On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 10:09:47AM -0400, Antoni Segura Puimedon wrote:
I would advocate for option 2.
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> From: "Michal Skrivanek" <michal.skrivanek(a)redhat.com>
> To: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl(a)redhat.com>
> Cc: "Juan Hernandez" <jhernand(a)redhat.com>, "engine-devel"
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> Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 3:25:24 PM
> Subject: Re: [Engine-devel] [Users] [Feedback required][host-deploy]
Fedora-19 misses tar at minimal setup
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> On Jul 30, 2013, at 15:12 , Alon Bar-Lev <alonbl(a)redhat.com> wrote:
>
> > Hello All,
> >
> > Starting the discussion again...
> >
> > I would like to receive feedback regarding how we should cope with a state
> > presented to use by Fedora.
> >
> > Fedora-19 minimal setup does not install tar utility which is required to
> > deploy files during the host-deploy process (Hosts->Add Host).
> >
> > I guess because of 2.8M in size (including translations) -- a standard
> > commonly used utility was removed.
>
> How about filing bug on that? This is such a basic utility I can't imagine
> anyone removing it.
>
> >
> > There are three alternatives :
> >
> > 1. Instruct users who are using minimal installations to manually install
> > tar utility just like they configure repository, dns, etc..
> >
> > Benefit: simplicity.
> > Benefit: use standard tools.
> > Benefit: lower payload to transmit.
> > Drawback: require tar at destination machine.
> >
> > 2. Do not use tar but self extracting python script, a patch is ready[1].
> >
> > Benefit: ability to deploy environment in which tar is missing.
> > Drawback: non standard tool at destination machine.
> > Drawback: complexity within our code.
How about option 2.1: convince Fedora to reintroduce tar? It is ironic
that Gnome is shipped by default, but not such a staple utility.
Where in Fedora did this decision take place? Can it be undone?
Is it commonplace these days among other distros to boycot tar?
Dan.