3:45 p.m.
--_000_EF26FC1776F7FF46BFC072393EFD13A2558049E0SERV070corpeldo_
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,
In an initial analysis, in my opinion I would discard the "Alternate Concep=
t 3", because it goes against the heuristic number #6 of Nielsen (recogniti=
on rather than recall), it soon becomes difficult for the user remember whe=
re are the options.
Also discard the "Alternate Concept 1", because it blends vertical and hori=
zontal menus, it soon avoids a pattern (system of meaning) and confuses the=
user.
Thanks.
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2013 07:49:39 -0500 (EST)
From: Eldan Hildesheim <ehildesh@redhat.com<mailto:ehildesh@redhat.com> To: Shahar Havivi
<shaharh@redhat.com<mailto:shaharh@redhat.com> Cc:
engine-devel <engine-devel@ovirt.org<mailto:engine-devel@ovirt.org> Subject: Re: [Engine-devel] Options for embedding Cloud init
features into =
VM dialog - Need Input
Hi,
Can we merge those 2 pages together?
Eldan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Shahar Havivi" <shaharh at redhat.com To:
"Malini Rao" <mrao at redhat.com Cc:
"engine-devel" <engine-devel at ovirt.org>, "Eldan Hildesheim"
<ehildes=
h at redhat.com>, "Omer Frenkel" <ofrenkel at redhat.com>, "Michal
Skrivane=
k" <michal.skrivanek at redhat.com Sent:
Tuesday, December 24, 2013 2:33:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Engine-devel] Options for embedding Cloud init features into =
VM dialog - Need Input
Hi,
We have a feature page for the VM Init (including Cloud-Init and Windows
Sysprep):
http://www.ovirt.org/Features/vm-init-persistent
<head <meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type"
content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii"=
<meta name=3D"Generator" content=3D"Microsoft
Word 15 (filtered medium)" <style><!--
/* Font Definitions */
@font-face
{font-family:"Cambria Math";
panose-1:0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0;}
@font-face
{font-family:Calibri;
panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;}
/* Style Definitions */
p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal
{margin:0cm;
margin-bottom:.0001pt;
font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
mso-fareast-language:EN-US;}
a:link, span.MsoHyperlink
{mso-style-priority:99;
color:#0563C1;
text-decoration:underline;}
a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed
{mso-style-priority:99;
color:#954F72;
text-decoration:underline;}
span.EmailStyle17
{mso-style-type:personal;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:windowtext;}
span.EmailStyle18
{mso-style-type:personal-reply;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D;}
.MsoChpDefault
{mso-style-type:export-only;
font-size:10.0pt;}
@page WordSection1
{size:612.0pt 792.0pt;
margin:70.85pt 3.0cm 70.85pt 3.0cm;}
div.WordSection1
{page:WordSection1;}
--></style><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml
<o:shapedefaults v:ext=3D"edit" spidmax=3D"1026" / </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso
9]><xml <o:shapelayout
v:ext=3D"edit" <o:idmap v:ext=3D"edit"
data=3D"1" /
</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--
</head <body lang=3D"PT-BR"
link=3D"#0563C1" vlink=3D"#954F72" <div
class=3D"WordSection1" <p
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"
style=3D"color:#1F497D">Hi,<o:p=
></o:p></span></p <p
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"
style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p <p
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"
style=3D"color:#1F497D">In an i=
nitial analysis, in my opinion I would discard the "Alternate Concept =
3", because it goes against the heuristic number #6 of Nielsen (recogn=
ition rather than recall), it soon becomes difficult
for the user remember where are the
options.<o:p></o:p></span></p <p
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"
style=3D"color:#1F497D">Also di=
scard the "Alternate Concept 1", because it blends vertical and h=
orizontal menus, it soon avoids a pattern (system of meaning) and confuses =
the user.<o:p></o:p></span></p <p
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"
style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p <p
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
style=3D"color:#1F497D">Thanks.<o:p></o:p></sp=
an></p <p
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></spa=
n></p <p
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></spa=
n></p <p
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></spa=
n></p <p
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></spa=
n></p <div
style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm =
4.0pt" <p
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Date: Tue, 24 Dec
2013 07:49:39=
-0500 (EST)<o:p></o:p></span></p <p
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">From: Eldan
Hildesheim <<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:ehildesh@redhat.com">ehildesh@redhat.com</a>><o:p></o:p></=
span></p <p
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">To: Shahar Havivi
<<a href=
=3D"mailto:shaharh@redhat.com">shaharh@redhat.com</a>><o:p></o:p></span>=
</p <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
lang=3D"EN-US">Cc: engine-devel <<a href=3D=
"mailto:engine-devel@ovirt.org">engine-devel@ovirt.org</a>><o:p></o:p></=
span></p <p
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Subject: Re:
[Engine-devel] Opt=
ions for embedding Cloud init features into VM dialog - Need Input<o:p></o:=
p></span></p <p
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
lang=3D"EN-US">Hi,<o:p></o:p></span></p <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
lang=3D"EN-US">Can we merge those 2 pages toge=
ther?<o:p></o:p></span></p <p
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
lang=3D"EN-US">Eldan<o:p></o:p></span></p <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
lang=3D"EN-US">----- Original Message -----<o:=
p></o:p></span></p <p
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">From:
"Shahar Havivi"=
<shaharh at redhat.com><o:p></o:p></span></p <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
lang=3D"EN-US">To: "Malini Rao" <=
mrao at redhat.com><o:p></o:p></span></p <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
lang=3D"EN-US">Cc: "engine-devel" &l=
t;engine-devel at ovirt.org>, "Eldan Hildesheim" <ehildesh
=
at redhat.com>, "Omer Frenkel" <ofrenkel at
redhat.com>,=
"Michal Skrivanek" <michal.skrivanek at
redhat.com><o:p></=
o:p></span></p <p
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Sent: Tuesday,
December 24, 201=
3 2:33:28 PM<o:p></o:p></span></p <p
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Subject: Re:
[Engine-devel] Opt=
ions for embedding Cloud init features into VM dialog - Need Input<o:p></o:=
p></span></p <p
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
lang=3D"EN-US">Hi,<o:p></o:p></span></p <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
lang=3D"EN-US">We have a feature page for the =
VM Init (including Cloud-Init and Windows<o:p></o:p></span></p <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
lang=3D"EN-US">Sysprep):<o:p></o:p></span></p <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
lang=3D"EN-US"><a href=3D"http://www.ovirt.org=
/Features/vm-init-persistent">http://www.ovirt.org/Features/vm-init-persist=
ent</a><o:p></o:p></span></p <p
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
lang=3D"EN-US">>From: "Malini Rao"=
; <mrao at redhat.com><o:p></o:p></span></p <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
lang=3D"EN-US">>To: "engine-devel"=
; <engine-devel at ovirt.org><o:p></o:p></span></p <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
lang=3D"EN-US">>Cc: "Eldan Hildesheim&=
quot; <ehildesh at redhat.com><o:p></o:p></span></p <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
lang=3D"EN-US">>Sent: Monday, December 23, =
2013 11:43:07 PM<o:p></o:p></span></p <p
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">>Subject:
[Engine-devel] Opt=
ions for embedding Cloud init features into VM dialog - Need Input<o:p></o:=
p></span></p <p
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
lang=3D"EN-US">><o:p> </o:p></span></p=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
lang=3D"EN-US">>Hello all, <o:p></o:p></spa=
n></p <p
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
lang=3D"EN-US">><o:p> </o:p></span></p=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
lang=3D"EN-US">>There is a current feature =
to embed cloud init configuration which was originally part of the Run dial=
og to be part of the create/ Edit VM dialog. This presents a challenge in t=
erms of good display of the hierarchies
of information since the VM dialog is already having subtabs stacked verti=
cally. Please find here (<a
href=3D"http://www.ovirt.org/UX/cloud_init">htt=
p://www.ovirt.org/UX/cloud_init</a>) alternate concepts of how we might rep=
resent all the levels of hierarchy
from the VM dialog sub tabs to the cloud init categories and the content (=
which is also nested sometimes) for each.<o:p></o:p></span></p <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
lang=3D"EN-US">><o:p> </o:p></span></p=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
lang=3D"EN-US">>I have provided brief expla=
nations of each concept and I would like your feedback on these ... esp wit=
h regard to feasibility. The general goals that govern the various concepts=
are -
<o:p></o:p></span></p <p
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
lang=3D"EN-US">><o:p> </o:p></span></p=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
lang=3D"EN-US">>- Correct representation of=
the hierarchy<o:p></o:p></span></p <p
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">>- Not
overloading the users=
with too much info and cluttering the
screen<o:p></o:p></span></p <p
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">>- Not
utilizing the same UI=
paradigm ( like expand/ collapse) for different types of info. For example=
, we have categories of info where the fields are distinct from each other =
and then we have times where the user is
able to add multiple instances of the same object type - e.g NICs and have=
the same set of fields be defined for each instance.
<o:p></o:p></span></p <p
class=3D"MsoNormal">><o:p> </o:p></p <p class=3D"MsoNormal">>Your feedback is
appreciated.<o:p></o:p></p <p
class=3D"MsoNormal">><o:p> </o:p></p <p
class=3D"MsoNormal">>Thanks<o:p></o:p></p <p
class=3D"MsoNormal">>Malini<o:p></o:p></p </div
</div </body </html
--_000_EF26FC1776F7FF46BFC072393EFD13A2558049E0SERV070corpeldo_--
From: "Malini Rao" <mrao at redhat.com To: "engine-devel" <engine-devel at ovirt.org Cc: "Eldan Hildesheim" <ehildesh at redhat.com Sent: Monday, December 23, 2013 11:43:07 PM
Subject: [Engine-devel] Options for embedding Cloud init features into VM =
dialog -
Need Input
Hello all,
There is a current feature to embed cloud init configuration which was ori=
ginally
part of the Run dialog to be part of the create/ Edit VM dialog. Th=
is presents a challenge in terms of good display of the hierarchies of inf=
ormation since the VM dialog is already having subtabs stacked vertically. =
Please find here (http://www.ovirt.org/UX/cloud_init) alternate concepts of=
how we might represent all the levels of hierarchy from the VM dialog sub =
tabs to the cloud init categories and the content ( which is also nested so=
metimes) for each.
I have provided brief explanations of each concept and I would like your f=
eedback
on these ... esp with regard to feasibility. The general goals that=
govern the various concepts are -
- Correct representation of the hierarchy
- Not overloading the users with too much info and cluttering the screen
- Not utilizing the same UI paradigm ( like expand/ collapse) for differen=
t types
of info. For example, we have categories of info where the fields a=
re distinct from each other and then we have times where the user is able t=
o add multiple instances of the same object type - e.g NICs and have the sa=
me set of fields be defined for each instance.
Your feedback is appreciated.
Thanks
Malini
--_000_EF26FC1776F7FF46BFC072393EFD13A2558049E0SERV070corpeldo_
Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
<html xmlns:v=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml"
xmlns:o=3D"urn:schemas-micr=
osoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word"
=
xmlns:m=3D"http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml"
xmlns=3D"http:=
//www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"