Developers, I had not tried oVirt in a while and recently downloaded it and installed it. I noticed it is using the beta-ware/non-production CentOS Stream now. Is there any movement afoot to adopt Alma Linux or Rocky Linux so that it has an actual production distribution to run on? It seems a very nice environment and quite a shame to poison that environment with a non-production distribution underpinning it. What say you? Stuart
I would have discussed this in user mailing list rather than in development mailing list. Anyway, you're welcome to run oVirt on RHEL, Alma, Rocky, Oracle, it should work perfectly fine on RHEL 8.6 and derivatives. Prerequisite for using them: https://ovirt.org/download/install_on_rhel.html We are using CentOS Stream as a development platform as it will give us insight on what will come next. But for a production environment it's totally fine not using CentOS Stream. Il giorno lun 16 mag 2022 alle ore 16:50 <stuart.tener@bh90210.net> ha scritto:
Developers,
I had not tried oVirt in a while and recently downloaded it and installed it. I noticed it is using the beta-ware/non-production CentOS Stream now. Is there any movement afoot to adopt Alma Linux or Rocky Linux so that it has an actual production distribution to run on? It seems a very nice environment and quite a shame to poison that environment with a non-production distribution underpinning it.
What say you?
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Sandro, I am sorry for picking the wrong forum to post into, it seemed a naturally correct place because I was suggesting a shift in the development choices being made for oVirt and how it is produced. I hear what you are saying. However, that means that all the ISOs that are published for people to download based on CentOS are going to be viewed by the Linux community that has an interest in trying oVirt as a potential learning path to RHV as alpha/beta quality. CentOS since "going upstream" has been heavily devalued by the open source community for useful testing or any real work. Again, that is just a fact or people would not be in a mad rush to move to Rocky Linux or Alma Linux. At any rate, just my two cents worth which may be all my opinion is worth! :) I am not trying to be argumentative, just I think that supplying oVirt using an underpinning OS that is quality based as opposed to CentOS would be a worthy endeavor to encourage interest in oVirt. Although I have not had a chance to gather and post the facts together, I did try to do an install of it in my ProxMox virtualized environment (again for testing) and met with a number of issues causing a failed installation and eventually gave up. Now that I realize it is CentOS based, I am not even think it is worth dealing with as the result will not be a production quality install. I will read the link you provided regarding installing oVirt on REL or a "derivative clone". Thanks for your most brisk and thoughtful response and I wish you a healthy and safe day in these challenging times. Stuart
Il giorno lun 16 mag 2022 alle ore 18:09 <stuart.tener@bh90210.net> ha scritto:
Sandro,
I am sorry for picking the wrong forum to post into, it seemed a naturally correct place because I was suggesting a shift in the development choices being made for oVirt and how it is produced.
I hear what you are saying. However, that means that all the ISOs that are published for people to download based on CentOS are going to be viewed by the Linux community that has an interest in trying oVirt as a potential learning path to RHV as alpha/beta quality. CentOS since "going upstream" has been heavily devalued by the open source community for useful testing or any real work. Again, that is just a fact or people would not be in a mad rush to move to Rocky Linux or Alma Linux. At any rate, just my two cents worth which may be all my opinion is worth! :)
I am not trying to be argumentative, just I think that supplying oVirt using an underpinning OS that is quality based as opposed to CentOS would be a worthy endeavor to encourage interest in oVirt.
Although I have not had a chance to gather and post the facts together, I did try to do an install of it in my ProxMox virtualized environment (again for testing) and met with a number of issues causing a failed installation and eventually gave up. Now that I realize it is CentOS based, I am not even think it is worth dealing with as the result will not be a production quality install. I will read the link you provided regarding installing oVirt on REL or a "derivative clone".
Thanks for your most brisk and thoughtful response and I wish you a healthy and safe day in these challenging times.
With regards to ISOs and appliance, I got in touch with both Alma Linux and Rocky Linux explaining how to build an oVirt Node ISO based on their own repositories so they can ship them through their mirrors. Also discussed on https://lists.ovirt.org/archives/list/users@ovirt.org/message/LLKJKW22FAYPY2... Issue is we lack capacity and resources for rebuilding oVirt for all possible CentOS Stream derivatives. So I would be happy to help Rocky and Alma rebuild their own flavor of oVirt Node but we can't really commit to maintaining those builds and keeping them tested. -- Sandro Bonazzola MANAGER, SOFTWARE ENGINEERING, EMEA R&D RHV Red Hat EMEA <https://www.redhat.com/> sbonazzo@redhat.com <https://www.redhat.com/> *Red Hat respects your work life balance. Therefore there is no need to answer this email out of your office hours.*
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