On 11 Apr 2013, at 12:26, Yair Zaslavsky <yzaslavs(a)redhat.com> wrote:
----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tomas Jelinek" <tjelinek(a)redhat.com>
> To: "Laszlo Hornyak" <lhornyak(a)redhat.com>
> Cc: "engine-devel" <engine-devel(a)ovirt.org>
> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 11:33:19 AM
> Subject: Re: [Engine-devel] watchdog
>
> Good that you have come up with this! So we will make sure to keep this info.
> Thnx for coming up with it!
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Laszlo Hornyak" <lhornyak(a)redhat.com>
>> To: "Tomas Jelinek" <tjelinek(a)redhat.com>
>> Cc: "engine-devel" <engine-devel(a)ovirt.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 10:25:28 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Engine-devel] watchdog
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Tomas Jelinek" <tjelinek(a)redhat.com>
>>> To: "Laszlo Hornyak" <lhornyak(a)redhat.com>
>>> Cc: "engine-devel" <engine-devel(a)ovirt.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 10:02:16 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Engine-devel] watchdog
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Laszlo Hornyak" <lhornyak(a)redhat.com>
>>>> To: "Itamar Heim" <iheim(a)redhat.com>
>>>> Cc: "engine-devel" <engine-devel(a)ovirt.org>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 9:56:32 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Engine-devel] watchdog
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Isnt someone already working on removing the UI distinction between
>>>> server
>>>> and desktop?
>>> Indeed :)
>>>
>>>>
>>>> However the desktop/server distinction could be useful for scheduling
>>>> information, I hope that will remain.
>>> There will be a combo box: "optimized for server/desktop". That
one
>>> will set up the dialog like you would open the new server/desktop today.
>>> But you will be able to change them - it will be just some sugar. But
>>> there
>>> is no reason
>>> why would we enforce the disabling the e.g. soundcard for server. By
>>> default
>>> we will, but
>>> you can enable it if you want.
>>
>> Ok, so in engine we will still have the VmType in vmStatic?
>>
>> I think it would make sense to use it in scheduling / load balancing
>> - if a VM is a desktop and no user is connected to the console, then the VM
>> is not in use, therefore it is a good candidate for saving power
>> (hibernate,
>> migrate, shutdown, or any other bad things that can happen to a VM)
>> - if a VM is a server, usually no user connected, but it may still be used
>> through its network. Therefore it may not be a good candidate to migrate.
is this indeed a valid assumption ("if VM is a server..." ) that a user will
less connect to it?
IMHO if we want some new behavior/policy there should be a new corresponding
property, not desktop/server. That can be quite misleading and I would rather see it go
away. Other than use it as a set of default values
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Itamar Heim" <iheim(a)redhat.com>
>>>>> To: "Laszlo Hornyak" <lhornyak(a)redhat.com>
>>>>> Cc: "engine-devel" <engine-devel(a)ovirt.org>,
"Andrew Cathrow"
>>>>> <acathrow(a)redhat.com>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 9:38:15 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Engine-devel] watchdog
>>>>>
>>>>> On 04/10/2013 04:59 PM, Laszlo Hornyak wrote:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A new version of the watchdög feature is available in gerrit:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
http://gerrit.ovirt.org/13057 - db
>>>>>>
http://gerrit.ovirt.org/13058 - bll
>>>>>>
http://gerrit.ovirt.org/13059 - frontend
>>>>>>
http://gerrit.ovirt.org/13060 - rest
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
http://www.ovirt.org/Features/Watchdog_engine_support
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Since the last update the patchset has gone through major
changes
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> meet
>>>>>> the new architectureal and functional requirements.
>>>>>> Also because of the rewrite this is again a preview version
under
>>>>>> testing
>>>>>> with some missing functionality, therefore I re-introduced the
>>>>>> [wip]
>>>>>> flag
>>>>>> on it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thx,
>>>>>> Laszlo
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>>>>>
>>>>> just a thought after looking at the feature page having different
HA
>>>>> dialog for server/desktop - I'd consider removing the
distinction
>>>>> between desktop and server in the GUI wrt HA (i.e., just both have
>>>>> same
>>>>> set of options)
>>>>>
>>>>> (not blocking for this patch)
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