Small reminder about 0000_config.sql

Hi all, and happy holidays. I would like to give a small reminder about the contents of 0000_config.sql - We are trying to keep an alphabetical order when it comes to the option names (the keys). Thanks, Yair

----- Original Message -----
From: "Yair Zaslavsky" <yzaslavs@redhat.com> To: devel@ovirt.org Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 12:43:37 PM Subject: [ovirt-devel] Small reminder about 0000_config.sql
Hi all, and happy holidays. I would like to give a small reminder about the contents of 0000_config.sql - We are trying to keep an alphabetical order when it comes to the option names (the keys).
We really need to remove this mechanism of config and hold within database only non default values. Default values should go into properties file or even into code. We need someone to take ownership of this ask, I will be happy to instruct.
Thanks,
Yair _______________________________________________ Devel mailing list Devel@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

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From: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl@redhat.com> To: "Yair Zaslavsky" <yzaslavs@redhat.com> Cc: devel@ovirt.org Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 10:45:40 PM Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] Small reminder about 0000_config.sql
----- Original Message -----
From: "Yair Zaslavsky" <yzaslavs@redhat.com> To: devel@ovirt.org Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 12:43:37 PM Subject: [ovirt-devel] Small reminder about 0000_config.sql
Hi all, and happy holidays. I would like to give a small reminder about the contents of 0000_config.sql - We are trying to keep an alphabetical order when it comes to the option names (the keys).
We really need to remove this mechanism of config and hold within database only non default values. Default values should go into properties file or even into code. We need someone to take ownership of this ask, I will be happy to instruct.
Alon, I will be glad to own that (CCing Barak & Oved) , can you please open a oVirt RFE on that ?
Thanks,
Yair _______________________________________________ Devel mailing list Devel@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
_______________________________________________ Devel mailing list Devel@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

----- Original Message -----
From: "Eli Mesika" <emesika@redhat.com> To: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl@redhat.com> Cc: devel@ovirt.org, "Barak Azulay" <bazulay@redhat.com>, "Oved Ourfalli" <oourfali@redhat.com> Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 12:06:38 AM Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] Small reminder about 0000_config.sql
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl@redhat.com> To: "Yair Zaslavsky" <yzaslavs@redhat.com> Cc: devel@ovirt.org Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 10:45:40 PM Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] Small reminder about 0000_config.sql
----- Original Message -----
From: "Yair Zaslavsky" <yzaslavs@redhat.com> To: devel@ovirt.org Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 12:43:37 PM Subject: [ovirt-devel] Small reminder about 0000_config.sql
Hi all, and happy holidays. I would like to give a small reminder about the contents of 0000_config.sql - We are trying to keep an alphabetical order when it comes to the option names (the keys).
We really need to remove this mechanism of config and hold within database only non default values. Default values should go into properties file or even into code. We need someone to take ownership of this ask, I will be happy to instruct.
Alon, I will be glad to own that (CCing Barak & Oved) , can you please open a oVirt RFE on that ?
Thanks! Done[1] [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1089093
Thanks,
Yair _______________________________________________ Devel mailing list Devel@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
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From: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl@redhat.com> To: "Eli Mesika" <emesika@redhat.com> Cc: devel@ovirt.org Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 1:19:41 AM Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] Small reminder about 0000_config.sql
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eli Mesika" <emesika@redhat.com> To: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl@redhat.com> Cc: devel@ovirt.org, "Barak Azulay" <bazulay@redhat.com>, "Oved Ourfalli" <oourfali@redhat.com> Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 12:06:38 AM Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] Small reminder about 0000_config.sql
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl@redhat.com> To: "Yair Zaslavsky" <yzaslavs@redhat.com> Cc: devel@ovirt.org Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 10:45:40 PM Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] Small reminder about 0000_config.sql
----- Original Message -----
From: "Yair Zaslavsky" <yzaslavs@redhat.com> To: devel@ovirt.org Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 12:43:37 PM Subject: [ovirt-devel] Small reminder about 0000_config.sql
Hi all, and happy holidays. I would like to give a small reminder about the contents of 0000_config.sql - We are trying to keep an alphabetical order when it comes to the option names (the keys).
We really need to remove this mechanism of config and hold within database only non default values. Default values should go into properties file or even into code. We need someone to take ownership of this ask, I will be happy to instruct.
Alon, I will be glad to own that (CCing Barak & Oved) , can you please open a oVirt RFE on that ?
Thanks!
Done[1]
Bare in mind default values already exist in code (maybe need to be revisited, but that's something else) at ConfigValues.
Thanks,
Yair _______________________________________________ Devel mailing list Devel@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Yair Zaslavsky" <yzaslavs@redhat.com> To: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl@redhat.com> Cc: "Eli Mesika" <emesika@redhat.com>, devel@ovirt.org Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 4:57:54 AM Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] Small reminder about 0000_config.sql
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl@redhat.com> To: "Eli Mesika" <emesika@redhat.com> Cc: devel@ovirt.org Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 1:19:41 AM Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] Small reminder about 0000_config.sql
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eli Mesika" <emesika@redhat.com> To: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl@redhat.com> Cc: devel@ovirt.org, "Barak Azulay" <bazulay@redhat.com>, "Oved Ourfalli" <oourfali@redhat.com> Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 12:06:38 AM Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] Small reminder about 0000_config.sql
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl@redhat.com> To: "Yair Zaslavsky" <yzaslavs@redhat.com> Cc: devel@ovirt.org Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 10:45:40 PM Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] Small reminder about 0000_config.sql
----- Original Message -----
From: "Yair Zaslavsky" <yzaslavs@redhat.com> To: devel@ovirt.org Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 12:43:37 PM Subject: [ovirt-devel] Small reminder about 0000_config.sql
Hi all, and happy holidays. I would like to give a small reminder about the contents of 0000_config.sql - We are trying to keep an alphabetical order when it comes to the option names (the keys).
We really need to remove this mechanism of config and hold within database only non default values. Default values should go into properties file or even into code. We need someone to take ownership of this ask, I will be happy to instruct.
Alon, I will be glad to own that (CCing Barak & Oved) , can you please open a oVirt RFE on that ?
Thanks!
Done[1]
Bare in mind default values already exist in code (maybe need to be revisited, but that's something else) at ConfigValues.
engine-config cannot set a value to a "default" that exists only in ConfigValues. So in principal you are right, but the entire solution does not support this.
Thanks,
Yair _______________________________________________ Devel mailing list Devel@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
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On Apr 18, 2014, at 09:10 , Alon Bar-Lev <alonbl@redhat.com> wrote:
----- Original Message -----
From: "Yair Zaslavsky" <yzaslavs@redhat.com> To: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl@redhat.com> Cc: "Eli Mesika" <emesika@redhat.com>, devel@ovirt.org Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 4:57:54 AM Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] Small reminder about 0000_config.sql
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl@redhat.com> To: "Eli Mesika" <emesika@redhat.com> Cc: devel@ovirt.org Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 1:19:41 AM Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] Small reminder about 0000_config.sql
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eli Mesika" <emesika@redhat.com> To: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl@redhat.com> Cc: devel@ovirt.org, "Barak Azulay" <bazulay@redhat.com>, "Oved Ourfalli" <oourfali@redhat.com> Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 12:06:38 AM Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] Small reminder about 0000_config.sql
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl@redhat.com> To: "Yair Zaslavsky" <yzaslavs@redhat.com> Cc: devel@ovirt.org Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 10:45:40 PM Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] Small reminder about 0000_config.sql
----- Original Message -----
From: "Yair Zaslavsky" <yzaslavs@redhat.com> To: devel@ovirt.org Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 12:43:37 PM Subject: [ovirt-devel] Small reminder about 0000_config.sql
Hi all, and happy holidays. I would like to give a small reminder about the contents of 0000_config.sql - We are trying to keep an alphabetical order when it comes to the option names (the keys).
We really need to remove this mechanism of config and hold within database only non default values. Default values should go into properties file or even into code. We need someone to take ownership of this ask, I will be happy to instruct.
Alon, I will be glad to own that (CCing Barak & Oved) , can you please open a oVirt RFE on that ?
Thanks!
Done[1]
Bare in mind default values already exist in code (maybe need to be revisited, but that's something else) at ConfigValues.
I'd be more than happy to see all those going away. Many of them are outdated and plain wrong.
engine-config cannot set a value to a "default" that exists only in ConfigValues. So in principal you are right, but the entire solution does not support this.
Thanks,
Yair _______________________________________________ Devel mailing list Devel@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
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From: "Michal Skrivanek" <michal.skrivanek@redhat.com> To: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl@redhat.com>, "Yair Zaslavsky" <yzaslavs@redhat.com> Cc: devel@ovirt.org Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 11:05:48 AM Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] Small reminder about 0000_config.sql
On Apr 18, 2014, at 09:10 , Alon Bar-Lev <alonbl@redhat.com> wrote:
----- Original Message -----
From: "Yair Zaslavsky" <yzaslavs@redhat.com> To: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl@redhat.com> Cc: "Eli Mesika" <emesika@redhat.com>, devel@ovirt.org Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 4:57:54 AM Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] Small reminder about 0000_config.sql
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl@redhat.com> To: "Eli Mesika" <emesika@redhat.com> Cc: devel@ovirt.org Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 1:19:41 AM Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] Small reminder about 0000_config.sql
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eli Mesika" <emesika@redhat.com> To: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl@redhat.com> Cc: devel@ovirt.org, "Barak Azulay" <bazulay@redhat.com>, "Oved Ourfalli" <oourfali@redhat.com> Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 12:06:38 AM Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] Small reminder about 0000_config.sql
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl@redhat.com> To: "Yair Zaslavsky" <yzaslavs@redhat.com> Cc: devel@ovirt.org Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 10:45:40 PM Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] Small reminder about 0000_config.sql
----- Original Message ----- > From: "Yair Zaslavsky" <yzaslavs@redhat.com> > To: devel@ovirt.org > Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 12:43:37 PM > Subject: [ovirt-devel] Small reminder about 0000_config.sql > > Hi all, and happy holidays. > I would like to give a small reminder about the contents of > 0000_config.sql > - > We are trying to keep an alphabetical order when it comes to the > option > names > (the keys).
I think we should order/maintain the options by topic (network, storage, console, etc.), we can order alphabetically within topics but IMO pointless. Does someone really lookup alphabetically?
We really need to remove this mechanism of config and hold within database only non default values. Default values should go into properties file or even into code. We need someone to take ownership of this ask, I will be happy to instruct.
Alon, I will be glad to own that (CCing Barak & Oved) , can you please open a oVirt RFE on that ?
Thanks!
Done[1]
Bare in mind default values already exist in code (maybe need to be revisited, but that's something else) at ConfigValues.
I'd be more than happy to see all those going away. Many of them are outdated and plain wrong.
engine-config cannot set a value to a "default" that exists only in ConfigValues. So in principal you are right, but the entire solution does not support this.
> > Thanks, > > Yair > _______________________________________________ > Devel mailing list > Devel@ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/devel > _______________________________________________ Devel mailing list Devel@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
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From: "Gilad Chaplik" <gchaplik@redhat.com> To: "Michal Skrivanek" <michal.skrivanek@redhat.com> Cc: devel@ovirt.org Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 12:59:48 PM Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] Small reminder about 0000_config.sql
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From: "Michal Skrivanek" <michal.skrivanek@redhat.com> To: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl@redhat.com>, "Yair Zaslavsky" <yzaslavs@redhat.com> Cc: devel@ovirt.org Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 11:05:48 AM Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] Small reminder about 0000_config.sql
On Apr 18, 2014, at 09:10 , Alon Bar-Lev <alonbl@redhat.com> wrote:
----- Original Message -----
From: "Yair Zaslavsky" <yzaslavs@redhat.com> To: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl@redhat.com> Cc: "Eli Mesika" <emesika@redhat.com>, devel@ovirt.org Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 4:57:54 AM Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] Small reminder about 0000_config.sql
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl@redhat.com> To: "Eli Mesika" <emesika@redhat.com> Cc: devel@ovirt.org Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 1:19:41 AM Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] Small reminder about 0000_config.sql
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eli Mesika" <emesika@redhat.com> To: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl@redhat.com> Cc: devel@ovirt.org, "Barak Azulay" <bazulay@redhat.com>, "Oved Ourfalli" <oourfali@redhat.com> Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 12:06:38 AM Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] Small reminder about 0000_config.sql
----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl@redhat.com> > To: "Yair Zaslavsky" <yzaslavs@redhat.com> > Cc: devel@ovirt.org > Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 10:45:40 PM > Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] Small reminder about 0000_config.sql > > > > ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Yair Zaslavsky" <yzaslavs@redhat.com> >> To: devel@ovirt.org >> Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 12:43:37 PM >> Subject: [ovirt-devel] Small reminder about 0000_config.sql >> >> Hi all, and happy holidays. >> I would like to give a small reminder about the contents of >> 0000_config.sql >> - >> We are trying to keep an alphabetical order when it comes to the >> option >> names >> (the keys).
I think we should order/maintain the options by topic (network, storage, console, etc.), we can order alphabetically within topics but IMO pointless. Does someone really lookup alphabetically?
Maybe use a 3 letter prefix for subject and then the sorting makes sense ?
> > We really need to remove this mechanism of config and hold within > database > only non default values. > Default values should go into properties file or even into code. > We need someone to take ownership of this ask, I will be happy to > instruct.
Alon, I will be glad to own that (CCing Barak & Oved) , can you please open a oVirt RFE on that ?
Thanks!
Done[1]
Bare in mind default values already exist in code (maybe need to be revisited, but that's something else) at ConfigValues.
I'd be more than happy to see all those going away. Many of them are outdate and plain wrong.
engine-config cannot set a value to a "default" that exists only in ConfigValues. So in principal you are right, but the entire solution does not support this.
> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Yair >> _______________________________________________ >> Devel mailing list >> Devel@ovirt.org >> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/devel >> > _______________________________________________ > Devel mailing list > Devel@ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/devel >
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Eli Mesika" <emesika@redhat.com> To: "Gilad Chaplik" <gchaplik@redhat.com> Cc: "Michal Skrivanek" <michal.skrivanek@redhat.com>, devel@ovirt.org Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2014 1:11:44 AM Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] Small reminder about 0000_config.sql
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From: "Gilad Chaplik" <gchaplik@redhat.com> To: "Michal Skrivanek" <michal.skrivanek@redhat.com> Cc: devel@ovirt.org Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 12:59:48 PM Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] Small reminder about 0000_config.sql
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michal Skrivanek" <michal.skrivanek@redhat.com> To: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl@redhat.com>, "Yair Zaslavsky" <yzaslavs@redhat.com> Cc: devel@ovirt.org Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 11:05:48 AM Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] Small reminder about 0000_config.sql
On Apr 18, 2014, at 09:10 , Alon Bar-Lev <alonbl@redhat.com> wrote:
----- Original Message -----
From: "Yair Zaslavsky" <yzaslavs@redhat.com> To: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl@redhat.com> Cc: "Eli Mesika" <emesika@redhat.com>, devel@ovirt.org Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 4:57:54 AM Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] Small reminder about 0000_config.sql
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl@redhat.com> To: "Eli Mesika" <emesika@redhat.com> Cc: devel@ovirt.org Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 1:19:41 AM Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] Small reminder about 0000_config.sql
----- Original Message ----- > From: "Eli Mesika" <emesika@redhat.com> > To: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl@redhat.com> > Cc: devel@ovirt.org, "Barak Azulay" <bazulay@redhat.com>, "Oved > Ourfalli" > <oourfali@redhat.com> > Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 12:06:38 AM > Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] Small reminder about 0000_config.sql > > > > ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl@redhat.com> >> To: "Yair Zaslavsky" <yzaslavs@redhat.com> >> Cc: devel@ovirt.org >> Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 10:45:40 PM >> Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] Small reminder about 0000_config.sql >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Yair Zaslavsky" <yzaslavs@redhat.com> >>> To: devel@ovirt.org >>> Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 12:43:37 PM >>> Subject: [ovirt-devel] Small reminder about 0000_config.sql >>> >>> Hi all, and happy holidays. >>> I would like to give a small reminder about the contents of >>> 0000_config.sql >>> - >>> We are trying to keep an alphabetical order when it comes to the >>> option >>> names >>> (the keys).
I think we should order/maintain the options by topic (network, storage, console, etc.), we can order alphabetically within topics but IMO pointless. Does someone really lookup alphabetically?
Maybe use a 3 letter prefix for subject and then the sorting makes sense ?
+1 :-)
>> >> We really need to remove this mechanism of config and hold within >> database >> only non default values. >> Default values should go into properties file or even into code. >> We need someone to take ownership of this ask, I will be happy to >> instruct. > > Alon, I will be glad to own that (CCing Barak & Oved) , can you > please > open > a > oVirt RFE on that ?
Thanks!
Done[1]
Bare in mind default values already exist in code (maybe need to be revisited, but that's something else) at ConfigValues.
I'd be more than happy to see all those going away. Many of them are outdate and plain wrong.
engine-config cannot set a value to a "default" that exists only in ConfigValues. So in principal you are right, but the entire solution does not support this.
> >> >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Yair >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Devel mailing list >>> Devel@ovirt.org >>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/devel >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Devel mailing list >> Devel@ovirt.org >> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/devel >> > _______________________________________________ Devel mailing list Devel@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl@redhat.com> To: "Eli Mesika" <emesika@redhat.com> Cc: devel@ovirt.org Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 1:19:41 AM Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] Small reminder about 0000_config.sql
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eli Mesika" <emesika@redhat.com> To: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl@redhat.com> Cc: devel@ovirt.org, "Barak Azulay" <bazulay@redhat.com>, "Oved Ourfalli" <oourfali@redhat.com> Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 12:06:38 AM Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] Small reminder about 0000_config.sql
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl@redhat.com> To: "Yair Zaslavsky" <yzaslavs@redhat.com> Cc: devel@ovirt.org Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 10:45:40 PM Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] Small reminder about 0000_config.sql
----- Original Message -----
From: "Yair Zaslavsky" <yzaslavs@redhat.com> To: devel@ovirt.org Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 12:43:37 PM Subject: [ovirt-devel] Small reminder about 0000_config.sql
Hi all, and happy holidays. I would like to give a small reminder about the contents of 0000_config.sql - We are trying to keep an alphabetical order when it comes to the option names (the keys).
We really need to remove this mechanism of config and hold within database only non default values. Default values should go into properties file or even into code. We need someone to take ownership of this ask, I will be happy to instruct.
Alon, I will be glad to own that (CCing Barak & Oved) , can you please open a oVirt RFE on that ?
Thanks!
Done[1]
How would it combine with the auto-reloadable feature [1] ? (was nacked ages ago) [1] www.ovirt.org/Features/ReloadableConfiguration
Thanks,
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From: "Moti Asayag" <masayag@redhat.com> To: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl@redhat.com> Cc: "Eli Mesika" <emesika@redhat.com>, devel@ovirt.org Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2014 10:36:54 PM Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] Small reminder about 0000_config.sql
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From: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl@redhat.com> To: "Eli Mesika" <emesika@redhat.com> Cc: devel@ovirt.org Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 1:19:41 AM Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] Small reminder about 0000_config.sql
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From: "Eli Mesika" <emesika@redhat.com> To: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl@redhat.com> Cc: devel@ovirt.org, "Barak Azulay" <bazulay@redhat.com>, "Oved Ourfalli" <oourfali@redhat.com> Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 12:06:38 AM Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] Small reminder about 0000_config.sql
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From: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl@redhat.com> To: "Yair Zaslavsky" <yzaslavs@redhat.com> Cc: devel@ovirt.org Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 10:45:40 PM Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] Small reminder about 0000_config.sql
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From: "Yair Zaslavsky" <yzaslavs@redhat.com> To: devel@ovirt.org Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 12:43:37 PM Subject: [ovirt-devel] Small reminder about 0000_config.sql
Hi all, and happy holidays. I would like to give a small reminder about the contents of 0000_config.sql - We are trying to keep an alphabetical order when it comes to the option names (the keys).
We really need to remove this mechanism of config and hold within database only non default values. Default values should go into properties file or even into code. We need someone to take ownership of this ask, I will be happy to instruct.
Alon, I will be glad to own that (CCing Barak & Oved) , can you please open a oVirt RFE on that ?
Thanks!
Done[1]
How would it combine with the auto-reloadable feature [1] ? (was nacked ages ago)
Use the restapi to set non persistent configuration for subset of the keys?
[1] www.ovirt.org/Features/ReloadableConfiguration
Thanks,
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From: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl@redhat.com> To: "Moti Asayag" <masayag@redhat.com> Cc: "Eli Mesika" <emesika@redhat.com>, devel@ovirt.org Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2014 10:47:04 PM Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] Small reminder about 0000_config.sql
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From: "Moti Asayag" <masayag@redhat.com> To: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl@redhat.com> Cc: "Eli Mesika" <emesika@redhat.com>, devel@ovirt.org Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2014 10:36:54 PM Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] Small reminder about 0000_config.sql
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From: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl@redhat.com> To: "Eli Mesika" <emesika@redhat.com> Cc: devel@ovirt.org Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 1:19:41 AM Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] Small reminder about 0000_config.sql
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From: "Eli Mesika" <emesika@redhat.com> To: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl@redhat.com> Cc: devel@ovirt.org, "Barak Azulay" <bazulay@redhat.com>, "Oved Ourfalli" <oourfali@redhat.com> Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 12:06:38 AM Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] Small reminder about 0000_config.sql
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From: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl@redhat.com> To: "Yair Zaslavsky" <yzaslavs@redhat.com> Cc: devel@ovirt.org Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 10:45:40 PM Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] Small reminder about 0000_config.sql
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From: "Yair Zaslavsky" <yzaslavs@redhat.com> To: devel@ovirt.org Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 12:43:37 PM Subject: [ovirt-devel] Small reminder about 0000_config.sql
Hi all, and happy holidays. I would like to give a small reminder about the contents of 0000_config.sql - We are trying to keep an alphabetical order when it comes to the option names (the keys).
We really need to remove this mechanism of config and hold within database only non default values. Default values should go into properties file or even into code. We need someone to take ownership of this ask, I will be happy to instruct.
Alon, I will be glad to own that (CCing Barak & Oved) , can you please open a oVirt RFE on that ?
Thanks!
Done[1]
How would it combine with the auto-reloadable feature [1] ? (was nacked ages ago)
Use the restapi to set non persistent configuration for subset of the keys?
I'm wearing the "Captain Obvious" hat for a second, just for laying more context to my question: If the engine-config remains as the measure for the user to alter configuration values, there should be a mean to reflect the changes to the engine without restarting the service. How rest takes place in this scenario ? Do you imply it (rest call) should be invoked by the engine-config ? Meaning, the engine-config will update the configuration file and will send a request for the engine to reload the configuration values from that file ? Another (generic) question - how does a local configuration file (vs DB) integrate with HA solution for ovirt-engine ?
[1] www.ovirt.org/Features/ReloadableConfiguration
Thanks,
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From: "Moti Asayag" <masayag@redhat.com> To: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl@redhat.com> Cc: "Eli Mesika" <emesika@redhat.com>, devel@ovirt.org Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2014 11:20:25 PM Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] Small reminder about 0000_config.sql
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From: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl@redhat.com> To: "Moti Asayag" <masayag@redhat.com> Cc: "Eli Mesika" <emesika@redhat.com>, devel@ovirt.org Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2014 10:47:04 PM Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] Small reminder about 0000_config.sql
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From: "Moti Asayag" <masayag@redhat.com> To: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl@redhat.com> Cc: "Eli Mesika" <emesika@redhat.com>, devel@ovirt.org Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2014 10:36:54 PM Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] Small reminder about 0000_config.sql
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From: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl@redhat.com> To: "Eli Mesika" <emesika@redhat.com> Cc: devel@ovirt.org Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 1:19:41 AM Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] Small reminder about 0000_config.sql
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From: "Eli Mesika" <emesika@redhat.com> To: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl@redhat.com> Cc: devel@ovirt.org, "Barak Azulay" <bazulay@redhat.com>, "Oved Ourfalli" <oourfali@redhat.com> Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 12:06:38 AM Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] Small reminder about 0000_config.sql
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From: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl@redhat.com> To: "Yair Zaslavsky" <yzaslavs@redhat.com> Cc: devel@ovirt.org Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 10:45:40 PM Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] Small reminder about 0000_config.sql
----- Original Message ----- > From: "Yair Zaslavsky" <yzaslavs@redhat.com> > To: devel@ovirt.org > Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 12:43:37 PM > Subject: [ovirt-devel] Small reminder about 0000_config.sql > > Hi all, and happy holidays. > I would like to give a small reminder about the contents of > 0000_config.sql > - > We are trying to keep an alphabetical order when it comes to the > option > names > (the keys).
We really need to remove this mechanism of config and hold within database only non default values. Default values should go into properties file or even into code. We need someone to take ownership of this ask, I will be happy to instruct.
Alon, I will be glad to own that (CCing Barak & Oved) , can you please open a oVirt RFE on that ?
Thanks!
Done[1]
How would it combine with the auto-reloadable feature [1] ? (was nacked ages ago)
Use the restapi to set non persistent configuration for subset of the keys?
I'm wearing the "Captain Obvious" hat for a second, just for laying more context to my question: If the engine-config remains as the measure for the user to alter configuration values, there should be a mean to reflect the changes to the engine without restarting the service.
How rest takes place in this scenario ? Do you imply it (rest call) should be invoked by the engine-config ? Meaning, the engine-config will update the configuration file and will send a request for the engine to reload the configuration values from that file ?
I do not imply anything at this point, I just want to remove the defaults from vdc_options and the duplications of sources. But... if you asked... what I thought is to have: engine-config --persist option=value - to database engine-config option=value - via restapi User who wants to set persistent and non runtime should invoke both, or we create shortcut. Also, there should be no requirement to support the entire configuration as non persistent, due to the complexity of the implementation. So only selected options should be marked for runtime change.
Another (generic) question - how does a local configuration file (vs DB) integrate with HA solution for ovirt-engine ?
The configuration of non default setting will be in database, please review the bug[1]. The defaults are set within distribution, and distribution should be synced across all nodes of cluster. So there is no problem with high availability solution. BTW: even with files there is no actual problem as the filesystem that holds the data can also be on shared storage, but this is not the case. Regards, Alon [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1089093
[1] www.ovirt.org/Features/ReloadableConfiguration
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On 04/23/2014 10:36 PM, Moti Asayag wrote:
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From: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl@redhat.com> To: "Eli Mesika" <emesika@redhat.com> Cc: devel@ovirt.org Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 1:19:41 AM Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] Small reminder about 0000_config.sql
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From: "Eli Mesika" <emesika@redhat.com> To: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl@redhat.com> Cc: devel@ovirt.org, "Barak Azulay" <bazulay@redhat.com>, "Oved Ourfalli" <oourfali@redhat.com> Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 12:06:38 AM Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] Small reminder about 0000_config.sql
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl@redhat.com> To: "Yair Zaslavsky" <yzaslavs@redhat.com> Cc: devel@ovirt.org Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 10:45:40 PM Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] Small reminder about 0000_config.sql
----- Original Message -----
From: "Yair Zaslavsky" <yzaslavs@redhat.com> To: devel@ovirt.org Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 12:43:37 PM Subject: [ovirt-devel] Small reminder about 0000_config.sql
Hi all, and happy holidays. I would like to give a small reminder about the contents of 0000_config.sql - We are trying to keep an alphabetical order when it comes to the option names (the keys).
We really need to remove this mechanism of config and hold within database only non default values. Default values should go into properties file or even into code. We need someone to take ownership of this ask, I will be happy to instruct.
Alon, I will be glad to own that (CCing Barak & Oved) , can you please open a oVirt RFE on that ?
Thanks!
Done[1]
How would it combine with the auto-reloadable feature [1] ? (was nacked ages ago)
[1] www.ovirt.org/Features/ReloadableConfiguration
iirc, it was nacked only since the configuration wasn't modeled yet in the REST API to have the operation on the right entity.

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From: "Itamar Heim" <iheim@redhat.com> To: "Moti Asayag" <masayag@redhat.com>, "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl@redhat.com> Cc: devel@ovirt.org Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2014 8:45:14 AM Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] Small reminder about 0000_config.sql
On 04/23/2014 10:36 PM, Moti Asayag wrote:
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From: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl@redhat.com> To: "Eli Mesika" <emesika@redhat.com> Cc: devel@ovirt.org Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 1:19:41 AM Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] Small reminder about 0000_config.sql
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From: "Eli Mesika" <emesika@redhat.com> To: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl@redhat.com> Cc: devel@ovirt.org, "Barak Azulay" <bazulay@redhat.com>, "Oved Ourfalli" <oourfali@redhat.com> Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 12:06:38 AM Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] Small reminder about 0000_config.sql
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl@redhat.com> To: "Yair Zaslavsky" <yzaslavs@redhat.com> Cc: devel@ovirt.org Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 10:45:40 PM Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] Small reminder about 0000_config.sql
----- Original Message -----
From: "Yair Zaslavsky" <yzaslavs@redhat.com> To: devel@ovirt.org Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 12:43:37 PM Subject: [ovirt-devel] Small reminder about 0000_config.sql
Hi all, and happy holidays. I would like to give a small reminder about the contents of 0000_config.sql - We are trying to keep an alphabetical order when it comes to the option names (the keys).
We really need to remove this mechanism of config and hold within database only non default values. Default values should go into properties file or even into code. We need someone to take ownership of this ask, I will be happy to instruct.
Alon, I will be glad to own that (CCing Barak & Oved) , can you please open a oVirt RFE on that ?
Thanks!
Done[1]
How would it combine with the auto-reloadable feature [1] ? (was nacked ages ago)
[1] www.ovirt.org/Features/ReloadableConfiguration
iirc, it was nacked only since the configuration wasn't modeled yet in the REST API to have the operation on the right entity.
Well, the entity could have been "Configuration"... :)
participants (7)
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Alon Bar-Lev
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Eli Mesika
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Gilad Chaplik
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Itamar Heim
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Michal Skrivanek
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Moti Asayag
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Yair Zaslavsky