Re: [Engine-devel] REST API calls from the GUI

Hi Daniel, > The first alternative can be implemented by using GWT RequestBuilder (for sending the HTTP requests) > and GWT overlay types (that can be generated from java POJOs). > Probably best performance-wise/less data type conversions/etc; However, basically means writing a JavaScript SDK. Yes, we can use RequestBuilder for making AJAX HTTP requests, but using GWT overlay types is possible only if REST API fully supports JSON format. In case of XML format, we would have to use GWT XMLParser to map "restapi-types" entities/collections to/from XML strings, e.g. we could write GWT deferred binding generators to generate such mappers from current schema. > The benefit of the second alternative is currently rather vague since the Java SDK can't be converted to JavaScript as is > (can't use apache.commons and javax packages in GWT client side). Need to check how easily they can be replaced > with JRE libraries that GWT can emulate (for supporting both GWT web and debug mode). Indeed, we can't use Java REST API SDK as it is with GWT: https://developers.google.com/web-toolkit/doc/latest/RefJreEmulation This means we need to implement our own transport layer (RequestBuilder) and most likely also the marshalling layer (XMLParser vs. JSONParser vs. overlay types). > A third alternative could be simply maintaining the current GWT RPC mechanism we use. > I.e. integrating the Java SDK into the GWT servlet, which means wrapping the API into GenericApiGWTService. > The main drawback is an additional layer of data type conversion and round-trip: > Backend <-> REST <-> Java SDK (servlet) <-> JavaScript (client). This is interesting, generic API could be used to transfer "restapi-types", along with extra information to emulate proper HTTP request, without any marshalling involved. Vojtech ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Erez" <derez(a)redhat.com&gt; To: "Michael Pasternak" <mpastern(a)redhat.com&gt; Cc: engine-devel(a)ovirt.org, "Einav Cohen" <ecohen(a)redhat.com&gt;, arch(a)ovirt.org, "Libor Spevak" <lspevak(a)redhat.com&gt;, "Vojtech Szocs" <vszocs(a)redhat.com&gt; Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 7:17:43 PM Subject: Re: [Engine-devel] REST API calls from the GUI ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael Pasternak" <mpastern(a)redhat.com&gt; > To: "Libor Spevak" <lspevak(a)redhat.com&gt; > Cc: engine-devel(a)ovirt.org, "Daniel Erez" <derez(a)redhat.com&gt;, "Gilad Chaplik" <gchaplik(a)redhat.com&gt;, "Einav Cohen" > <ecohen(a)redhat.com&gt;, arch(a)ovirt.org > Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 12:55:36 PM > Subject: Re: [Engine-devel] REST API calls from the GUI > > > Hi Libor, > > This issue came across in one of the conversations i had with UX > folks, but since we didn't end > up with any conclusion/road map (nor discussed it properly to hear > other thoughts), this is a perfect > place to start this discussion, > > Intuitively REST is a way to go with GWT AJAX calls > --------------------------------------------------- > > pros > ==== > > - api data objects can be reused by generating java classes (using > jaxb) from the rest schema [1] > - no backend logic will be duplicated as api abstracts the backend > exposing RESTful collection/resources to operate on > - development against api is "easy" as api describes itself in RSDL > [2] > > cons > ==== > > - implementing transport layer (HTTP) under GWT > - implementing own j2xml/json/yaml/... marshalling layer > - implementing own error handling mechanism > - implementing REST callback mechanism (in GWT) > - constant maintenance of the data objects generated from the api > - painful for Java developers > > Java-SDK > -------- > > pros > ==== > > - abstracts transport layer (leaving developer in standard Java api) > - typesafe code (no need to mess with XML bulks) > - has own data objects to work with > - abstracts authentication/authorization > (kerberos/cookie/session/etc.) > - since SDK is auto-generated, it can be easily extended with > required > features to support UI (such as callback infrastructure for > instance) > > cons > ==== > > - has to be converted in to Javascript (not sure what the impacts are > in terms of AJAX calls/etc.) > - probably much more cons that we're not aware of and will have to > figure out with POC > > > thoughts? The first alternative can be implemented by using GWT RequestBuilder (for sending the HTTP requests) and GWT overlay types (that can be generated from java POJOs). Probably best performance-wise/less data type conversions/etc; However, basically means writing a JavaScript SDK. The benefit of the second alternative is currently rather vague since the Java SDK can't be converted to JavaScript as is (can't use apache.commons and javax packages in GWT client side). Need to check how easily they can be replaced with JRE libraries that GWT can emulate (for supporting both GWT web and debug mode). A third alternative could be simply maintaining the current GWT RPC mechanism we use. I.e. integrating the Java SDK into the GWT servlet, which means wrapping the API into GenericApiGWTService. The main drawback is an additional layer of data type conversion and round-trip: Backend <-> REST <-> Java SDK (servlet) <-> JavaScript (client). > [1] http[s]://server[:port]/api?schema > [2] http[s]://server[:port]/api?rsdl > > On 02/12/2013 06:13 PM, Libor Spevak wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I would like to ask, if there have been discussions about an option >> to call REST API services directly from the Frontend (GWT layer)? >> GWT compiles Java frontend-side to >> Javascript, calls to backend services are performed "transparently" >> by the framework using AJAX support. But, there is still a need to >> have a special set of data objects >> and the server-side logic can duplicate. >> >> Java REST API SDK enables to build "thick" client. The calls are >> realized using e.g. Apache HttClient and supported libraries. I >> think the requirements of GWT can be a >> little bit different, but something overlaps. >> >> I found several links about REST API support from GWT, so there is >> something for inspiration... >> >> - http://www.spiffyui.org/ >> - http://www.zackgrossbart.com/hackito/gwt-rest/ >> - http://code.google.com/p/gwt-rest/ >> - http://restygwt.fusesource.org/ >> >> But, do you think it would be useful and what drawbacks can occur >> (authentication, authorization, response times, need to support >> larger set of services, painful >> refactoring, ...)? >> >> Regards, >> Libor >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Engine-devel mailing list >> Engine-devel(a)ovirt.org >> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/engine-devel > > -- > > Michael Pasternak > RedHat, ENG-Virtualization R&D