Gary,
Thank you for a very detailed proposal.
I would like to address several issues of the proposed Quantum-oVirt integration.
1. User Interface:
Network Management
I suggest to consider Logical Network Management to indicate if the Network should be
managed by Quantum or not. This may lead to different options that user can specify via
UI. It can have a Network Type attribute. Maybe it is a place to consider custom
properties piggy-backing.
Host management
As long as the proposed API is used for viewing interface it's OK. It just should not
be required by user to go over each Host and define each interface with type of Fabric he
should manage. Maybe it should be some defaults on Cluster level (will work for Homogenous
cluster).
2. Back End
Network Creation:
If not every Host in the cluster has Quantum supporting interface, it should be forbidden
to apply VM migrate operation to such Host. This probably should be indicated properly via
UI and Backed should not start the migrate process.
VM Creation:
To be able to extend the basic Quantum API and add some QoS/Port Profile attributes to
the port ( like in Cisco plugin). There should be some way in oVirt to map between port
uuid (+ network)and VM id.
VM Migrate:
Even though it's just an initial suggestion, I think that VM migration use case
should be elaborated also for 'else' cases. What happens if target Host does not
support Quantum? What happens if target host fails to run VM? Another issue is a lack of
calls to Quantum. For my understanding (but I can be wrong) in OpenStack it will issue
unplug and plug attachment calls.
3. VDSM
Host Management: Any suggestion /plans to define a way to write and deploy a Vif plug
Driver ( a complimentary part to the Quantum Agent)?
Regards,
Irena
-----Original Message-----
From: engine-devel-bounces(a)ovirt.org [mailto:engine-devel-bounces@ovirt.org] On Behalf Of
Gary Kotton
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 2:56 PM
To: dlaor(a)redhat.com
Cc: engine-devel(a)ovirt.org; users(a)ovirt.org
Subject: Re: [Engine-devel] oVirt and Quantum
On 04/30/2012 10:39 AM, Dor Laor wrote:
Gary, would it be possible to compare the current major api verbs
offered by Quantum vs the ones offered by oVirt?
Please look at
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1cLW88tPw-8z_ANXU2WC8gd4U2k-ACrPnM...
This gives a high level explanation of Quantum and the flows. In short both Quantum and
oVirt enable the creation of logical networks. By design Quantum hides the network details
from the user. In oVirt the user is able to configure the tags etc. We are in the process
of addressing this.
It would be nice to review the length/feature-rich of each and also
the ease of use.
In addition to linux bridge (which is what oVirt uses today),
Quantum supports Open vSwitch, RYU and Cisco UCS - these are not supported by oVirt at the
moment. The RYU and Open vSwitch support OpenFlow
In addition, what would be the todo items in order to get OVS working
w/ oVirt?
Actually not much. In fact this is currently supported with the Quantum
integration. There are two parts:
1. The VM vNic management (implemented):
i. Create a tap device that has "ethernet" as the the network device
ii. Set the device us UP
ii. Attach to the integration bridge and configure tags etc. (The Quantum agent does
this part)
2. The host management (to be implemented):
i. oVirt Engine and VDSM need to indicate which physical network interfaces will use
the integration bridge. This can be one or more NICS or a bond (in Quantum this is part of
a configuration file). We need to think of a nice way to show this in the GUI.
ii. The logic in oVirt engine that "decides" if a Host is "Non
Operational" needs to be updated.
Example for Quantum:
http://docs.openstack.org/incubation/openstack-network/developer/quant
um-api-1.0/content/Show_port_Details.html#d6e777
Cheers,
Dor
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