From: "Sahina Bose" <sabose(a)redhat.com>
To: "Itamar Heim" <iheim(a)redhat.com>
Cc: "engine-devel" <engine-devel(a)ovirt.org>, arch(a)ovirt.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 2:19:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Engine-devel] Gluster Volume asynchronous tasks
On 08/21/2013 03:54 PM, Itamar Heim wrote:
> On 08/21/2013 12:46 AM, Sahina Bose wrote:
>>
>> On 08/20/2013 04:00 AM, Itamar Heim wrote:
>>> On 08/12/2013 06:09 AM, Sahina Bose wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 08/12/2013 03:28 PM, Yair Zaslavsky wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Sahina Bose" <sabose(a)redhat.com>
>>>>>> To: "Eli Mesika" <emesika(a)redhat.com>
>>>>>> Cc: "engine-devel" <engine-devel(a)ovirt.org>,
arch(a)ovirt.org
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 11:51:15 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Engine-devel] Gluster Volume asynchronous tasks
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 08/12/2013 01:21 PM, Eli Mesika wrote:
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>> From: "Sahina Bose" <sabose(a)redhat.com>
>>>>>>>> To: "engine-devel"
<engine-devel(a)ovirt.org>, arch(a)ovirt.org,
>>>>>>>> "Michael
>>>>>>>> Pasternak" <mpastern(a)redhat.com>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 8:41:55 AM
>>>>>>>> Subject: [Engine-devel] Gluster Volume asynchronous
tasks
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We are working on a feature to add support to start and
monitor
>>>>>>>> gluster
>>>>>>>> volume asynchronous tasks (like rebalancing a gluster
volume,
>>>>>>>> removing
>>>>>>>> brick from volume ) from the oVirt engine.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The operations can be started from the Volumes tab or
the Bricks
>>>>>>>> sub-tab
>>>>>>>> using the Rebalance, Remove options.
>>>>>>>> These are long running operations which can be monitored
using a
>>>>>>>> task id
>>>>>>>> returned from Gluster. We are planning to add the
monitoring in
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> existing Task sub tab
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The feature description and User flows are at
>>>>>>>>
http://www.ovirt.org/Features/Gluster_Volume_Asynchronous_Tasks_Management
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The detailed design (including REST API design) is at
>>>>>>>>
http://www.ovirt.org/Features/Detailed_Gluster_Volume_Asynchronous_Tasks_....
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I would really appreciate if you could review and
provide your
>>>>>>>> valuable
>>>>>>>> feedback.
>>>>>>> I Sahina
>>>>>>> Why not using 6the External Tasks feature introduced for 3.3
for
>>>>>>> those
>>>>>>> Gluster tasks ???
>>>>>>>
http://www.ovirt.org/Features/Design/DetailedExternalTasks
>>>>>> Hi Eli,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We still want to be able to start and stop these operations from
the
>>>>>> engine.
>>>>>> So, when a user wants to say, rebalance a volume, they would go
>>>>>> select
>>>>>> the volume and click on Rebalance Start.
>>>>>> This would then call the BLL command to start rebalance which
will
>>>>>> invoke the corresponding vdsm verb to start the rebalance on
the
>>>>>> volume.
>>>>>> This is the same as existing flow for other commands. The only
>>>>>> difference is the vdsm verb will return the task id from
gluster,
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> the rebalance operation that was started. And we will monitor
the
>>>>>> progress of the task using the gluster task id (by calling a
gluster
>>>>>> command)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not sure how ExternalTasks would fit in here? I was
thinking of
>>>>>> using ExternalTask support for adding Job/Steps to engine when
the
>>>>>> operation is started outside of engine, that is, from Gluster
CLI.
>>>>>> Please correct me if I'm missing something.
>>>>> Does this mean that from Gluster CLI you will not try and invoke
the
>>>>> rebalance command ?
>>>>> (I mean, I should either use Gluster CLI or Engine's REST API?)
>>>> Rebalance volume command could be invoked in any of the following
>>>> ways:
>>>> 1. From the console UI (clicking on Rebalance as shown in
>>>>
http://www.ovirt.org/Features/Gluster_Volume_Asynchronous_Tasks_Managemen...)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2. Using REST API
>>>> 3. Outside of engine, from Gluster CLI - In such cases, the engine
>>>> should detect that a user has triggered rebalance operation outside
>>>> the
>>>> engine, and allow the user to monitor progress of this from the
>>>> engine.
>>>> This is where, we need support to add a Job for an operation that was
>>>> started externally, so that it can be seen in the Tasks tab.
>>>
>>> and still, it should be considered an internal task, since the engine
>>> is managing it / detected it.
>>>
>>
>> Itamar, yes, you are right. This would need to be treated as an internal
>> task as the engine needs to be able to stop it and also monitor it. We
>> would probably need a similar mechanism as external task injection, to
>> add a Job for the task started from gluster CLI.
>>
>>
>
> even if it was started from CLI, wouldn't it be better if engine
> detected it, and still treated it as an internal task, allowing to
> cancel it, etc.?
Yes, but I need to add a Job for this internal task, so that it can be
monitored in the Tasks pane. Any idea if I can use any existing
framework to do it? I was thinking I would use
ExecutionHandler.createJob to do this (similar to what's done in
AddExternalJobCommand)
Maybe in order to avoid code duplication we should re-factor having a base AddJobCommand
and two descendants AddExternalJobCommand and AddInternalJobCommand when the only diff
between those is the external flag value while the execute method of both calls super at
first and the ancestor has the original code of ddExternalJobCommand in its execute
method...
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