From: "Michael Kublin" <mkublin(a)redhat.com>
To: engine-devel(a)ovirt.org
Sent: Monday, February 4, 2013 8:47:29 AM
Subject: Re: [Engine-devel] Guid & NGuid
----- Original Message -----
> From: "Roy Golan" <rgolan(a)redhat.com>
> To: engine-devel(a)ovirt.org
> Sent: Monday, February 4, 2013 9:18:21 AM
> Subject: Re: [Engine-devel] Guid & NGuid
>
> On 02/03/2013 03:19 PM, Alon Bar-Lev wrote:
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Omer Frenkel" <ofrenkel(a)redhat.com>
> >> To: "Michael Kublin" <mkublin(a)redhat.com>
> >> Cc: "engine-devel" <engine-devel(a)ovirt.org>
> >> Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 3:12:19 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [Engine-devel] Guid & NGuid
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "Michael Kublin" <mkublin(a)redhat.com>
> >>> To: "engine-devel" <engine-devel(a)ovirt.org>
> >>> Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 3:10:14 PM
> >>> Subject: [Engine-devel] Guid & NGuid
> >>>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> In ovirt-engine code we have Guid and NGuid objects.
> >>> Guid is extends NGuid and also NGuid class has method
> >>> getValue()
> >>> which should return Guid.
> >>> As for me these two classes are look like the same and I don't
> >>> see
> >>> to
> >>> much differences between them.
> >>> My proposal is to remove NGuid and move it functionality to
> >>> Guid
> >>> (Because of Guid is much more common)
> >>>
> >> i agree, but we need to take another step forward and allow Guid
> >> to
> >> be null (as it should)
> >> and not assume its EMPTY or have a value (i'm pretty sure we
> >> have
> >> this assumption in many places)
> > Hi,
> >
> > And for the new people out here... why not kill both and use
> > plain
> > standard java UUID[1]?
> +1 for using java.util.UUID
>
> NGuid functionality that should be extracted during the refactor is
> -
> 1. refactor DB and Java so empty or null return values are null and
> not
> EMPTY_GUID
> 2. the special constructor of NGuid for UUID return by Microsoft AD
> should be extracted to a factory/utility
> > I think we should kill compat, I don't see any value in fixing
> > anything about it while leaving it intact.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Alon Bar-Lev.
> >
> > [1]
http://docs.oracle.com/javase/6/docs/api/java/util/UUID.html
Actually there is exists one reason not to use directly UUID at
server side.
The main operations on Guid today it is to convert object to Guid or
Guid to string.
Guid it is immutable object, number of Guids is limited and almost
never changed,
These sound like classical case for object that can be cached.
Benefit - reduced number of string manipulations, reduced number of
created instances, less work
for garbage collection
UUID has the same properties, it is immutable. So you could do the same with UUID, but I
am not sure you could effectively cache these objects and prove that you are saving either
CPU, heap, or GC time.
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