11:33 p.m.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl(a)redhat.com>
To: "Greg Sheremeta" <gshereme(a)redhat.com>
Cc: "Yair Zaslavsky" <yzaslavs(a)redhat.com>, "Itamar Heim"
<iheim(a)redhat.com>, devel(a)ovirt.org
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2014 4:20:19 PM
Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] [ENGINE] thoughts about LinqUtils
----- Original Message -----
> From: "Greg Sheremeta" <gshereme(a)redhat.com>
> To: "Yair Zaslavsky" <yzaslavs(a)redhat.com>
> Cc: "Itamar Heim" <iheim(a)redhat.com>, devel(a)ovirt.org, "Alon
Bar-Lev"
> <alonbl(a)redhat.com>
> Sent: Friday, August 22, 2014 8:39:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] [ENGINE] thoughts about LinqUtils
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Yair Zaslavsky" <yzaslavs(a)redhat.com>
> > To: "Itamar Heim" <iheim(a)redhat.com>
> > Cc: devel(a)ovirt.org
> > Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2014 8:39:31 PM
> > Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] [ENGINE] thoughts about LinqUtils
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Itamar Heim" <iheim(a)redhat.com>
> > > To: "Yair Zaslavsky" <yzaslavs(a)redhat.com>, "Yevgeny
Zaspitsky"
> > > <yzaspits(a)redhat.com>
> > > Cc: devel(a)ovirt.org
> > > Sent: Friday, August 22, 2014 12:25:52 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] [ENGINE] thoughts about LinqUtils
> > >
> > > On 08/21/2014 09:55 AM, Yair Zaslavsky wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > >> From: "Yevgeny Zaspitsky" <yzaspits(a)redhat.com>
> > > >> To: "Yair Zaslavsky" <yzaslavs(a)redhat.com>
> > > >> Cc: "Moti Asayag" <masayag(a)redhat.com>,
"Allon Mureinik"
> > > >> <amureini(a)redhat.com>, devel(a)ovirt.org
> > > >> Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2014 4:35:33 PM
> > > >> Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] [ENGINE] thoughts about LinqUtils
> > > >>
> > > >> On 21/08/14 12:08, Yair Zaslavsky wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> ----- Original Message -----
> > > >>>> From: "Yevgeny Zaspitsky"
<yzaspits(a)redhat.com>
> > > >>>> To: "Moti Asayag" <masayag(a)redhat.com>
> > > >>>> Cc: "Yair Zaslavsky"
<yzaslavs(a)redhat.com>, "Allon Mureinik"
> > > >>>> <amureini(a)redhat.com>, devel(a)ovirt.org
> > > >>>> Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2014 11:26:40 AM
> > > >>>> Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] [ENGINE] thoughts about
LinqUtils
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> It seems like we can try moving to common-collections4.
Yum on my
> > > >>>> Fedora20
> > > >>>> computer finds apache-commons-collections4 package.
Fortunately
> > > >>>> somebody
> > > >>>> packed the jar into for a rpm for us. :-)
> > > >>> What about RHEL 6.5? Can you please run a quick check?
> > > >> Unfortunately my happiness was too hasty. Only Fedora people care
to
> > > >> be
> > > >> in the forward of the technology... The RHEL ones do not care
about
> > > >> that...
> > > >
> > > > This is what I remembered. When you responded to the email for the
> > > > first
> > > > time , I had a strong deja vu that you tried addressing this issue
> > > > yourself in the past (commons-collectios4) - due to different
reason.
> > > >
> > >
> > > is there a specific conflict or problem (or a huge chain of
> > > dependencies)
> > > ?
> >
> > To me it seems the answer to both is no -
> >
> > This is the requirement list -
> >
> > java >= 1.5
> > jpackage-utils
> > rpmlib(CompressedFileNames) <= 3.0.4-1
> > rpmlib(FileDigests) <= 4.6.0-1
> > rpmlib(PayloadFilesHavePrefix) <= 4.0-1
> > rpmlib(PayloadIsXz) <= 5.2-1
> >
> >
> > Probably a matter of packaging?
>
> IIRC, Alon was the one who replied, and the issue was that Jboss included
> an
> old version (and we don't have classpath isolation, I guess)
>
> Greg
>
We would like to avoid maintaining and package components that are not
provider either by el6 or jboss distribution.
But based on other threads, it seems that I am the only one who remained
trying to push compliance to the old ways, people feel that can maintain
anything anywhere with no effort.
Regards,
Alon
If I may clarify, there would be at least two stipulations for introducing
collections4.
1. someone else packages it and maintains it, available in Fedora and EL,
long term. Quality package.
2. JBoss has proper classloader isolation so that, even though JBoss uses
collections3, a webapp can use collections4.
I don't know the answer to either question :)
Seems like minimal gain to me, though.
Greg