Re: [ovirt-devel] Entity names in DB scripts

Tuesday, 27 May 2014



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 > > > > > > From: "Moti Asayag" <masayag(a)redhat.com&gt;
 > > > > > > To: "Martin Perina" <mperina(a)redhat.com&gt;
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 > > > > > > > > Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 11:37:23 AM
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Entity names in DB scripts
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 > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
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 > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, May 15,
2014 3:20:18 PM
 > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: [ovirt-devel]
Entity names in DB scripts
 > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
 > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all,
 > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have a feeling there
is some inconsistency in
 > > > > > > > > > > > > > using
 > > > > > > > > > > > > > entity
 > > > > > > > > > > > > > names
 > > > > > > > > > > > > > in
 > > > > > > > > > > > > > the
 > > > > > > > > > > > > > DB
 > > > > > > > > > > > > > scripts.
 > > > > > > > > > > > > > For example, should we
use Host or VDS?
 > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not talking about
existing tables or columns
 > > > > > > > > > > > > > but
 > > > > > > > > > > > > > about
 > > > > > > > > > > > > > new
 > > > > > > > > > > > > > ones
 > > > > > > > > > > > > > (and
 > > > > > > > > > > > > > new
 > > > > > > > > > > > > > stored procedures).
 > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
 > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am quite sure I saw
patches containing both
 > > > > > > > > > > > > > approaches.
 > > > > > > > > > > > 
 > > > > > > > > > > > I guess that includes any recent
patches around the
 > > > > > > > > > > > network
 > > > > > > > > > > > area.
 > > > > > > > > > > > 
 > > > > > > > > > > > > 
 > > > > > > > > > > > > You are right
 > > > > > > > > > > > > I think old should be kept
until we have the time to
 > > > > > > > > > > > > do
 > > > > > > > > > > > > a
 > > > > > > > > > > > > global
 > > > > > > > > > > > > find/replace
 > > > > > > > > > > > > of all old names.
 > > > > > > > > > > > 
 > > > > > > > > > > > Without enabling the
"new" (or more appropriate) naming
 > > > > > > > > > > > to
 > > > > > > > > > > > new
 > > > > > > > > > > > code
 > > > > > > > > > > > we:
 > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Increase the amount of
'old' code in the system
 > > > > > > > > > > > (gaining
 > > > > > > > > > > > more
 > > > > > > > > > > > debts)
 > > > > > > > > > > > 2. As a result - more work when
and if global change
 > > > > > > > > > > > will
 > > > > > > > > > > > take
 > > > > > > > > > > > affect.
 > > > > > > > > > > > 3. Double the entire work flow:
code + review.
 > > > > > > > > > > > 
 > > > > > > > > > > > That change should start at some
point, and having it
 > > > > > > > > > > > incrementally
 > > > > > > > > > > > is
 > > > > > > > > > > > a
 > > > > > > > > > > > valid approach
 > > > > > > > > > > > to achieve that goal.
 > > > > > > > > > > 
 > > > > > > > > > > I basically agree, but first someone
(that can say that)
 > > > > > > > > > > should
 > > > > > > > > > > say
 > > > > > > > > > > that
 > > > > > > > > > > we
 > > > > > > > > > > are going to do that and allocate
resources to this tasks
 > > > > > > > > > > ,
 > > > > > > > > > > unless
 > > > > > > > > > > ,
 > > > > > > > > > > you
 > > > > > > > > > > are
 > > > > > > > > > > left in hybrid ugly condition
 > > > > > > > > > 
 > > > > > > > > > 
 > > > > > > > > > 
 > > > > > > > > > Guys please post the list of Entities and
let's agree on
 > > > > > > > > > new
 > > > > > > > > > names.
 > > > > > > > > 
 > > > > > > > > Top 3 :
 > > > > > > > > 
 > > > > > > > > StoragePool => DC
 > > > > > > > > VdsGroup => Cluster
 > > > > > 
 > > > > > IMO VdsGroup should be named MigrationDomain[1].
 
 -1
 
 > > > > > cluster is too general[2].
 > > > > > 
 > > > > 
 > > > > IMHO we should name it Cluster, just like it is in the UI.
 > > > 
 > > > Also named Cluster in the restapi and in the sdk.
 > > 
 > > +1 
+1 as well 

...
 > > 
 > > > 
 > > > > I wouldn't change it into MigrationDomain.
 > > > > Moreover, in some cases VMs might not be able to migrate to all the
 > > > > hosts
 > > > > in
 > > > > the cluster, depending on your configuration, so it isn't even
true
 > > > > at
 > > > > all
 > > > > times.
 > > > 
 > > > In addition, Gluster Cluster doesn't fall into migration domain
 > > > category.
 > > 
 > > again, you only re-enforcing my argument, it named 'Gluster Cluster',
so
 > > we
 > > should name it VM Cluster, not Cluster.
 > > > 
 > 
 > Some clusters are both virt and gluster clusters.....
 > I suggest leaving the Cluster name as is.
 > 
 
 +1
 
 > > > > 
 > > > > Thanks,
 > > > > Oved
 > > > > 
 > > > > > Thanks,
 > > > > > Gilad.
 > > > > > 
 > > > > > [1] http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/D/domain_migration.html
 > > > > > [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cluster
 > > > > > 
 > > > > > 
 > > > > > > > > Vds => Host
 > > > > > > > 
 > > > > > > > I would prefer DataCenter instead of DC for class
name.
 > > > > > > > 
 > > > > > > > But +1 for starting the process.
 > > > > > > > 
 > > > > > > 
 > > > > > > +1 for DataCenter (and other proposed names)
 > > > > > > 
 > > > > > > > > 
 > > > > > > > > 
 > > > > > > > > > 
 > > > > > > > > > Once this is done - each maintainer/reviewer
should start
 > > > > > > > > > enforcing
 > > > > > > > > > that
 > > > > > > > > > policy in his reviews.
 > > > > > > > > > 
 > > > > > > > > > I don't think this task should have
specific task force
 > > > > > > > > > allocated
 > > > > > > > > > for
 > > > > > > > > > that.
 > > > > > > > > > 
 > > > > > > > > > As a guide line - Those patches (rename
patches) should be
 > > > > > > > > > separated
 > > > > > > > > > from
 > > > > > > > > > the
 > > > > > > > > > logic change (on top of the name change
patches).
 > > > > > > > > > 
 > > > > > > > > > 
 > > > > > > > > > Thanks
 > > > > > > > > > Barak Azulay
 > > > > > > > > > 
 > > > > > > > > >  
 > > > > > > > > > 
 > > > > > > > > > 
 > > > > > > > > > > 
 > > > > > > > > > > > 
 > > > > > > > > > > > > The only place in which I
encourage new names are
 > > > > > > > > > > > > application
 > > > > > > > > > > > > log/audit
 > > > > > > > > > > > > messages
 > > > > > > > > > > > > 
 > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
 > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yair
 > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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Re: [ovirt-devel] Entity names in DB scripts