From: "Yair Zaslavsky" <yzaslavs(a)redhat.com>
To: "Eli Mesika" <emesika(a)redhat.com>
Cc: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl(a)redhat.com>, "engine-devel"
<engine-devel(a)ovirt.org>, "arch" <arch(a)ovirt.org>
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 5:39:19 AM
Subject: Re: [Engine-devel] [ANN] New development environment for ovirt-engine
Alon,
I have FC17, and followed the steps at the wiki , i defined the ovirt nightly
repo
[ovirt-nightly]
name=ovirt-nightly
baseurl=http://resources.ovirt.org/releases/nightly/rpm/Fedora/17/
enabled=1
gpgcheck=0
priority=1
protect=1
And performed yum install according to your guidelines.
It fails to find python-m2crypto
Can you please advise on the matter?
Many thanks,
Yair
----- Original Message -----
> From: "Eli Mesika" <emesika(a)redhat.com>
> To: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl(a)redhat.com>
> Cc: "engine-devel" <engine-devel(a)ovirt.org>, "arch"
<arch(a)ovirt.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 3:45:41 AM
> Subject: Re: [Engine-devel] [ANN] New development environment for
> ovirt-engine
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl(a)redhat.com>
> > To: "engine-devel" <engine-devel(a)ovirt.org>
> > Cc: "arch" <arch(a)ovirt.org>, "Sharad Mishra"
<snmishra(a)us.ibm.com>,
> > "Limor
> > Gavish" <lgavish(a)gmail.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 2:52:51 PM
> > Subject: [Engine-devel] [ANN] New development environment for
> > ovirt-engine
> >
> > Hello all ovirt-engine developers,
> >
> > When I first joined the ovirt project, it took me about two weeks to
> > setup
> > a
> > development environment, I needed to work on a bug related to host-deploy
> > so
> > I needed an environment that could use the ssh, PKI, vdsm-bootstrap and
> > communicate with vdsm using SSL, this was virtually impossible to do so
> > without tweaking the product in a way that it is so different from
> > production use, that I cannot guarantee that whatever tested in
> > development
> > will actually work in production.
> >
> > I peeked at the installation script in a hope that I can create partial
> > environment similar to production, but I found that the packaging
> > implementation makes to much assumption and is very difficult to adopt.
> > The
> > fact that I do not use fedora/rhel for my development made it even worse.
> >
> > I had no other option than to create rpms after each of my changes and
> > test
> > each in real production like setup.
> >
> > It was obvious to me that the manual customization of developers to
> > achieve
> > working product will eventually break as product grow and move away from
> > being developer friendly to production friendly. For example, product
> > defaults cannot be these which serve developers, but these which serve
> > production the best, or having a valid PKI setup cannot be optional any
> > more
> > as components do need to use it. Same for location of files and
> > configuration, for example, if we write a pluggable infrastructure for
> > branding, we cannot damage the interface just because developers runs the
> > product in their own manual customization.
> >
> > I took the opportunity handed to me to port the ovirt-engine to other
> > distributions in order to provide a development environment that is
> > similar
> > to production setup. Together with Sandro Bonazzola and Alex Lourie we
> > re-wrote the whole installation of the product which can also be used to
> > setup the desired development environment.
> >
> > Within this environment the product is set up using the same tools and
> > configuration as in production, while the process does not require
> > special
> > privileges nor changes the state of the developer machine.
> >
> > A complete documentation is available[1], I preferred to use README
> > within
> > the source tree as wiki tend to quickly become obsolete, while
> > documentation
> > within source tree can be modified by the commit that introduces a
> > change.
> > I
> > will redirect to this file from the current wiki once the site will be
> > up.
> >
> > In a nut shell, after installing prerequisites, build and install the
> > product
> > using:
> >
> > $ make clean install-dev PREFIX=$HOME/ovirt-engine
> >
> > This will run maven and create product installation at $HOME/ovirt-engine
> > Next, a setup phase is required just like in production, to initialize
> > configuration and database:
> >
> > $ $HOME/ovirt-engine/bin/engine-setup-2
> >
> > You have now fully functional product, including PKI, SSL, host-deploy,
> > tools.
> > No manual database updates are required, no lose of functionality.
> >
> > All that is left is to start the engine service:
> >
> > $ $HOME/ovirt-engine/share/ovirt-engine/services/ovirt-engine.py start
> >
> > Access to application:
> >
http://localhost:8080
> >
https://localhost:8443
> > Debugging port is opened at port 8787.
> >
> > Farther information exists in the documentation[1].
> >
> > There are several inherit benefits of the new environment, the major one
> > is
> > the ability to manage several environments in parallel on the same host.
> > For
> > example, if we develop two separate features on two branches we can
> > install
> > the product into $HOME/ovirt-engine-feature1 and
> > $HOME/ovirt-engine-feature-2 and have a separate database for each, if we
> > modify the ports jboss is listening to we can run two instances of engine
> > at
> > the same time!
>
> It is not clear to me why working on 2 bugs needs 2 installations of the
> development environment.
> If you have 2 different git branches and a separate database for each, its
> enough , am I missing something ?
> I was used to create a git branch with the name of the BZ# and use
> create_db.sh script to create a new database with the BZ# name.
> Is this possible in the new method?
> Also, does this mean that I will have to create/configure a new workspace
> for
> eclipse each time I am starting to work on a new bug?
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
> >
> > We will be happy to work with all developers to assist in porting into
> > the
> > new development environment, the simplest is to create a new database for
> > this effort. Moti has a sequence of converting the existing database
> > owned
> > by postgres to be owned by the engine, Moti, can you please share that?
> >
> > We are sure there are missing bits, we will be happy to know these so we
> > can
> > improve.
> >
> > I am aware that developers (especially java) are conservative, but I ask
> > you
> > to give us a chance, so that we make it easy for developers to join the
> > project, and to allow us to drop the parallel effort of packaging to
> > production and fixing the broken development environment.
> >
> > A special thanks to developers who took the time to test and provide
> > feedback
> > before the merged:
> > - Yaniv Bronheim
> > - Moti Asayag
> > - Limor Gavish
> > - Sharad Mishra
> > - Ofer Schreiber
> >
> > We are hoping that after migration you will be find this environment
> > useful
> > and friendly,
> >
> > Sandro Bonazzola,
> > Alex Lourie,
> > Alon Bar-Lev.
> >
> > [1]
> >
http://gerrit.ovirt.org/gitweb?p=ovirt-engine.git;a=blob;f=README.develop...
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