, and I don't have an issue with us getting to that with oVirt. However I don't want to get bogged down in our progress around the project in doing so.
With GSoC, I believe they allow a member of the group to manage the stipend for the project, or last time I helped on the program they did.
I would suggest we get launched and then make this a topic we evaluate as we progress.
That's fair. Regards, Anthony Liguori
Carl.
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