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On 21 Feb 2017, at 09:36, Eyal Edri <eedri(a)redhat.com> wrote:
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On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 10:34 AM, Sandro Bonazzola =
<sbonazzo(a)redhat.com
<mailto:sbonazzo@redhat.com>> wrote:
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On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 9:31 AM, Eyal Edri <eedri(a)redhat.com =
<mailto:eedri@redhat.com>> wrote:
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On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 10:20 AM, Sandro Bonazzola =
<sbonazzo(a)redhat.com
<mailto:sbonazzo@redhat.com>> wrote:
Hi,
I'm facing a new challenge today, I see new features getting pushed to =
oVirt
gerrit intentionally out of bugzilla.
The specific case is not really relevant, but just for reference: =
https://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/65761/ =
<https://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/65761/> .
Looks like we'll see features getting merged without any RFE
opened in =
bugzilla for them.
this is a common case for master, many patches do not have Bug-Url =
including features initially
With current workflow, auto-generating release notes from bugzilla =
doc-texts. this means they won't ever be documented.
true. Typically they don=E2=80=99t have to be as for user consumable =
features there is typically many patches, and eventually the final part =
of feature do have proper tracking, RFE and so on.
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I'd like to open this public discussion getting comments about how =
things
will be handled.
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We can start enforcing bug-url in master branch as well, maybe under =
certain
conditions.=20
I do not see the current practice as problematic
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The issue here is that the decision is to not use bugzilla and use =
something
different like trello.
So enforcing bug-url will collide with the decision from the feature
=
owner team.
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If there is an official decision ( I havn't heard on such ) to move to =
another issue tracker for some of the projects then it needs to be =
planned,
Some of the projects decided not to use bugzilla. It=E2=80=99s a project =
decision, not an =E2=80=9Cofficial=E2=80=9D decision affecting other =
projects.
In this case the reason is that a supposed feature triggered a code =
change in a side project using bugzilla.=20
I would say in that case it either deserves a bugzilla on that side =
project, or we decide it=E2=80=99s not important, not a substantial part =
of the whole feature, and therefore doesn=E2=80=99t need to be =
documented/tracked in that side project and use Bug-Url-less commit to =
master.
and maybe consider adding tools/verification for the new tools.
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But it doesn't make sense to start supporting more than one issue =
tracker, we
have too many systems already, so if we move, then all =
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needs to move.=20
github issue is fairly common so if we want to support something else in =
addition to bugzilla Bug-Url this would be a good candidate
Thanks,
michal
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Eyal Edri
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Red Hat Israel
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phone: +972-9-7692018 <tel:+972%209-769-2018>
irc: eedri (on #tlv #rhev-dev #rhev-integ)
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Sandro Bonazzola
Better technology. Faster innovation. Powered by community =
collaboration.
See how it works at redhat.com <http://redhat.com/>
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Eyal Edri
Associate Manager
RHV DevOps
EMEA ENG Virtualization R&D
Red Hat Israel
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phone: +972-9-7692018
irc: eedri (on #tlv #rhev-dev #rhev-integ)
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class=3D""><br class=3D""><div><blockquote
type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On 21 Feb 2017, at 09:36, Eyal Edri <<a =
href=3D"mailto:eedri@redhat.com"
class=3D"">eedri(a)redhat.com</a>&gt; =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div
class=3D""><div =
dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><br class=3D""><div
class=3D"gmail_extra"><br =
class=3D""><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at
10:34 AM, =
Sandro Bonazzola <span dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><<a =
href=3D"mailto:sbonazzo@redhat.com" target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">sbonazzo(a)redhat.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br =
class=3D""><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote"
style=3D"margin:0 0 0 =
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D""><br class=3D""><div
class=3D"gmail_extra"><br class=3D""><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote"><span class=3D"">On Tue, Feb 21, 2017
at 9:31 AM, =
Eyal Edri <span dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><<a =
href=3D"mailto:eedri@redhat.com" target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">eedri(a)redhat.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br =
class=3D""><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote"
style=3D"margin:0 0 0 =
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D""><br class=3D""><div
class=3D"gmail_extra"><br class=3D""><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote"><span class=3D"">On Tue, Feb 21, 2017
at 10:20 AM, =
Sandro Bonazzola <span dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><<a =
href=3D"mailto:sbonazzo@redhat.com" target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">sbonazzo(a)redhat.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br =
class=3D""><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote"
style=3D"margin:0 0 0 =
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D"">Hi,<div class=3D"">I'm facing a new challenge
today, I see =
new features getting pushed to oVirt gerrit intentionally out of =
bugzilla.</div><div class=3D"">The specific case is not really
relevant, =
but just for reference: <a =
href=3D"https://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/65761/" target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">https://gerrit.ovir<wbr
class=3D"">t.org/#/c/65761/</a> =
.</div><div class=3D"">Looks like we'll see features getting
merged =
without any RFE opened in bugzilla for =
them.</div></div></blockquote></span></div></div></div></blockquote></span=
</div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div>=
<br class=3D""></div>this is a common case for master, many
patches do =
not have Bug-Url including features initially</div><div><br =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite"
class=3D""><div class=3D""><div =
dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><div
class=3D"gmail_extra"><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote"
style=3D"margin:0 =
0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div
dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D""><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div
class=3D"gmail_quote"><span =
class=3D""><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote"
style=3D"margin:0 0 0 =
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D""><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div
class=3D"gmail_quote"><span =
class=3D""><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote"
style=3D"margin:0 0 0 =
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D""><div class=3D"">With current workflow,
auto-generating =
release notes from bugzilla doc-texts. this means they won't ever be =
documented.</div></div></blockquote></span></div></div></div></blockquote>=
</span></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div></blockquote=
<div><br class=3D""></div>true. Typically
they don=E2=80=99t have to be =
as for user consumable features there is typically
many patches, and =
eventually the final part of feature do have proper tracking, RFE and so =
on.</div><div><br class=3D""><blockquote
type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><div
class=3D"gmail_extra"><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote"
style=3D"margin:0 =
0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div
dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D""><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div
class=3D"gmail_quote"><span =
class=3D""><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote"
style=3D"margin:0 0 0 =
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D""><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div
class=3D"gmail_quote"><span =
class=3D""><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote"
style=3D"margin:0 0 0 =
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D""><div class=3D""><br
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">I'd like =
to open this public discussion getting comments about how things will be =
handled.</div></div></blockquote><div class=3D""><br
=
class=3D""></div></span><div class=3D"">We can
start enforcing bug-url =
in master branch as well, maybe under certain =
conditions. </div></div></div></div></blockquote></span></div></div><=
/div></blockquote></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br
=
class=3D""></div>I do not see the current practice as =
problematic</div><div><br class=3D""><blockquote
type=3D"cite" =
class=3D""><div class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr"
class=3D""><div =
class=3D"gmail_extra"><div
class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote =
class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc =
solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"
class=3D""><div =
class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><span
class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div></span><div
class=3D"">The issue here is =
that the decision is to not use bugzilla and use something different =
like trello.</div><div class=3D"">So enforcing bug-url will collide
with =
the decision from the feature owner =
team.</div></div></div></div></blockquote><div
class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">If there is an
official decision ( I =
havn't heard on such ) to move to another issue tracker for some of the =
projects then it needs to be =
planned,</div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br
=
class=3D""></div>Some of the projects decided not to use bugzilla. =
It=E2=80=99s a project decision, not an =E2=80=9Cofficial=E2=80=9D =
decision affecting other projects.</div><div>In this case the reason is =
that a supposed feature triggered a code change in a side project using =
bugzilla. </div><div>I would say in that case it either deserves a =
bugzilla on that side project, or we decide it=E2=80=99s not important, =
not a substantial part of the whole feature, and therefore doesn=E2=80=99t=
need to be documented/tracked in that side project and use Bug-Url-less =
commit to master.</div><div><br class=3D""><blockquote
type=3D"cite" =
class=3D""><div class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr"
class=3D""><div =
class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div
class=3D"">and =
maybe consider adding tools/verification for the new =
tools.</div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><div><blockquote
=
type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D""><div
dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div
class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">But it doesn't
make sense to start =
supporting more than one issue tracker, we have too many systems =
already, so if we move, then all projects </div><div
class=3D"">needs=
to
move. </div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br
=
class=3D""></div>github issue is fairly common so if we want to support
=
something else in addition to bugzilla Bug-Url this would be a good =
candidate</div><div><br =
class=3D""></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>michal</div><div><br
=
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite"
class=3D""><div class=3D""><div =
dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><div
class=3D"gmail_extra"><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote"><div
class=3D""> </div><blockquote =
class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc =
solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"
class=3D""><div =
class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><span
class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div
class=3D""> </div><blockquote =
class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc =
solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"
class=3D""><div =
class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div =
class=3D""> </div><blockquote
class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0=
0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span =
class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><div
class=3D"">Thanks,</div><span =
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Virtualization R&D<br class=3D"">Red Hat Israel<br
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Israel<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">phone:
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