Hi Ly,
So basically just to be clear, indeed memory_over_commit is the solution
for memory over commitment. Changing it enabled you to run the amount of
VMs you need.
----- Original Message -----
From: "ly pan" <plysab(a)gmail.com>
To: "Doron Fediuck" <dfediuck(a)redhat.com>
Cc: engine-devel(a)ovirt.org
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 12:32:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Engine-devel] Question about hasMemoryToRunVM() in RunVmCommandBase
Hi Doron,
Sorry for the so late reply.
These days I looked into the code again and found it's my setting not
rightly configured.
1. You opinion about reserved_mem is right.
2. Yes, pending_vmem_size is 0 before the 84th runs.
3. memory_over_commit is where my problem is.
In webadmin UI, I set the cluster's memory optimization
to none, thus memory_over_commit is 100 in DB(the dafault value is
100
in my env).
when I set the cluster's mem_opt to 'for server load',
memory_over_commit grows to 150
and when I set to 'for desktop load', memory_over_commit grows to
200.
Both 'for server load' and 'for desktop load' have let the
vdsMemLimit
grows dramaticaly,
thus the 84th vm managed to run.
So I realized the memory optimization option in cluster is for KSM
function.
Thank you.
ly pan
2012/10/24 Doron Fediuck <dfediuck(a)redhat.com>:
> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "ly pan" <plysab(a)gmail.com>
>> To: engine-devel(a)ovirt.org
>> Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 2:43:35 PM
>> Subject: [Engine-devel] Question about hasMemoryToRunVM() in
>> RunVmCommandBase
>>
>> Hi:
>>
>> This is my test environment:
>> hardware: Dell PowerEdge 2710 ,Memory 48G
>> Software: OVirt engine 3.0 ,VDSM 4.9.4 ,kernel
>> 2.6.32-279.2.1.el6.x86_64
>>
>>
>> I create 100 vms from pool(each vm has 512M memory and has
>> 1M memory garanteed, with guest_overhead = 65 and reserved_mem =
>> 256),
>> but only 83 vms
>> turn out to run. When I run the 84th vm, engine says there is not
>> enough memory. However at this time KSM is enabled and 15G free
>> memory
>> is still left on the host.
>>
>> I checked the code and found out that before running a vm, the
>> function hasMemoryToRunVM() in RunVmCommandBase would decide
>> whether
>> there is enough memory in the selected host to run it.
>> The Algorithm in the function is like this:
>> mem_avaliable >= mem_required = curVds.getmem_commited() +
>> curVds.getpending_vmem_size()
>> + curVds.getguest_overhead() + curVds.getreserved_mem() +
>> vm.getMinAllocatedMem();
>>
>> And here is my question: curVds.getmem_commited() is caculated
>> from
>> the memory of vm
>> assigned by user. But when the host is running with KSM enabled,
>> the
>> actual memory of each
>> running vm would be smaller than the memory the user assigned to.
>> In
>> this case, the following
>> may occur: engine says there be no more memroy to run any vm while
>> the
>> host has much free
>> space to run more vms(in my case, 15G).
>>
>>
>> Therefore I think the actual memory size reported by vdsm(The KSM
>> shared memory) should be taken into account when calculating
>> curVds.getmem_commited(). Any ideas are welcome.
>
> Hi Ly,
> Sorry for the delay. I'd like to look into this issue.
> In the meanwhile a few relevant points;
>
> 1. You're saying that reserved_mem=256. This is not accurate, since
> it's
> reported by vds as host_mem_reserve(256) + extra_mem_reserve(65) =
> 321
>
> 2. I'm assuming you retried running the 84th vm, just to make sure
> your
> pending_vmem_size is 0 once all 83 VMs are running.
>
> 3. So assuming (2) is correct, I'd like to ask what's the
> max_vds_memory_over_commit
> you have for the cluster? By default it's set to 120, and in such a
> case the 84th
> VM should still be running.
>
> Here's a calculation sample based on your data, and the above 3
> issues:
>
> vdsCurrentMem =
> 83 * (512M+65) = 47,891
> 0
> 65
> 321
> 1
> =======
> 48,278
>
> vdsMemLimit =
> 120/100
> *
> 47,321.1328125 // reported by vdsm: 'cat /proc/meminfo | grep
> MemTotal' / 1024
> =========
> 56,785.359375
>
> So vdsCurrentMem <= vdsMemLimit should be true unless you changed
> something
> such as the MemTotal or the memory_over_commit. You can try and
> change memory_over_commit
> let us know how it works.
>
> Doron
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