----- Original Message -----
From: "Piotr Kliczewski" <pkliczew(a)redhat.com>
To: "Martin Betak" <mbetak(a)redhat.com>
Cc: "engine-devel(a)ovirt.org" <devel(a)ovirt.org>, "Vojtech Szocs"
<vszocs(a)redhat.com>, "Einav Cohen"
<ecohen(a)redhat.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 1, 2015 6:34:02 PM
Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] Doctor Rest PostgreSQL report
On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 5:21 PM, Martin Betak <mbetak(a)redhat.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Piotr Kliczewski" <pkliczew(a)redhat.com>
> > To: "Martin Betak" <mbetak(a)redhat.com>
> > Cc: "engine-devel(a)ovirt.org" <devel(a)ovirt.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, October 1, 2015 5:08:39 PM
> > Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] Doctor Rest PostgreSQL report
> >
> > Martin,
> >
> > Looking at the stats you generated I can see that there is almost no
> > difference for cpu and memory. Load seems to be at the same level for
> both.
> > I tried to understand the differences by looking and # of calls and total
> > time (top 10) but there was almost no difference. The only slight
> difference
> > I can see is in avg time. It seems that we haven't generate enough load
> to
> > see significant improvement. How many client have you used during
> testing?
>
> This benchmark was without any clients. This was just to demonstrate the
> load
> Doctor generates on DB in context of existing DB load by backend (mosty
> VM/Host
> monitoring), which was I believe one of Barak's major concerns: how
> expensive it
> is when we *don't* have thousands of connected users.
>
>
I am not sure what we are testing here. I can see a lot of queries which
were generated
by host monitoring. You said that you had around 200+ hosts and you run
full dump for
doctor every 5 seconds. Next you moved to 1 second intervals.
I seems that host monitoring generated enough load to hide any impact of
doctor rest
queries.
Yes, this is exactly what we wanted to estimate. Whether even the most naive
implementation of Doctor connector imposes some significant impact on the overall system.
Essentially, how much do we have to pay to get all the benefits of Doctor Rest.
As you say, from these measurements it would seem that the price is negligible.
Martin
> >
> > I am not sure how much it would take but what do you think about using
> > doctor as caching service for the engine and run few tests.
> > I wonder what would be the result of such PoC.
>
> I would like to move to more real world tests as soon as we have at least
> some working prototype of next gen UI (most significantly the new
> Dashboard).
>
> I understand that the UI discussions (adding Vojtech to CC) have progressed
> recently so as soon as we have some actual frontend code to work with I
> would
> like to hook it up to Doctor and make some end-to-end measurements.
>
> Martin
>
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Piotr
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 3:25 PM, Martin Betak <mbetak(a)redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi All,
> > >
> > > so I installed a few more plugins to the pgCluu and PostgreSQL itself.
> > > Now I have also the overall system load and total numbers for specific
> > > queries.
> > >
> > > If you look at the report, database 'engine' and 'Statement
statistics'
> > > we can clearly see that the overwhelming majority of DB time is spent
> in
> > > GetVmsRunningOnVds() stored procedure.
> > >
> > > Turining on Doctor Rest with 5 second full-dump interval you can see
> > > that the calls used by DoctorCacheManager (GetAllFromVms,
> > > GetAllFromVds....)
> > > have hard time to add up to at least 1% of the overall load.
> > >
> > > Also you can see the 'System': CPU and memory statistics that
those are
> > > largely
> > > unaffected by running Doctor service alongside engine.
> > >
> > > I also tried setting the full update interval to Doctor to 1 second to
> see
> > > how
> > > this would go - so essentially each second do a full dump of business
> > > entities -
> > > and this moved the overall Doctor overhead to ~2.5% of total DB load.
> > >
> > > Of course for the UI purposes interval in the range of 3-5 seconds
> should
> > > be more
> > > than acceptable in my opinion.
> > >
> > > As always - questions and remarks are more than welcome :-)
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > >
> > > Martin
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Martin Betak" <mbetak(a)redhat.com>
> > > > To: "Piotr Kliczewski" <pkliczew(a)redhat.com>
> > > > Cc: "engine-devel(a)ovirt.org" <devel(a)ovirt.org>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2015 4:52:12 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] Doctor Rest PostgreSQL report
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Piotr Kliczewski" <pkliczew(a)redhat.com>
> > > > > To: "Martin Betak" <mbetak(a)redhat.com>
> > > > > Cc: "engine-devel(a)ovirt.org" <devel(a)ovirt.org>,
"Eli Mesika"
> > > > > <emesika(a)redhat.com>, "Martin Perina"
> > > > > <mperina(a)redhat.com>
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2015 3:29:28 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: Doctor Rest PostgreSQL report
> > > > >
> > > > > Martin,
> > > > >
> > > > > For me it would be great to understand how cpu, memory changes
over
> > > time
> > > > > for the engine. I would like to see the same for doctor
service.
> > > > > I was not able to find it but it would be great to understand
how
> many
> > > > > queries there were for both tests and how log it took to run
them.
> > > >
> > > > Yes, right now I'm looking for other tools to provide me exactly
with
> > > that.
> > > > I just wanted to share the preliminary aggregated statistics.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > It would be good to understand implications of running doctor
on
> the
> > > same
> > > > > machine as engine and on other machine.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Indeed, this is precisely what I'm testing. The attached reports
were
> > > with
> > > > Doctor running on the same machine as the engine.
> > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Piotr
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 3:13 PM, Martin Betak
<mbetak(a)redhat.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi All,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I performed a stress test using FakeVDSM environment with
200+
> hosts
> > > > > > and 500+ VMs.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Attached are generated HTML reports for this environment.
> > > > > > In both cases I tried to simulate some random load using
existing
> > > > > > webadmin. In the '_doctor' case the simple
connector from [1] was
> > > > > > running *in addition to* the legacy UI.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The used pgCluu tool [2] which may be useful
> > > > > > for DB experts for some further insight.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I wanted to send this out as soon as possible so we can
better
> > > analyze
> > > > > > our current performance and the possible impact Doctor
Rest
> > > > > > integration would have on the system.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Please feel free to review the attached reports and/or
suggest
> other
> > > > > > ways/tools how to better benchmark the DB load caused by
Doctor
> Rest.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thank you very much.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Best regards
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Martin
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [1]
https://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/45233/
> > > > > > [2]
http://pgcluu.darold.net/
> > > > >
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