5:14 a.m.
On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 9:17 AM Barak Korren <bkorren(a)redhat.com> wrote:
On 22 November 2017 at 01:44, Greg Sheremeta
<gshereme(a)redhat.com> wrote:
>
> Same thing really, but I like to navigate to
> http://plain.resources.ovirt.org/repos/ovirt/tested/master/rpm/ and poke
> around in the browser.
>
There is not guarantee that what you see in the web UI resembles the
actual yum repository structure in any way, this is why tools that
actually read the yum metadata are preferable.
Can we write a tool that will take a spec and list of platforms and repos,
and verify that all the packages listed in the spec exist?
The main use case is RHEL - in the CI we are running on CentOS, with
EPEL repos, so we cannot detect missing packages.
Or maybe we should fix the CI repos so it simulates better a real system?
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6:56 a.m.
New subject: Question about availability of image-io in ovirt master repo
On 22 November 2017 at 13:14, Nir Soffer <nsoffer(a)redhat.com> wrote:
On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 9:17 AM Barak Korren
<bkorren(a)redhat.com> wrote:
>
> On 22 November 2017 at 01:44, Greg Sheremeta <gshereme(a)redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> > Same thing really, but I like to navigate to
> > http://plain.resources.ovirt.org/repos/ovirt/tested/master/rpm/ and poke
> > around in the browser.
> >
> There is not guarantee that what you see in the web UI resembles the
> actual yum repository structure in any way, this is why tools that
> actually read the yum metadata are preferable.
Can we write a tool that will take a spec and list of platforms and repos,
and verify that all the packages listed in the spec exist?
you mean like spectoo and yum-builddep?
The main use case is RHEL - in the CI we are running on CentOS, with
EPEL repos, so we cannot detect missing packages.
Or maybe we should fix the CI repos so it simulates better a real system?
It simulates a very real CentOS, there is nothing to fix there.
I suppose you are talking about RHEL here. As a developer, when you
add dependencies, its your responsibility to check that they exist on
your target platforms and avoid adding them if they don't. We cannot
really use RHEL on oVirt's CI, the developer's free license is only
good for one laptop.
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RHV DevOps team , RHCE, RHCi
Red Hat EMEA
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3:53 p.m.
New subject: Question about availability of image-io in ovirt master repo
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On 22 November 2017 at 13:14, Nir Soffer <nsoffer(a)redhat.com =
<mailto:nsoffer@redhat.com>> wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 9:17 AM Barak Korren
<bkorren(a)redhat.com> =
wrote:
>>=20
>> On 22 November 2017 at 01:44, Greg Sheremeta <gshereme(a)redhat.com> =
wrote:
>>>=20
>>> Same thing really, but I like to navigate to
>>> http://plain.resources.ovirt.org/repos/ovirt/tested/master/rpm/ and =
poke
>>> around in the browser.
>>>=20
>> There is not guarantee that what you see in the web UI resembles the
>> actual yum repository structure in any way, this is why tools that
>> actually read the yum metadata are preferable.
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>=20
> Can we write a tool that will take a spec and list of platforms and =
repos,
> and verify that all the packages listed in the spec exist?
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you mean like spectoo and yum-builddep?
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> The main use case is RHEL - in the CI we are running on CentOS, with
> EPEL repos, so we cannot detect missing packages.
>=20
> Or maybe we should fix the CI repos so it simulates better a real =
system?
=20
It simulates a very real CentOS, there is nothing to fix there.
=20
I suppose you are talking about RHEL here. As a developer, when you
add dependencies, its your responsibility to check that they exist on
your target platforms and avoid adding them if they don=E2=80=99t.
True, though the point of CI is to make sure it actually happens, =
right:)
We cannot
really use RHEL on oVirt's CI, the developer's free license is only
good for one laptop.
It does have a solution though. You work for Red Hat, you have a free =
license for machines in private network, you can place the jenkins slave =
there, and make it run RHEL test publishing results back to oVirt =
infra/gerrit
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November 2017 at 01:44, =
Greg Sheremeta <<a href=3D"mailto:gshereme@redhat.com" =
class=3D"">gshereme(a)redhat.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br
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type=3D"cite" class=3D""><br class=3D"">Same thing
really, but I like to =
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href=3D"http://plain.resources.ovirt.org/repos/ovirt/tested/master/r... =
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</a> and poke<br class=3D"">around in the browser.<br
class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></blockquote>There is not guarantee that what you see in the
=
web UI resembles the<br class=3D"">actual yum repository structure in =
any way, this is why tools that<br class=3D"">actually read the yum =
metadata are preferable.<br class=3D""></blockquote><br
class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">Can we write a tool that will take a spec and list of =
platforms and repos,<br class=3D"">and verify that all the packages =
listed in the spec exist?<br class=3D""></blockquote><br =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
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text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline =
!important;" class=3D"">you mean like spectoo and =
yum-builddep?</span><br style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: =
12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: =
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-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D"">The main use case is RHEL -
=
in the CI we are running on CentOS, with<br class=3D"">EPEL repos, so we
=
cannot detect missing packages.<br class=3D""><br
class=3D"">Or maybe we =
should fix the CI repos so it simulates better a real system?<br =
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12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: =
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word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: =
inline !important;" class=3D"">It simulates a very real CentOS, there is
=
nothing to fix there.</span><br style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; =
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!important;" class=3D"">I suppose you are talking about RHEL here. As a
=
developer, when you</span><br style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; =
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display: inline !important;" class=3D"">add dependencies, its your =
responsibility to check that they exist on</span><br style=3D"font-family:=
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=
adding them if they
don=E2=80=99t.</span></div></blockquote><div><br =
class=3D""></div><div>True, though the point of CI is to make
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display: inline !important;" class=3D"">really use RHEL on oVirt's
CI, =
the developer's free license is only</span><br style=3D"font-family: =
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display: inline !important;" class=3D"">good for one
laptop.</span><br =
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New subject: Question about availability of image-io in ovirt master repo
On 22 November 2017 at 23:53, Michal Skrivanek
<michal.skrivanek(a)redhat.com> wrote:
On 22 Nov 2017, at 13:56, Barak Korren <bkorren(a)redhat.com> wrote:
> I suppose you are talking about RHEL here. As a developer, when you
> add dependencies, its your responsibility to check that they exist on
> your target platforms and avoid adding them if they don’t.
True, though the point of CI is to make sure it actually happens, right:)
We I can't argue with that...
> We cannot
> really use RHEL on oVirt's CI, the developer's free license is only
> good for one laptop.
It does have a solution though. You work for Red Hat, you have a free
license for machines in private network, you can place the jenkins slave
there, and make it run RHEL test publishing results back to oVirt
infra/gerrit
Slave/master connections are not good at traversing firewalls, and it
would also mean we'll need to include all kinds of
internal-network-only bits in the oVirt source repos.
But we actually do have a way to do something like this, now that I
think of it. I hinted at that in the internally published email where
we announced we build a new internal CI system based on the oVirt CI
code. We can have the internal system connect directly to oVirt
Gerrit, and then run RHELx jobs.
Anyone volunteers his project to be a guinea pig for that? I'd rather
not try this on the big and complex engine and vdsm first...
Also I worry that people might confuse this with the RHV CI...
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Barak Korren
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