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From: "Einav Cohen" <ecohen@redhat.com> To: "Oved Ourfalli" <ovedo@redhat.com> Cc: engine-devel@ovirt.org Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 10:25:24 AM Subject: Re: [Engine-devel] Disk Permissions Feature
----- Original Message ----- From: "Oved Ourfalli" <ovedo@redhat.com> Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2012 11:52:33 AM
On 03/15/2012 05:34 PM, Omer Frenkel wrote:
>> > > 1. "Create disk - requires permissions on the >> > > Storage >> > > Domain, >> > > (can't >> > > assume Quota is sufficient to permit user creating >> > > the >> > > disk >> > > on the >> > > Storage Domain, as Quota might be disabled)" >> > > >> > > I'd also specify create disk for regular disks is >> > > at >> > > storage domain >> > > level?, while direct lun disks require system level >> > > permission of >> > > add disk. >> > > >> > > so, if quota is disabled, how important is it to >> > > prevent >> > > creation >> > > of >> > > disks (other than direct lun ones, which would >> > > require >> > > a >> > > permission >> > > similar to storage domain creation)? >> > > >> > > if this is added, it has to be implicitly added / >> > > not >> > > needed if >> > > user has >> > > quota (i.e., having a quota should be similar to >> > > having >> > > a >> > > permission as >> > > far as the check goes). >> > > > > > > We should look into it, how complicate is it to > > validate > > if > > user has > > either quota or permission, and allow creating a disk > > on > > a > > SD > > if > > either > > exists. this might be confusing to the user as he can disable the quota, then stuff would stop working.
we can't require both quota and permissions from user on storage domains - that's cumbersome. question is if we can limit the need for permissions to disks only to places where they are needed (shared, direct, floating)?
+1 on that. I also think it is only relevant on attaching a disk to a VM, as the other use-cases are simpler: 1. Attach disk to VM - would require having permissions on the disk (whether it is shared, direct lun or floating) 2. Add disk to VM - would only require quota (if enforced). 3. Create disk (i.e., floating/shared disk) - would only require quota (if enforced).
and if not enforced? anyone can create as much disks as he like? we thought of requiring permissions if quota is disabled, but i think its confusing to the user as he plays with You are right. Need to think this through... Also, we need to get a better understanding on the use-cases for floating/shared disk... who is supposed to create them, and who to attach...
The convention today is that in order to create something, you need permissions on the ancestor entity. Therefore, I think it should be as follows:
1. In order to create a Disk in a VM context, you need permission on the VM (just like in 3.0, IIRC). 2. In order to create a Floating Disk within a storage domain, you need permission on the storage domain
"1" is okay as long as we limit the user from detaching this disk later on, as detaching it will make it floating. Or, we can allow detaching only in case the user has permissions on the storage domain, but that will be hard to understand in a user's perspective.
3. In order to create an External LUN Disk, you need permission on System/DC/Whatever we decide the ancestor entity of External LUN is. 4? Not sure regarding creation of External LUN Disk in a VM context (if that scenario exists) - will probably need a permission on both VM and External-LUN-ancestor, since this is a special case.
All of the above is regardless quota, meaning, if quota is enforced, quota restrictions will apply as relevant *in addition* to the permission limitations.
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