2:10 p.m.
On 04/11/2013 01:57 PM, Laszlo Hornyak wrote:
No what I meant is that
if the VM is a server {
not having a console connection to it does not mean that it is not used.
}
Therefore desktops on the same host with no console connection, they may be better
candidates for migration. You can connect to servers.
I'd actually like to lose the distinction between server and desktop
other than a set of optimizations.
i.e., if there is an optimization you want to make based on console
being connected, model that and ask for that specifically (maybe I use
desktop differently than you think)
----- Original Message -----
> From: "Yair Zaslavsky" <yzaslavs(a)redhat.com>
> To: "Tomas Jelinek" <tjelinek(a)redhat.com>
> Cc: "Laszlo Hornyak" <lhornyak(a)redhat.com>, "engine-devel"
<engine-devel(a)ovirt.org>
> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 12:26:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [Engine-devel] watchdog
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Tomas Jelinek" <tjelinek(a)redhat.com>
>> To: "Laszlo Hornyak" <lhornyak(a)redhat.com>
>> Cc: "engine-devel" <engine-devel(a)ovirt.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 11:33:19 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Engine-devel] watchdog
>>
>> Good that you have come up with this! So we will make sure to keep this
>> info.
>> Thnx for coming up with it!
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Laszlo Hornyak" <lhornyak(a)redhat.com>
>>> To: "Tomas Jelinek" <tjelinek(a)redhat.com>
>>> Cc: "engine-devel" <engine-devel(a)ovirt.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 10:25:28 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Engine-devel] watchdog
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Tomas Jelinek" <tjelinek(a)redhat.com>
>>>> To: "Laszlo Hornyak" <lhornyak(a)redhat.com>
>>>> Cc: "engine-devel" <engine-devel(a)ovirt.org>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 10:02:16 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Engine-devel] watchdog
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Laszlo Hornyak" <lhornyak(a)redhat.com>
>>>>> To: "Itamar Heim" <iheim(a)redhat.com>
>>>>> Cc: "engine-devel" <engine-devel(a)ovirt.org>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 9:56:32 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Engine-devel] watchdog
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> Isnt someone already working on removing the UI distinction between
>>>>> server
>>>>> and desktop?
>>>> Indeed :)
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> However the desktop/server distinction could be useful for
scheduling
>>>>> information, I hope that will remain.
>>>> There will be a combo box: "optimized for server/desktop". That
one
>>>> will set up the dialog like you would open the new server/desktop
>>>> today.
>>>> But you will be able to change them - it will be just some sugar. But
>>>> there
>>>> is no reason
>>>> why would we enforce the disabling the e.g. soundcard for server. By
>>>> default
>>>> we will, but
>>>> you can enable it if you want.
>>>
>>> Ok, so in engine we will still have the VmType in vmStatic?
>>>
>>> I think it would make sense to use it in scheduling / load balancing
>>> - if a VM is a desktop and no user is connected to the console, then the
>>> VM
>>> is not in use, therefore it is a good candidate for saving power
>>> (hibernate,
>>> migrate, shutdown, or any other bad things that can happen to a VM)
>>> - if a VM is a server, usually no user connected, but it may still be
>>> used
>>> through its network. Therefore it may not be a good candidate to migrate.
>
> is this indeed a valid assumption ("if VM is a server..." ) that a user
will
> less connect to it?
>
>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Itamar Heim" <iheim(a)redhat.com>
>>>>>> To: "Laszlo Hornyak" <lhornyak(a)redhat.com>
>>>>>> Cc: "engine-devel" <engine-devel(a)ovirt.org>,
"Andrew Cathrow"
>>>>>> <acathrow(a)redhat.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 9:38:15 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Engine-devel] watchdog
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 04/10/2013 04:59 PM, Laszlo Hornyak wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A new version of the watchdög feature is available in
gerrit:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://gerrit.ovirt.org/13057 - db
>>>>>>> http://gerrit.ovirt.org/13058 - bll
>>>>>>> http://gerrit.ovirt.org/13059 - frontend
>>>>>>> http://gerrit.ovirt.org/13060 - rest
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.ovirt.org/Features/Watchdog_engine_support
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Since the last update the patchset has gone through major
changes
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> meet
>>>>>>> the new architectureal and functional requirements.
>>>>>>> Also because of the rewrite this is again a preview version
under
>>>>>>> testing
>>>>>>> with some missing functionality, therefore I re-introduced
the
>>>>>>> [wip]
>>>>>>> flag
>>>>>>> on it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thx,
>>>>>>> Laszlo
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> just a thought after looking at the feature page having
different
>>>>>> HA
>>>>>> dialog for server/desktop - I'd consider removing the
distinction
>>>>>> between desktop and server in the GUI wrt HA (i.e., just both
have
>>>>>> same
>>>>>> set of options)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (not blocking for this patch)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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