----- Original Message -----
From: "Itamar Heim" <iheim(a)redhat.com>
To: "Gilad Chaplik" <gchaplik(a)redhat.com>
Cc: "Vojtech Szocs" <vszocs(a)redhat.com>, "Juan Hernandez"
<jhernand(a)redhat.com>, "engine-devel"
<engine-devel(a)ovirt.org>, "Einav Cohen" <ecohen(a)redhat.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 4:55:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Engine-devel] REST API - where did bookmarks go?
On 03/25/2014 10:52 AM, Gilad Chaplik wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Itamar Heim" <iheim(a)redhat.com>
>> To: "Vojtech Szocs" <vszocs(a)redhat.com>, "Gilad
Chaplik"
>> <gchaplik(a)redhat.com>
>> Cc: "Juan Hernandez" <jhernand(a)redhat.com>,
"engine-devel"
>> <engine-devel(a)ovirt.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 12:17:48 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Engine-devel] REST API - where did bookmarks go?
>>
>> On 03/24/2014 12:40 PM, Vojtech Szocs wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Gilad Chaplik" <gchaplik(a)redhat.com>
>>>> To: "Einav Cohen" <ecohen(a)redhat.com>
>>>> Cc: "Vojtech Szocs" <vszocs(a)redhat.com>, "Juan
Hernandez"
>>>> <jhernand(a)redhat.com>, "engine-devel"
>>>> <engine-devel(a)ovirt.org>
>>>> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 4:46:04 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Engine-devel] REST API - where did bookmarks go?
>>>>
>>>> Hi Einav,
>>>>
>>>> I agree with every word. also thought about it, that's why I wrote
a
>>>> possible
>>>> solution.
>>>> Not sure we need to design the RESTful API according to UI's needs
(add
>>>> features in this case).
>>>
>>> I think that API should accomodate general/common needs of its clients.
>>> After all, the usefulness of API can be measured by its usability from
>>> client's perspective.
>>>
>>> At one extreme, API adapts to each specific client, which in turn bloats
>>> the API. At another extreme, API lives in isolated bubble and doesn't
>>> care
>>> for its clients. Each of these extremes is dangerous :)
>>
>> I find shared bookmarks useful.
>> i do actually think they should have had permissions:
>> - who can see my bookmarks
>> - who can share their bookmarks with others
>
> I think that nowadays bookmarks are a client side feature only.
> You can add bookmarks in your browser, and it will exist everywhere
> (mobile/smartphone/etc) - I use it on a daily basis on 4 different
> devices.
> so you are getting these features for free.
that's multiple devices, not multiple users.
* Have you heard of a user who wants it? I think it's a rare use case, but
maybe(/usually) I'm wrong.
* Google search: share browser bookmarks, About 12,700,000 results
>
> In 'UI over REST' migration process I suggest to leave bookmarks to last,
> and reassess then.
>
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Gilad.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Einav Cohen" <ecohen(a)redhat.com>
>>>>> To: "Gilad Chaplik" <gchaplik(a)redhat.com>
>>>>> Cc: "Vojtech Szocs" <vszocs(a)redhat.com>, "Juan
Hernandez"
>>>>> <jhernand(a)redhat.com>, "engine-devel"
>>>>> <engine-devel(a)ovirt.org>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 5:38:33 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Engine-devel] REST API - where did bookmarks go?
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Gilad, "client-side Bookmarks" is a great suggestion,
however it
>>>>> is a (non-related) RFE, which may be implemented instead of, or in
>>>>> addition to, the already-existing server-side Bookmarks.
>>>>>
>>>>> [keep in mind that server-side bookmarks allow you to add bookmarks
>>>>> that may be used by other users; it is also a feature that exists
>>>>> for a long time in oVirt, so need to think a little bit before
>>>>> removing it]
>>>>>
>>>>> As long as we have server-side Bookmarks (i.e. as long as Bookmark
>>>>> is an engine-managed business entity), they need to be exposed via
>>>>> the REST API.
>>>>>
>>>>> ----
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Einav
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Gilad Chaplik" <gchaplik(a)redhat.com>
>>>>>> To: "Vojtech Szocs" <vszocs(a)redhat.com>
>>>>>> Cc: "Juan Hernandez" <jhernand(a)redhat.com>,
"engine-devel"
>>>>>> <engine-devel(a)ovirt.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 11:28:02 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Engine-devel] REST API - where did bookmarks go?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Guys,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why we need bookmarks in API? a single liner that points out to
>>>>>> another
>>>>>> single liner?
>>>>>> I know that we need it for 'UI over REST' migration,
but...
>>>>>> IMHO bookmarks should be saved in client side, maybe inject the
search
>>>>>> string
>>>>>> in the url, and get 'real' bookmarks/favorites... I
don't know :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Gilad.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Vojtech Szocs" <vszocs(a)redhat.com>
>>>>>>> To: "Juan Hernandez" <jhernand(a)redhat.com>
>>>>>>> Cc: "engine-devel" <engine-devel(a)ovirt.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 1:27:19 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Engine-devel] REST API - where did bookmarks
go?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>> From: "Juan Hernandez"
<jhernand(a)redhat.com>
>>>>>>>> To: "Vojtech Szocs" <vszocs(a)redhat.com>,
"engine-devel"
>>>>>>>> <engine-devel(a)ovirt.org>
>>>>>>>> Cc: "Einav Cohen" <ecohen(a)redhat.com>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 7:22:35 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: REST API - where did bookmarks go?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 03/11/2014 07:15 PM, Vojtech Szocs wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> as part of prototyping new JavaScript binding for
oVirt REST API,
>>>>>>>>> we chose a couple of business entities (resources)
to experiment
>>>>>>>>> with.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I just realized that requesting /ovirt-engine/api
doesn't return
>>>>>>>>> any information about bookmarks. Where did bookmarks
go? Is it
>>>>>>>>> possible to manage bookmarks through REST API?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Note: WebAdmin currently gets bookmarks through GWT
RPC by calling
>>>>>>>>> GetAllBookmarksQuery. Bookmark seems like proper
backend business
>>>>>>>>> entity (with DAO and everything) so it should be
exposed also via
>>>>>>>>> REST API.. or am I missing something?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>> Vojtech
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The didn't go anywhere, just never existed in the
API. Please open a
>>>>>>>> RFE
>>>>>>>> to add them.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks, Juan. The RFE is here:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/1075556
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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