Hi,
I just found there maybe another big performance issue. Currently, I am not sure how long
this periodic check need, suppose there are 100+ hosts running in a trusted cluster, one
host may take 3-5 seconds to poll attestation server, it will still take 5-9 mins to get
all of the status for these hosts. Would we poll each host when this host's adding
into cluster only once, as host's status change from trusted to untrusted and take
effect is depended on host's reboot operation, is it possible for us to make it an
event driven notification?
Best Regards,
Dave Chen
-----Original Message-----
From: engine-devel-bounces(a)ovirt.org [mailto:engine-devel-bounces@ovirt.org] On Behalf Of
Doron Fediuck
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 3:06 PM
To: Itamar Heim
Cc: Oved Ourfalli; engine-devel(a)ovirt.org
Subject: Re: [Engine-devel] minutes for sync up on Open Attestation integration with oVirt
in 4/9
----- Original Message -----
From: "Itamar Heim" <iheim(a)redhat.com>
To: "Oved Ourfalli" <ovedo(a)redhat.com>
Cc: engine-devel(a)ovirt.org
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 9:49:12 AM
Subject: Re: [Engine-devel] minutes for sync up on Open Attestation
integration with oVirt in 4/9
On 04/15/2013 09:20 AM, Oved Ourfalli wrote:
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Wei D Chen" <wei.d.chen(a)intel.com>
>> To: "Doron Fediuck" <dfediuck(a)redhat.com>, "Ofri
Masad"
>> <omasad(a)redhat.com>
>> Cc: engine-devel(a)ovirt.org
>> Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 8:54:18 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Engine-devel] minutes for sync up on Open Attestation
>> integration with oVirt in 4/9
>>
>> Hi Doron and Ofri,
>>
>> Thanks for your reply, here is some other question.
>>
>> ii. When adding a host into the trusted cluster, the host will be
>> attested via OAT service, only trusted hosted can be added.
>>
>> Would you also kindly tell me if there is any mandatory logic check
>> when adding a host into a cluster, so we can also put attestation
>> logic with these mandatory check together? Some example or code location is
better.
>> Thanks a lot.
>>
>
> I think there are two approaches, depending on the use case.
> #1:
> If the host trusted property is static, then you can narrow the
> tests to two locations:
> * AddVdsCommand - (Vds = Host) - This command is triggered when a
> new host is added to the system. You can use the canDoAction method
> (which we have on all commands, and it determines whether an action
> can be run or not), and there, if cluster requires trusted hosts
> only, you can test whether this host is trusted or not.
> * ChangeVdsClusterCommand - this command is used when you change the
> cluster of a host. So, if the target cluster requires tursted hosts,
> you can do a similar test in its canDoAction method.
>
> #2:
> If the host trusted property can change, then I'd suggest using the
> NonOperational property of a host.
> We have a class called VdsUpdateRunTimeInfo that does periodic tests
> of hosts, deciding what's their status, according to specific flags.
> The code there is quite complex, and would require refactoring at
> some point, but in the meantime you can use the MonitoringStrategy
> interface that is being used there, and implement a new monitoring
> strategy for Open Attestation.
>
> There, in the processHardwareCapabilities, you can test that the
> host is trusted.
>
> When creating the strategy, using the MonitoringStrategyFactory,
> you'll need to create the appropriate strategy.
> Currently we support either virt strategy or gluster strategy or
> both. In your case you would need virt+attestation /
> gluster+attestation /
> virt+gluster+attestation, according to the services deployed on the
> cluster.
I'd go with the 2nd approach. i.e., not block the host from being
added, only from being used, based on monitoring / non-op status
+1.
It means that the admin can add the host, but the host will not be operational until we
get a positive indication from the attestation service.
>
>
> Does that make sense?
> Doron and Ofri, what did you have in mind for this feature?
>
> Regards,
> Oved
>
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Dave Chen
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Doron Fediuck [mailto:dfediuck@redhat.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 8:03 PM
>> To: Ofri Masad
>> Cc: Wei, Gang; Chen, Wei D; Cao, Buddy; Zhang, Lijuan
>> Subject: Re: minutes for sync up on Open Attestation integration
>> with oVirt in 4/9
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Ofri Masad" <omasad(a)redhat.com>
>>> To: "Gang Wei" <gang.wei(a)intel.com>
>>> Cc: "Wei D Chen" <wei.d.chen(a)intel.com>, "Buddy
Cao"
>>> <buddy.cao(a)intel.com>, "Lijuan Zhang"
<lijuan.zhang(a)intel.com>,
>>> "Doron Fediuck" <dfediuck(a)redhat.com>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 2:23:57 PM
>>> Subject: Re: minutes for sync up on Open Attestation integration
>>> with oVirt in 4/9
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> answers inside the mail body.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Doron Fediuck" <dfediuck(a)redhat.com>
>>>> To: "Wei D Chen" <wei.d.chen(a)intel.com>
>>>> Cc: "Gang Wei" <gang.wei(a)intel.com>, "Buddy
Cao"
>>>> <buddy.cao(a)intel.com>, "Lijuan Zhang"
<lijuan.zhang(a)intel.com>,
>>>> "Ofri Masad" <omasad(a)redhat.com>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 12:12:26 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: minutes for sync up on Open Attestation integration
>>>> with oVirt in 4/9
>>>>
>>>> Hi Dave,
>>>> Adding Ofri to answer your questions.
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Wei D Chen" <wei.d.chen(a)intel.com>
>>>>> To: "Gang Wei" <gang.wei(a)intel.com>, "Doron
Fediuck"
>>>>> <dfediuck(a)redhat.com>,
>>>>> "Buddy Cao" <buddy.cao(a)intel.com>, "Lijuan
Zhang"
>>>>> <lijuan.zhang(a)intel.com>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 6:31:05 AM
>>>>> Subject: RE: minutes for sync up on Open Attestation integration
>>>>> with oVirt in 4/9
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Doron,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> iii. Then periodic trust check will be added into background
process
>>>>> for
>>>>> all existing hosts, once becoming non-trusted, mark it as
>>>>> non-operational.
>>>>>
>>>>> - [Dave] Would you give me some details about the
“background
>>>>> process” mentioned in our sync up meeting? What’s the process
>>>>> and where is related code?
>>>>>
>>>
>>> The use Quartz Job to scheduled background processes.
>>> An example can be found in:
>>>
ovirt-engine/backend/manager/modules/bll/src/main/java/org/ovirt/engine/core/bll/Backend.java(Line:
>>> 222)
>>>
>>> This code calls a method that is located in:
>>> ovirt-engine/backend/manager/modules/bll/src/main/java/org/ovirt/e
>>> ngin e/core/bll/quota/QuotaManager.java
>>> (Line: 1000)
>>> the @OnTimerMethodAnnotation annotation and the unique job name
>>> connects the two in runtime.
>>>
>>> The job can query the attestation server for all the host and then
>>> set untrusted hosts to Non-Operational.
>>> the best way would be to call SetNonOperationalVdsCommand with a
>>> new NonOperationalReason.
>>> This command tries to migrate all VMs from the host and then set
>>> it non operational.
>>> (We need to think about non-migrational VMs - should we close
>>> those VMs or keep the host running)
>>>
>>
>> One more thing you may want to consider; If we get a positive
>> response for a host which is currently non-operational, issue an
>> activate command to try and make it operational again.
>> Alternatively, you may decide not to handle it, assuming untrusted
>> hosts can only be activated manually (see below Ofri's response on
>> activating a host).
>>
>>>>>
>>>>> iv. If admin fixed the non-operational node and try to switch it
to
>>>>> operational mode again, a trust check will happen to gate the
>>>>> switching.
>>>>>
>>>>> - [Dave] If there is a button provided from UI for
checking
>>>>> the
>>>>> logic? or we need add an extra-button for attestation check only?
>>>>>
>>>
>>> In the UI we already have the "Activate" option. What still needs
>>> to be added is the check with the attestation provider to make
>>> sure that if the cluster is defined 'Trusted'. If so, only trusted
>>> host will succeed in the activate command (and, of course, a
>>> proper Audit Log error in case the host failed to activate due to trust
issue.
>>>
>>> the correct place to add this check would be in:
>>> ovirt-engine/backend/manager/modules/vdsbroker/src/main/java/org/o
>>> virt
>>> /engine/core/vdsbroker/VdsManager.java:activate()
>>> this is where the re-activation process begins.
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks very much.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>> Dave Chen
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