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From: "Lon Hohberger" <lhh(a)redhat.com&gt; To: "Itamar Heim" <iheim(a)redhat.com&gt; Cc: "Eli Mesika" <emesika(a)redhat.com&gt;, "engine-devel" <engine-devel(a)ovirt.org&gt; Sent: Friday, November 16, 2012 7:42:12 PM Subject: Re: [Engine-devel] [Design for 3.2 RFE] Host Power Management Multiple Agent Support On 11/16/2012 11:35 AM, Itamar Heim wrote: > On 11/16/2012 03:06 AM, Eli Mesika wrote: >> >> Requirements: >> http://wiki.ovirt.org/wiki/Features/HostPMMultipleAgents >> DR : >> http://wiki.ovirt.org/wiki/Features/Design/DetailedHostPMMultipleAgents >> _______________________________________________ >> Engine-devel mailing list >> Engine-devel(a)ovirt.org >> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/engine-devel >> > > Lon - thoughts on this? > Looks the first thing that jumps out is that it looks like you can have: - do this one off action && do this one off action - do this one off action || do this one off action So, try device A, and if this fails, try device B - or, if it's really two ports on device A (but two calls), both must succeed. One thing I wonder is whether these use cases are covered. 1) With WTI units and similar, many have two independent power rails. This means that if someone trips over one of the power cables going to the power switch unit, the host will still have power. A || (B && B') ^ ^ ^ | +----+---- WTI dual-rail remote power switch | (two ports used - one on each power rail) | +--------------- iLO / IPMI / etc. 2) More common with the smaller APC units is that most have a single power supply rail. For power redundancy, it's not recommended to ever plug both power supplies in to the same single-rail APC unit. A || (B && C) ^ ^ ^ | | +---- APC device 2 port 1 | +--------- APC device 1 port 1 +--------------- iLO / IPMI / etc. E.g. try the iLO device first, but if that fails, you need to cut off both power supplies (then on). This is presumably less harsh to the machines. I also would not /necessarily/ limit things to two power supplies, but I think two power supplies is the 99% use case. I'll keep looking.

-- Lon

On 11/17/2012 04:14 PM, Eli Mesika wrote: >> I'll keep looking. > > Thanks Lon > I had added those questions in the Feature Talk page : http://wiki.ovirt.org/wiki/Talk:HostPMMultipleAgents > I will discuss those cases with Simon tomorrow and try to answer those questions > Hi, Procedural question - is it preferred that I write comments here, or on the wiki page?

----- Original Message ----- > From: "Itamar Heim" <iheim(a)redhat.com&gt; > To: "Lon Hohberger" <lhh(a)redhat.com&gt; > Cc: "Eli Mesika" <emesika(a)redhat.com&gt;, "engine-devel" <engine-devel(a)ovirt.org&gt; > Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 5:54:07 PM > Subject: Re: [Engine-devel] [Design for 3.2 RFE] Host Power Management Multiple Agent Support > > On 11/19/2012 04:37 PM, Lon Hohberger wrote: >> On 11/17/2012 04:14 PM, Eli Mesika wrote: >> >>>> I'll keep looking. >>> >>> Thanks Lon >>> I had added those questions in the Feature Talk page : >>> http://wiki.ovirt.org/wiki/Talk:HostPMMultipleAgents >>> I will discuss those cases with Simon tomorrow and try to answer >>> those questions >>> >> >> Hi, >> >> Procedural question - is it preferred that I write comments here, >> or on >> the wiki page? > > not sure about others, but i find it easier to track comments on > email > before the conclusion is updated to a wiki Have no problem with that, lets use the email and I will put the summary on the wiki