[Engine-devel] network - UI Sync meeting

--=_7d9c71d1-271b-4875-aea3-66898edcc4c8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The following meeting has been modified: Subject: network - UI Sync meeting Organizer: "Roy Golan" <rgolan@redhat.com> Time: Monday, February 27, 2012, 4:00:00 PM - 5:00:00 PM GMT +02:00 Jerusalem [MODIFIED] Invitees: mkenneth@redhat.com; sgrinber@redhat.com; lpeer@redhat.com; dfediuck@redhat.com; drankevi@redhat.com; ecohen@redhat.com; iheim@redhat.com; ovedo@redhat.com; acathrow@redhat.com; engine-devel@ovirt.org; kroberts@redhat.com ... *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* Follow-up meeting on setup networks UI. issues to follow: 1. can VDSM attach many non-vlan and many vlan networks to a single nic? (Dan - please reply if its doable) 2. if yes is the UI breakdown of vlan/non-vlan is probably not necessary? open issues: 1.should we use "VmNetwork"? (or "allow/able to run VMs" you name it) would it be a DC or a Cluster property? 2.should we implicitly set bridge/bridgeless when attaching a network with setupnetworks? 3.nickless networks - was that planned for this version? VDSM support it already but we are missing the UI and Backend for it. Bridge ID: 1814335863 https://www.intercallonline.com/portlets/scheduling/viewNumbers/listNumbersB... --=_7d9c71d1-271b-4875-aea3-66898edcc4c8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <html><body><h3>The following meeting has been modified:</h3> <p> <table border='0'> <tr><th align=left>Subject:</th><td>network - UI Sync meeting </td></tr> <tr><th align=left>Organizer:</th><td>"Roy Golan" <rgolan@redhat.com> </td></tr> </table> <p> <table border='0'> <tr><th align=left>Time:</th><td>Monday, February 27, 2012, 4:00:00 PM - 5:00:00 PM GMT +02:00 Jerusalem [MODIFIED] </td></tr></table> <p> <table border='0'> <tr><th align=left>Invitees:</th><td>mkenneth@redhat.com; sgrinber@redhat.com; lpeer@redhat.com; dfediuck@redhat.com; drankevi@redhat.com; ecohen@redhat.com; iheim@redhat.com; ovedo@redhat.com; acathrow@redhat.com; engine-devel@ovirt.org; kroberts@redhat.com ... </td></tr> </table> <div>*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*</div><br><br>Follow-up meeting on setup networks UI. <br>issues to follow: <br>1. can VDSM attach many non-vlan and many vlan networks to a single nic? (Dan - please reply if its doable)<br>2. if yes is the UI breakdown of vlan/non-vlan is probably not necessary? <br><br><br>open issues:<br>1.should we use "VmNetwork"? (or "allow/able to run VMs" you name it) would it be a DC or a Cluster property?<br>2.should we implicitly set bridge/bridgeless when attaching a network with setupnetworks?<br>3.nickless networks - was that planned for this version? VDSM support it already but we are missing the UI and Backend for it.<br><br><br>Bridge ID: 1814335863 <br><br>https://www.intercallonline.com/portlets/scheduling/viewNumbers/listNumbersB... </body></html> --=_7d9c71d1-271b-4875-aea3-66898edcc4c8 Content-Type: text/calendar; charset=utf-8; method=REQUEST; name=meeting.ics Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit BEGIN:VCALENDAR PRODID:Zimbra-Calendar-Provider VERSION:2.0 METHOD:REQUEST BEGIN:VTIMEZONE TZID:Asia/Jerusalem BEGIN:STANDARD DTSTART:19710101T020000 TZOFFSETTO:+0200 TZOFFSETFROM:+0300 RRULE:FREQ=YEARLY;WKST=MO;INTERVAL=1;BYMONTH=9;BYDAY=2SU TZNAME:IST END:STANDARD BEGIN:DAYLIGHT DTSTART:19710101T020000 TZOFFSETTO:+0300 TZOFFSETFROM:+0200 RRULE:FREQ=YEARLY;WKST=MO;INTERVAL=1;BYMONTH=3;BYDAY=-1FR TZNAME:IDT END:DAYLIGHT END:VTIMEZONE BEGIN:VEVENT UID:e6d6ce3a-e7f1-492b-9c52-65365ce2e235 SUMMARY:network - UI Sync meeting ATTENDEE;CN=Miki Kenneth;ROLE=REQ-PARTICIPANT;PARTSTAT=NEEDS-ACTION;RSVP=TRU E:mailto:mkenneth@redhat.com ATTENDEE;CN=Simon Grinberg;ROLE=REQ-PARTICIPANT;PARTSTAT=NEEDS-ACTION;RSVP=T RUE:mailto:sgrinber@redhat.com ATTENDEE;CN=Livnat Peer;ROLE=REQ-PARTICIPANT;PARTSTAT=NEEDS-ACTION;RSVP=TRUE :mailto:lpeer@redhat.com ATTENDEE;CN=Doron Fediuck;ROLE=REQ-PARTICIPANT;PARTSTAT=NEEDS-ACTION;RSVP=TR UE:mailto:dfediuck@redhat.com ATTENDEE;CN=Danny Rankevich;ROLE=REQ-PARTICIPANT;PARTSTAT=NEEDS-ACTION;RSVP= TRUE:mailto:drankevi@redhat.com ATTENDEE;CN=Einav Cohen;ROLE=REQ-PARTICIPANT;PARTSTAT=NEEDS-ACTION;RSVP=TRUE :mailto:ecohen@redhat.com ATTENDEE;CN=Itamar Heim;ROLE=REQ-PARTICIPANT;PARTSTAT=NEEDS-ACTION;RSVP=TRUE :mailto:iheim@redhat.com ATTENDEE;CN=Oved Ourfalli;ROLE=REQ-PARTICIPANT;PARTSTAT=NEEDS-ACTION;RSVP=TR UE:mailto:ovedo@redhat.com ATTENDEE;CN=Andrew Cathrow;ROLE=REQ-PARTICIPANT;PARTSTAT=NEEDS-ACTION;RSVP=T RUE:mailto:acathrow@redhat.com ATTENDEE;CN=engine-devel;ROLE=REQ-PARTICIPANT;PARTSTAT=NEEDS-ACTION;RSVP=TRU E:mailto:engine-devel@ovirt.org ATTENDEE;CN=Keith Robertson;ROLE=REQ-PARTICIPANT;PARTSTAT=NEEDS-ACTION;RSVP= TRUE:mailto:kroberts@redhat.com ATTENDEE;CN=William Henry;ROLE=REQ-PARTICIPANT;PARTSTAT=NEEDS-ACTION;RSVP=TR UE:mailto:whenry@redhat.com ORGANIZER;CN=Roy Golan:mailto:rgolan@redhat.com DTSTART;TZID="Asia/Jerusalem":20120227T160000 DTEND;TZID="Asia/Jerusalem":20120227T170000 STATUS:CONFIRMED CLASS:PUBLIC X-MICROSOFT-CDO-INTENDEDSTATUS:BUSY TRANSP:OPAQUE LAST-MODIFIED:20120222T001540Z DTSTAMP:20120222T001540Z SEQUENCE:1 DESCRIPTION:The following meeting has been modified:\n\nSubject: network - U I Sync meeting \nOrganizer: "Roy Golan" <rgolan@redhat.com> \n\nTime: Monday \, February 27\, 2012\, 4:00:00 PM - 5:00:00 PM GMT +02:00 Jerusalem [MODIFI ED]\n \nInvitees: mkenneth@redhat.com\; sgrinber@redhat.com\; lpeer@redhat.c om\; dfediuck@redhat.com\; drankevi@redhat.com\; ecohen@redhat.com\; iheim@r edhat.com\; ovedo@redhat.com\; acathrow@redhat.com\; engine-devel@ovirt.org\ ; kroberts@redhat.com ... \n\n\n*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*\n\n\nFollow-up meeting o n setup networks UI. \nissues to follow: \n1. can VDSM attach many non-vlan and many vlan networks to a single nic? (Dan - please reply if its doable)\n 2. if yes is the UI breakdown of vlan/non-vlan is probably not necessary? \n \n\nopen issues:\n1.should we use "VmNetwork"? (or "allow/able to run VMs" y ou name it) would it be a DC or a Cluster property?\n2.should we implicitly set bridge/bridgeless when attaching a network with setupnetworks?\n3.nickle ss networks - was that planned for this version? VDSM support it already but we are missing the UI and Backend for it.\n\n\nBridge ID: 1814335863 \n\nht tps://www.intercallonline.com/portlets/scheduling/viewNumbers/listNumbersByC ode.do?confCode=1814335863 X-ALT-DESC;FMTTYPE=text/html:<html><body><h3>The following meeting has been modified:</h3>\n\n<p>\n<table border='0'>\n<tr><th align=left>Subject:</th>< td>network - UI Sync meeting </td></tr>\n<tr><th align=left>Organizer:</th>< td>"Roy Golan" <\;rgolan@redhat.com>\; </td></tr>\n</table>\n<p>\n<table border='0'>\n<tr><th align=left>Time:</th><td>Monday\, February 27\, 2012\, 4:00:00 PM - 5:00:00 PM GMT +02:00 Jerusalem [MODIFIED]\n </td></tr></table
\n<p>\n<table border='0'>\n<tr><th align=left>Invitees:</th><td>mkenneth@re dhat.com\; sgrinber@redhat.com\; lpeer@redhat.com\; dfediuck@redhat.com\; dr ankevi@redhat.com\; ecohen@redhat.com\; iheim@redhat.com\; ovedo@redhat.com\ ; acathrow@redhat.com\; engine-devel@ovirt.org\; kroberts@redhat.com ... </t d></tr>\n</table>\n<div>*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*</div><br><br>Follow-up meeting o n setup networks UI. <br>issues to follow: <br>1. can VDSM attach many non-v lan and many vlan networks to a single nic? (Dan - please reply if its doabl e)<br>2. if yes is the UI breakdown of vlan/non-vlan is probably not necessa ry? <br><br><br>open issues:<br>1.should we use "VmNetwork"? (or "allow/able to run VMs" you name it) would it be a DC or a Cluster property?<br>2.shoul d we implicitly set bridge/bridgeless when attaching a network with setupnet works?<br>3.nickless networks - was that planned for this version? VDSM supp ort it already but we are missing the UI and Backend for it.<br><br><br>Brid ge ID: 1814335863 <br><br>https://www.intercallonline.com/portlets/schedulin g/viewNumbers/listNumbersByCode.do?confCode=1814335863 </body></html> BEGIN:VALARM ACTION:DISPLAY TRIGGER;RELATED=START:-PT5M DESCRIPTION:Reminder END:VALARM END:VEVENT END:VCALENDAR --=_7d9c71d1-271b-4875-aea3-66898edcc4c8--

Follow-up meeting on setup networks UI. issues to follow: 1. can VDSM attach many non-vlan and many vlan networks to a single nic? (Dan - please reply if its doable)
Yes and no Easy to do: One non-Vlan + many vlan tagged If all the non-Vlan are also bridles then yes: Either using iprout or alias IP http://www.shorewall.net/Shorewall_and_Aliased_Interfaces.html Alias IP can't be enslaved to a bridge thus if deciding to use alias IP then can also do: 1 Non VLAN tagged + many tagged to many bridge-less non-tagged You probably can also create many iprout muti IP on a single bridge but not sure about the benefit of this - and still need verification.
2. if yes is the UI breakdown of vlan/non-vlan is probably not necessary?
Like you can see above more then necessary, may even need a third category :(
open issues: 1.should we use "VmNetwork"? (or "allow/able to run VMs" you name it) would it be a DC or a Cluster property?
I tend to say yes. Cluster level. PS. Network may have few attributes. Example: Management + VMs on one network Storage on the other Display + VMs + mamagement + storage (Small setup, with single network, Local storage DC) etc..
2.should we implicitly set bridge/bridgeless when attaching a network with setupnetworks?
Depending on the VM-networks tag if we have it. Best way is to be add by vdsm as needed (When creating the first VM the uses it) but this raises some flows that not sure you want to have for 3.1 time frame
3.nickless networks - was that planned for this version? VDSM support it already but we are missing the UI and Backend for it.
participants (2)
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Roy Golan
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Simon Grinberg