ovirt-guest-agent-common question
Hi After i am installing ovirt-guest-agent-common shutdown of a VM takes about 90 seconds instead of 30 seconds without the agent. I am running on rhvm 4.1 build 4, host, engine and VM all are rhel 7.3, agent version is ovirt-guest-agent-common-1.0.13-2.el7ev.noarch. Has anyone encounter this issue ? Regards, ----------------------------- Guy Chen, RHEV-M Performance O: +972.9.7692152 M: +972.52.8545202 guchen@redhat.com
Hi After i am installing ovirt-guest-agent-common shutdown of a VM takes about 90 seconds instead of 30 seconds without the agent. I am running on rhvm 4.1 build 4, host, engine and VM all are rhel 7.3, agent version is ovirt-guest-agent-common-1.0.13-2.el7ev.noarch. Has anyone encounter this issue ? Regards, ----------------------------- Guy Chen, RHEV-M Performance O: +972.9.7692152 M: +972.52.8545202 guchen@redhat.com
On Jan 16, 2017, at 10:18 AM, Guy Chen <guchen@redhat.com> wrote:
Hi
After i am installing ovirt-guest-agent-common shutdown of a VM takes about 90 seconds instead of 30 seconds without the agent. I am running on rhvm 4.1 build 4, host, engine and VM all are rhel 7.3, agent version is ovirt-guest-agent-common-1.0.13-2.el7ev.noarch. Has anyone encounter this issue ?
This is pretty normal as there’s a timeout letting the users logged in save their work etc. So the reboot is scheduled. This is not an issue, this is simply by design.
Regards,
----------------------------- Guy Chen, RHEV-M Performance O: +972.9.7692152 M: +972.52.8545202 guchen@redhat.com
O.k, Thanks ! Regards, ----------------------------- Guy Chen, RHEV-M Performance O: +972.9.7692152 M: +972.52.8545202 guchen@redhat.com ----- Original Message -----
From: "Vinzenz Feenstra" <vfeenstr@redhat.com> To: "Guy Chen" <guchen@redhat.com> Cc: devel@ovirt.org, "Eyal Berman" <eberman@redhat.com>, "Unname" <rgolan@redhat.com> Sent: Monday, January 16, 2017 11:23:19 AM Subject: Re: ovirt-guest-agent-common question
On Jan 16, 2017, at 10:18 AM, Guy Chen <guchen@redhat.com> wrote:
Hi
After i am installing ovirt-guest-agent-common shutdown of a VM takes about 90 seconds instead of 30 seconds without the agent. I am running on rhvm 4.1 build 4, host, engine and VM all are rhel 7.3, agent version is ovirt-guest-agent-common-1.0.13-2.el7ev.noarch. Has anyone encounter this issue ?
This is pretty normal as there’s a timeout letting the users logged in save their work etc. So the reboot is scheduled. This is not an issue, this is simply by design.
Regards,
----------------------------- Guy Chen, RHEV-M Performance O: +972.9.7692152 M: +972.52.8545202 guchen@redhat.com
On 16 January 2017 at 11:39, Guy Chen <guchen@redhat.com> wrote:
O.k, Thanks !
Regards,
----------------------------- Guy Chen, RHEV-M Performance O: +972.9.7692152 M: +972.52.8545202 guchen@redhat.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Vinzenz Feenstra" <vfeenstr@redhat.com> To: "Guy Chen" <guchen@redhat.com> Cc: devel@ovirt.org, "Eyal Berman" <eberman@redhat.com>, "Unname" < rgolan@redhat.com> Sent: Monday, January 16, 2017 11:23:19 AM Subject: Re: ovirt-guest-agent-common question
On Jan 16, 2017, at 10:18 AM, Guy Chen <guchen@redhat.com> wrote:
Hi
After i am installing ovirt-guest-agent-common shutdown of a VM takes about 90 seconds instead of 30 seconds without the agent. I am running on rhvm 4.1 build 4, host, engine and VM all are rhel 7.3, agent version is ovirt-guest-agent-common-1.0.13-2.el7ev.noarch. Has anyone encounter this issue ?
This is pretty normal as there’s a timeout letting the users logged in save their work etc. So the reboot is scheduled. This is not an issue, this is simply by design.
@Vinzenz If there is no logged in user this should be as quick as without the tool and I guess there isn't a user logged in @Guy?
Regards,
----------------------------- Guy Chen, RHEV-M Performance O: +972.9.7692152 M: +972.52.8545202 guchen@redhat.com
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On Jan 16, 2017, at 11:22 AM, Roy Golan <rgolan@redhat.com> wrote: =20 =20 =20 On 16 January 2017 at 11:39, Guy Chen <guchen@redhat.com = <mailto:guchen@redhat.com>> wrote: O.k, Thanks ! =20 Regards, =20 ----------------------------- Guy Chen, RHEV-M Performance O: +972.9.7692152 <tel:%2B972.9.7692152> M: +972.52.8545202 = <tel:%2B972.52.8545202> guchen@redhat.com <mailto:guchen@redhat.com> =20 ----- Original Message -----
From: "Vinzenz Feenstra" <vfeenstr@redhat.com = <mailto:vfeenstr@redhat.com>> To: "Guy Chen" <guchen@redhat.com <mailto:guchen@redhat.com>> Cc: devel@ovirt.org <mailto:devel@ovirt.org>, "Eyal Berman" = <eberman@redhat.com <mailto:eberman@redhat.com>>, "Unname" = <rgolan@redhat.com <mailto:rgolan@redhat.com>> Sent: Monday, January 16, 2017 11:23:19 AM Subject: Re: ovirt-guest-agent-common question
On Jan 16, 2017, at 10:18 AM, Guy Chen <guchen@redhat.com = <mailto:guchen@redhat.com>> wrote:
Hi
After i am installing ovirt-guest-agent-common shutdown of a VM = takes about 90 seconds instead of 30 seconds without the agent. I am running on rhvm 4.1 build 4, host, engine and VM all are rhel = 7.3, agent version is ovirt-guest-agent-common-1.0.13-2.el7ev.noarch. Has anyone encounter this issue ?
This is pretty normal as there=E2=80=99s a timeout letting the users = logged in save their work etc. So the reboot is scheduled. This is not an issue, this is simply by design.
=20 @Vinzenz If there is no logged in user this should be as quick as = without the tool and I guess there isn't a user logged in @Guy?
Well, the definition of =E2=80=98Someone is logged in=E2=80=99 is quite = difficult to answer on linux machine.
=20
Regards,
----------------------------- Guy Chen, RHEV-M Performance O: +972.9.7692152 M: +972.52.8545202 guchen@redhat.com <mailto:guchen@redhat.com>
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= font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; = font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: = start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; = widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;">On 16 = January 2017 at 11:39, Guy Chen<span = class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><span dir=3D"ltr" = class=3D""><<a href=3D"mailto:guchen@redhat.com" target=3D"_blank" = class=3D"">guchen@redhat.com</a>></span><span = class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>wrote:<br = class=3D""><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0px 0px = 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, = 204); border-left-style: solid; padding-left: 1ex;">O.k, Thanks !<br = class=3D""><span class=3D"im HOEnZb"><br class=3D"">Regards,<br = class=3D""><br class=3D"">-----------------------------<br class=3D"">Guy = Chen, RHEV-M<br class=3D"">Performance<br class=3D"">O:<span = class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><a = href=3D"tel:%2B972.9.7692152" value=3D"+97297692152" = class=3D"">+972.9.7692152</a> <span = class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>M:<span = class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><a = href=3D"tel:%2B972.52.8545202" value=3D"+972528545202" = class=3D"">+972.52.8545202</a><br class=3D""><a = href=3D"mailto:guchen@redhat.com" class=3D"">guchen@redhat.com</a><br = class=3D""><br class=3D""></span><div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div = class=3D"h5">----- Original Message -----<br class=3D"">> From: = "Vinzenz Feenstra" <<a href=3D"mailto:vfeenstr@redhat.com" = class=3D"">vfeenstr@redhat.com</a>><br class=3D"">> To: "Guy Chen" = <<a href=3D"mailto:guchen@redhat.com" = class=3D"">guchen@redhat.com</a>><br class=3D"">> Cc:<span = class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><a = href=3D"mailto:devel@ovirt.org" class=3D"">devel@ovirt.org</a>, "Eyal = Berman" <<a href=3D"mailto:eberman@redhat.com" = class=3D"">eberman@redhat.com</a>>, "Unname" <<a = href=3D"mailto:rgolan@redhat.com" class=3D"">rgolan@redhat.com</a>><br = class=3D"">> Sent: Monday, January 16, 2017 11:23:19 AM<br = class=3D"">> Subject: Re: ovirt-guest-agent-common question<br = class=3D"">><br class=3D"">><br class=3D"">> > On Jan 16, = 2017, at 10:18 AM, Guy Chen <<a href=3D"mailto:guchen@redhat.com" = class=3D"">guchen@redhat.com</a>> wrote:<br class=3D"">> ><br = class=3D"">> ><br class=3D"">> > Hi<br class=3D"">> = ><br class=3D"">> > After i am installing = ovirt-guest-agent-common shutdown of a VM takes about<br class=3D"">> = > 90 seconds instead of 30 seconds without the agent.<br = class=3D"">> > I am running on rhvm 4.1 build 4, host, engine and = VM all are rhel 7.3,<br class=3D"">> > agent version is = ovirt-guest-agent-common-1.0.<wbr class=3D"">13-2.el7ev.noarch.<br = class=3D"">> > Has anyone encounter this issue ?<br = class=3D"">><br class=3D"">> This is pretty normal as there=E2=80=99= s a timeout letting the users logged in save<br class=3D"">> their = work etc. So the reboot is scheduled.<br class=3D"">> This is not an = issue, this is simply by design.<br class=3D"">><br = class=3D""></div></div></blockquote><div class=3D""><br = class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">@Vinzenz If there is no logged in user = this should be as quick as without the tool and I guess there isn't a = user logged in @Guy?<br class=3D""></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br= class=3D""></div><div>Well, the definition of =E2=80=98Someone is = logged in=E2=80=99 is quite difficult to answer on linux = machine.</div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div = class=3D""><div class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; = font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; = font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: = start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; = widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div = class=3D""> <br class=3D""></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" = style=3D"margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; = border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-style: solid; = padding-left: 1ex;"><div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5">> ><br = class=3D"">> > Regards,<br class=3D"">> ><br class=3D"">> = > -----------------------------<br class=3D"">> > Guy Chen, = RHEV-M<br class=3D"">> > Performance<br class=3D"">> > O: = +972.9.7692152 M: +972.52.8545202<br = class=3D"">> ><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><a = href=3D"mailto:guchen@redhat.com" class=3D"">guchen@redhat.com</a><br = class=3D"">> ><br class=3D"">><br = class=3D"">></div></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div><br= class=3D""></body></html>= --Apple-Mail=_609BC042-A220-47A3-A90E-C4DDA9F5AE56--
Regards, ----------------------------- Guy Chen, RHEV-M Performance O: +972.9.7692152 M: +972.52.8545202 guchen@redhat.com ----- Original Message -----
From: "Vinzenz Feenstra" <vfeenstr@redhat.com> To: "Unname" <rgolan@redhat.com> Cc: "Guy Chen" <guchen@redhat.com>, devel@ovirt.org, "Eyal Berman" <eberman@redhat.com> Sent: Monday, January 16, 2017 12:35:06 PM Subject: Re: ovirt-guest-agent-common question
On Jan 16, 2017, at 11:22 AM, Roy Golan <rgolan@redhat.com> wrote:
On 16 January 2017 at 11:39, Guy Chen <guchen@redhat.com <mailto:guchen@redhat.com>> wrote: O.k, Thanks !
Regards,
----------------------------- Guy Chen, RHEV-M Performance O: +972.9.7692152 <tel:%2B972.9.7692152> M: +972.52.8545202 <tel:%2B972.52.8545202> guchen@redhat.com <mailto:guchen@redhat.com>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Vinzenz Feenstra" <vfeenstr@redhat.com <mailto:vfeenstr@redhat.com>> To: "Guy Chen" <guchen@redhat.com <mailto:guchen@redhat.com>> Cc: devel@ovirt.org <mailto:devel@ovirt.org>, "Eyal Berman" <eberman@redhat.com <mailto:eberman@redhat.com>>, "Unname" <rgolan@redhat.com <mailto:rgolan@redhat.com>> Sent: Monday, January 16, 2017 11:23:19 AM Subject: Re: ovirt-guest-agent-common question
On Jan 16, 2017, at 10:18 AM, Guy Chen <guchen@redhat.com <mailto:guchen@redhat.com>> wrote:
Hi
After i am installing ovirt-guest-agent-common shutdown of a VM takes about 90 seconds instead of 30 seconds without the agent. I am running on rhvm 4.1 build 4, host, engine and VM all are rhel 7.3, agent version is ovirt-guest-agent-common-1.0.13-2.el7ev.noarch. Has anyone encounter this issue ?
This is pretty normal as there’s a timeout letting the users logged in save their work etc. So the reboot is scheduled. This is not an issue, this is simply by design.
@Vinzenz If there is no logged in user this should be as quick as without the tool and I guess there isn't a user logged in @Guy?
Well, the definition of ‘Someone is logged in’ is quite difficult to answer on linux machine.
No user is manually logged in
Regards,
----------------------------- Guy Chen, RHEV-M Performance O: +972.9.7692152 M: +972.52.8545202 guchen@redhat.com <mailto:guchen@redhat.com>
On 16 January 2017 at 12:35, Vinzenz Feenstra <vfeenstr@redhat.com> wrote:
On Jan 16, 2017, at 11:22 AM, Roy Golan <rgolan@redhat.com> wrote:
On 16 January 2017 at 11:39, Guy Chen <guchen@redhat.com> wrote:
O.k, Thanks !
Regards,
----------------------------- Guy Chen, RHEV-M Performance O: +972.9.7692152 M: +972.52.8545202 guchen@redhat.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Vinzenz Feenstra" <vfeenstr@redhat.com> To: "Guy Chen" <guchen@redhat.com> Cc: devel@ovirt.org, "Eyal Berman" <eberman@redhat.com>, "Unname" < rgolan@redhat.com> Sent: Monday, January 16, 2017 11:23:19 AM Subject: Re: ovirt-guest-agent-common question
On Jan 16, 2017, at 10:18 AM, Guy Chen <guchen@redhat.com> wrote:
Hi
After i am installing ovirt-guest-agent-common shutdown of a VM takes about 90 seconds instead of 30 seconds without the agent. I am running on rhvm 4.1 build 4, host, engine and VM all are rhel 7.3, agent version is ovirt-guest-agent-common-1.0.13-2.el7ev.noarch. Has anyone encounter this issue ?
This is pretty normal as there’s a timeout letting the users logged in save their work etc. So the reboot is scheduled. This is not an issue, this is simply by design.
@Vinzenz If there is no logged in user this should be as quick as without the tool and I guess there isn't a user logged in @Guy?
Well, the definition of ‘Someone is logged in’ is quite difficult to answer on linux machine.
Correct but if the system is doing nothing why would adding guest agent is adding > 1 min to the shutdown?
Regards,
----------------------------- Guy Chen, RHEV-M Performance O: +972.9.7692152 <+972%209-769-2152> M: +972.52.8545202
<+972%2052-854-5202>
guchen@redhat.com
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On Jan 17, 2017, at 9:43 AM, Roy Golan <rgolan@redhat.com> wrote: =20 =20 =20 On 16 January 2017 at 12:35, Vinzenz Feenstra <vfeenstr@redhat.com = <mailto:vfeenstr@redhat.com>> wrote: =20
On Jan 16, 2017, at 11:22 AM, Roy Golan <rgolan@redhat.com = <mailto:rgolan@redhat.com>> wrote: =20 =20 =20 On 16 January 2017 at 11:39, Guy Chen <guchen@redhat.com = <mailto:guchen@redhat.com>> wrote: O.k, Thanks ! =20 Regards, =20 ----------------------------- Guy Chen, RHEV-M Performance O: +972.9.7692152 <tel:%2B972.9.7692152> M: +972.52.8545202 = <tel:%2B972.52.8545202> guchen@redhat.com <mailto:guchen@redhat.com> =20 ----- Original Message -----
From: "Vinzenz Feenstra" <vfeenstr@redhat.com = <mailto:vfeenstr@redhat.com>> To: "Guy Chen" <guchen@redhat.com <mailto:guchen@redhat.com>> Cc: devel@ovirt.org <mailto:devel@ovirt.org>, "Eyal Berman" = <eberman@redhat.com <mailto:eberman@redhat.com>>, "Unname" = <rgolan@redhat.com <mailto:rgolan@redhat.com>> Sent: Monday, January 16, 2017 11:23:19 AM Subject: Re: ovirt-guest-agent-common question
On Jan 16, 2017, at 10:18 AM, Guy Chen <guchen@redhat.com = <mailto:guchen@redhat.com>> wrote:
Hi
After i am installing ovirt-guest-agent-common shutdown of a VM = takes about 90 seconds instead of 30 seconds without the agent. I am running on rhvm 4.1 build 4, host, engine and VM all are = rhel 7.3, agent version is ovirt-guest-agent-common-1.0.13-2.el7ev.noarch. Has anyone encounter this issue ?
This is pretty normal as there=E2=80=99s a timeout letting the = users logged in save their work etc. So the reboot is scheduled. This is not an issue, this is simply by design.
=20 @Vinzenz If there is no logged in user this should be as quick as = without the tool and I guess there isn't a user logged in @Guy? =20 Well, the definition of =E2=80=98Someone is logged in=E2=80=99 is = quite difficult to answer on linux machine. =20 Correct but if the system is doing nothing why would adding guest = agent is adding > 1 min to the shutdown? =20
The agent adds that, what it gets told to, it=E2=80=99s not hardcoded if = that is your point. =E2=80=9CIf the system is doing nothing=E2=80=9D is = again very subjective and not easy to answer. Anyway you=E2=80=99re welcome to change that delay if you insist. It=E2=80= =99s sent by the engine via the VM.shutdown verb on vdsm as the delay = parameter in seconds. Just I don=E2=80=99t support this change and I do see too many potential = pitfalls in trying to determine if we should skip the delay or not - As = I said, it=E2=80=99s a matter which is too subjective.
=20
=20
Regards,
----------------------------- Guy Chen, RHEV-M Performance O: +972.9.7692152 <tel:+972%209-769-2152> M: =
+972.52.8545202 <tel:+972%2052-854-5202>
guchen@redhat.com <mailto:guchen@redhat.com>
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= font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; = font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: = start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; = widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;">On 16 = January 2017 at 12:35, Vinzenz Feenstra<span = class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><span dir=3D"ltr" = class=3D""><<a href=3D"mailto:vfeenstr@redhat.com" target=3D"_blank" = class=3D"">vfeenstr@redhat.com</a>></span><span = class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>wrote:<br = class=3D""><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0px 0px = 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, = 204); border-left-style: solid; padding-left: 1ex;"><div = style=3D"word-wrap: break-word;" class=3D""><br class=3D""><div = class=3D""><div class=3D""><div class=3D"h5"><blockquote type=3D"cite" = class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Jan 16, 2017, at 11:22 AM, Roy Golan = <<a href=3D"mailto:rgolan@redhat.com" target=3D"_blank" = class=3D"">rgolan@redhat.com</a>> wrote:</div><br = class=3D"m_3987307417713686096Apple-interchange-newline"><div = class=3D""><br = class=3D"m_3987307417713686096Apple-interchange-newline"><br = style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; = font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; = text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: = normal; word-spacing: 0px;" class=3D""><div class=3D"gmail_quote" = style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; = font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; = text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: = normal; word-spacing: 0px;">On 16 January 2017 at 11:39, Guy Chen<span = class=3D"m_3987307417713686096Apple-converted-space"> </span><span = dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><<a href=3D"mailto:guchen@redhat.com" = target=3D"_blank" class=3D"">guchen@redhat.com</a>></span><span = class=3D"m_3987307417713686096Apple-converted-space"> </span>wrote<wb= r class=3D"">:<br class=3D""><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" = style=3D"margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; = border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-style: solid; = padding-left: 1ex;">O.k, Thanks !<br class=3D""><span = class=3D"m_3987307417713686096im m_3987307417713686096HOEnZb"><br = class=3D"">Regards,<br class=3D""><br = class=3D"">-----------------------------<br class=3D"">Guy Chen, = RHEV-M<br class=3D"">Performance<br class=3D"">O:<span = class=3D"m_3987307417713686096Apple-converted-space"> </span><a = href=3D"tel:%2B972.9.7692152" value=3D"+97297692152" target=3D"_blank" = class=3D"">+972.9.7692152</a> <span = class=3D"m_3987307417713686096Apple-converted-space"> </span>M:<span = class=3D"m_3987307417713686096Apple-converted-space"> </span><a = href=3D"tel:%2B972.52.8545202" value=3D"+972528545202" target=3D"_blank" = class=3D"">+972.52.8545202</a><br class=3D""><a = href=3D"mailto:guchen@redhat.com" target=3D"_blank" = class=3D"">guchen@redhat.com</a><br class=3D""><br class=3D""></span><div = class=3D"m_3987307417713686096HOEnZb"><div = class=3D"m_3987307417713686096h5">----- Original Message -----<br = class=3D"">> From: "Vinzenz Feenstra" <<a = href=3D"mailto:vfeenstr@redhat.com" target=3D"_blank" = class=3D"">vfeenstr@redhat.com</a>><br class=3D"">> To: "Guy Chen" = <<a href=3D"mailto:guchen@redhat.com" target=3D"_blank" = class=3D"">guchen@redhat.com</a>><br class=3D"">> Cc:<span = class=3D"m_3987307417713686096Apple-converted-space"> </span><a = href=3D"mailto:devel@ovirt.org" target=3D"_blank" = class=3D"">devel@ovirt.org</a>, "Eyal Berman" <<a = href=3D"mailto:eberman@redhat.com" target=3D"_blank" = class=3D"">eberman@redhat.com</a>>, "Unname" <<a = href=3D"mailto:rgolan@redhat.com" target=3D"_blank" = class=3D"">rgolan@redhat.com</a>><br class=3D"">> Sent: Monday, = January 16, 2017 11:23:19 AM<br class=3D"">> Subject: Re: = ovirt-guest-agent-common question<br class=3D"">><br class=3D"">><br= class=3D"">> > On Jan 16, 2017, at 10:18 AM, Guy Chen <<a = href=3D"mailto:guchen@redhat.com" target=3D"_blank" = class=3D"">guchen@redhat.com</a>> wrote:<br class=3D"">> ><br = class=3D"">> ><br class=3D"">> > Hi<br class=3D"">> = ><br class=3D"">> > After i am installing = ovirt-guest-agent-common shutdown of a VM takes about<br class=3D"">> = > 90 seconds instead of 30 seconds without the agent.<br = class=3D"">> > I am running on rhvm 4.1 build 4, host, engine and = VM all are rhel 7.3,<br class=3D"">> > agent version is = ovirt-guest-agent-common-1.0.1<wbr class=3D"">3-2.el7ev.noarch.<br = class=3D"">> > Has anyone encounter this issue ?<br = class=3D"">><br class=3D"">> This is pretty normal as there=E2=80=99= s a timeout letting the users logged in save<br class=3D"">> their = work etc. So the reboot is scheduled.<br class=3D"">> This is not an = issue, this is simply by design.<br class=3D"">><br = class=3D""></div></div></blockquote><div class=3D""><br = class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">@Vinzenz If there is no logged in user = this should be as quick as without the tool and I guess there isn't a = user logged in @Guy?<br class=3D""></div></div></div></blockquote><div = class=3D""><br class=3D""></div></div></div><div class=3D"">Well, the = definition of =E2=80=98Someone is logged in=E2=80=99 is quite difficult = to answer on linux machine.</div></div></div></blockquote><div = class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Correct but if the = system is doing nothing why would adding guest agent is adding > 1 = min to the shutdown? <span = class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><br = class=3D""></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br = class=3D""></div><div>The agent adds that, what it gets told to, it=E2=80=99= s not hardcoded if that is your point. =E2=80=9CIf the system is doing = nothing=E2=80=9D is again very subjective and not easy to = answer.</div><div>Anyway you=E2=80=99re welcome to change that delay if = you insist. It=E2=80=99s sent by the engine via the VM.shutdown verb on = vdsm as the delay parameter in seconds.</div><div><br = class=3D""></div><div>Just I don=E2=80=99t support this change and I do = see too many potential pitfalls in trying to determine if we should skip = the delay or not - As I said, it=E2=80=99s a matter which is too = subjective.</div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div = class=3D""><div class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; = font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; = font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: = start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; = widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: = 0px;"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0px 0px 0px = 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); = border-left-style: solid; padding-left: 1ex;"><div style=3D"word-wrap: = break-word;" class=3D""><div class=3D""><span class=3D""><br = class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D""><div = class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; = font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; = letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; = text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;"><div = class=3D""> <br class=3D""></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" = style=3D"margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; = border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-style: solid; = padding-left: 1ex;"><div class=3D"m_3987307417713686096HOEnZb"><div = class=3D"m_3987307417713686096h5">> ><br class=3D"">> > = Regards,<br class=3D"">> ><br class=3D"">> > = -----------------------------<br class=3D"">> > Guy Chen, = RHEV-M<br class=3D"">> > Performance<br class=3D"">> > = O:<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><a = href=3D"tel:+972%209-769-2152" value=3D"+97297692152" target=3D"_blank" = class=3D"">+972.9.7692152</a> <span = class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>M:<span = class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><a = href=3D"tel:+972%2052-854-5202" value=3D"+972528545202" target=3D"_blank" = class=3D"">+972.52.8545202</a><br class=3D"">> ><span = class=3D"m_3987307417713686096Apple-converted-space"> </span><a = href=3D"mailto:guchen@redhat.com" target=3D"_blank" = class=3D"">guchen@redhat.com</a><br class=3D"">> ><br = class=3D"">><br = class=3D"">></div></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></span></= div></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div><br = class=3D""></body></html>= --Apple-Mail=_42BC539A-3B97-4E49-90D0-761AF12E136C--
On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 11:05 AM, Vinzenz Feenstra <vfeenstr@redhat.com> wrote:
On Jan 17, 2017, at 9:43 AM, Roy Golan <rgolan@redhat.com> wrote:
On 16 January 2017 at 12:35, Vinzenz Feenstra <vfeenstr@redhat.com> wrote:
On Jan 16, 2017, at 11:22 AM, Roy Golan <rgolan@redhat.com> wrote:
On 16 January 2017 at 11:39, Guy Chen <guchen@redhat.com> wrote:
O.k, Thanks !
Regards,
----------------------------- Guy Chen, RHEV-M Performance O: +972.9.7692152 M: +972.52.8545202 guchen@redhat.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Vinzenz Feenstra" <vfeenstr@redhat.com> To: "Guy Chen" <guchen@redhat.com> Cc: devel@ovirt.org, "Eyal Berman" <eberman@redhat.com>, "Unname" < rgolan@redhat.com> Sent: Monday, January 16, 2017 11:23:19 AM Subject: Re: ovirt-guest-agent-common question
On Jan 16, 2017, at 10:18 AM, Guy Chen <guchen@redhat.com> wrote:
Hi
After i am installing ovirt-guest-agent-common shutdown of a VM takes about 90 seconds instead of 30 seconds without the agent. I am running on rhvm 4.1 build 4, host, engine and VM all are rhel 7.3, agent version is ovirt-guest-agent-common-1.0.13-2.el7ev.noarch. Has anyone encounter this issue ?
This is pretty normal as there’s a timeout letting the users logged in save their work etc. So the reboot is scheduled. This is not an issue, this is simply by design.
@Vinzenz If there is no logged in user this should be as quick as without the tool and I guess there isn't a user logged in @Guy?
Well, the definition of ‘Someone is logged in’ is quite difficult to answer on linux machine.
Correct but if the system is doing nothing why would adding guest agent is adding > 1 min to the shutdown?
The agent adds that, what it gets told to, it’s not hardcoded if that is your point. “If the system is doing nothing” is again very subjective and not easy to answer. Anyway you’re welcome to change that delay if you insist. It’s sent by the engine via the VM.shutdown verb on vdsm as the delay parameter in seconds.
Just I don’t support this change and I do see too many potential pitfalls in trying to determine if we should skip the delay or not - As I said, it’s a matter which is too subjective.
I agree it's subjective, but the resulting user experience isn't pleasant either - it is perceived as if oVirt is making the VM slow, for no good reason. I do think we could do a better job. For example, not to slow down server OS VMs (we do not expect users logged in, and to save their work, etc.), or only do it in Windows and when X is running, etc. Y.
Regards,
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On Jan 17, 2017, at 7:27 PM, Yaniv Kaul <ykaul@redhat.com> wrote: =20 =20 =20 On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 11:05 AM, Vinzenz Feenstra = <vfeenstr@redhat.com <mailto:vfeenstr@redhat.com>> wrote: =20
On Jan 17, 2017, at 9:43 AM, Roy Golan <rgolan@redhat.com = <mailto:rgolan@redhat.com>> wrote: =20 =20 =20 On 16 January 2017 at 12:35, Vinzenz Feenstra <vfeenstr@redhat.com = <mailto:vfeenstr@redhat.com>> wrote: =20
On Jan 16, 2017, at 11:22 AM, Roy Golan <rgolan@redhat.com = <mailto:rgolan@redhat.com>> wrote: =20 =20 =20 On 16 January 2017 at 11:39, Guy Chen <guchen@redhat.com = <mailto:guchen@redhat.com>> wrote: O.k, Thanks ! =20 Regards, =20 ----------------------------- Guy Chen, RHEV-M Performance O: +972.9.7692152 <tel:%2B972.9.7692152> M: +972.52.8545202 = <tel:%2B972.52.8545202> guchen@redhat.com <mailto:guchen@redhat.com> =20 ----- Original Message -----
From: "Vinzenz Feenstra" <vfeenstr@redhat.com = <mailto:vfeenstr@redhat.com>> To: "Guy Chen" <guchen@redhat.com <mailto:guchen@redhat.com>> Cc: devel@ovirt.org <mailto:devel@ovirt.org>, "Eyal Berman" = <eberman@redhat.com <mailto:eberman@redhat.com>>, "Unname" = <rgolan@redhat.com <mailto:rgolan@redhat.com>> Sent: Monday, January 16, 2017 11:23:19 AM Subject: Re: ovirt-guest-agent-common question
On Jan 16, 2017, at 10:18 AM, Guy Chen <guchen@redhat.com = <mailto:guchen@redhat.com>> wrote:
Hi
After i am installing ovirt-guest-agent-common shutdown of a VM = takes about 90 seconds instead of 30 seconds without the agent. I am running on rhvm 4.1 build 4, host, engine and VM all are = rhel 7.3, agent version is ovirt-guest-agent-common-1.0.13-2.el7ev.noarch. Has anyone encounter this issue ?
This is pretty normal as there=E2=80=99s a timeout letting the = users logged in save their work etc. So the reboot is scheduled. This is not an issue, this is simply by design.
=20 @Vinzenz If there is no logged in user this should be as quick as = without the tool and I guess there isn't a user logged in @Guy? =20 Well, the definition of =E2=80=98Someone is logged in=E2=80=99 is = quite difficult to answer on linux machine. =20 Correct but if the system is doing nothing why would adding guest = agent is adding > 1 min to the shutdown? =20 =20 The agent adds that, what it gets told to, it=E2=80=99s not hardcoded = if that is your point. =E2=80=9CIf the system is doing nothing=E2=80=9D = is again very subjective and not easy to answer. Anyway you=E2=80=99re welcome to change that delay if you insist. = It=E2=80=99s sent by the engine via the VM.shutdown verb on vdsm as the = delay parameter in seconds. =20 Just I don=E2=80=99t support this change and I do see too many =
=20 I agree it's subjective, but the resulting user experience isn't =
--Apple-Mail=_1B229408-49CD-488C-9D33-8A0022BAE7A2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 potential pitfalls in trying to determine if we should skip the delay or = not - As I said, it=E2=80=99s a matter which is too subjective. pleasant either - it is perceived as if oVirt is making the VM slow, = for no good reason. I do think we could do a better job. For example, = not to slow down server OS VMs (we do not expect users logged in, and to = save their work, etc.), or only do it in Windows and when X is running, = etc. Sure, that=E2=80=99s not a big deal the engine easily can set the value = to 0 if the type is a server. If we really have users getting annoyed by = this. I have never heard of it however. So this seems not to be a very = big problem for most users, rather a developer or tester issue because = they need to work on that faster.
Y. =20 =20
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= font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; = font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: = start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; = widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;">On = Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 11:05 AM, Vinzenz Feenstra<span = class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><span dir=3D"ltr" = class=3D""><<a href=3D"mailto:vfeenstr@redhat.com" target=3D"_blank" = class=3D"">vfeenstr@redhat.com</a>></span><span = class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>wrote:<br = class=3D""><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0px 0px = 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, = 204); border-left-style: solid; padding-left: 1ex;"><div = style=3D"word-wrap: break-word;" class=3D""><br class=3D""><div = class=3D""><div class=3D""><div class=3D"h5"><blockquote type=3D"cite" = class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Jan 17, 2017, at 9:43 AM, Roy Golan <<a = href=3D"mailto:rgolan@redhat.com" target=3D"_blank" = class=3D"">rgolan@redhat.com</a>> wrote:</div><br = class=3D"m_-981623039192016931Apple-interchange-newline"><div = class=3D""><br = class=3D"m_-981623039192016931Apple-interchange-newline"><br = style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; = font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; = text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: = normal; word-spacing: 0px;" class=3D""><div class=3D"gmail_quote" = style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; = font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; = text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: = normal; word-spacing: 0px;">On 16 January 2017 at 12:35, Vinzenz = Feenstra<span = class=3D"m_-981623039192016931Apple-converted-space"> </span><span = dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><<a href=3D"mailto:vfeenstr@redhat.com" = target=3D"_blank" class=3D"">vfeenstr@redhat.com</a>></span><span = class=3D"m_-981623039192016931Apple-converted-space"><wbr = class=3D""> </span>wrote:<br class=3D""><blockquote = class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; = border-left-width: 1px; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); = border-left-style: solid; padding-left: 1ex;"><div style=3D"word-wrap: = break-word;" class=3D""><br class=3D""><div class=3D""><div = class=3D""><div class=3D"m_-981623039192016931h5"><blockquote = type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Jan 16, 2017, at 11:22 AM, = Roy Golan <<a href=3D"mailto:rgolan@redhat.com" target=3D"_blank" = class=3D"">rgolan@redhat.com</a>> wrote:</div><br = class=3D"m_-981623039192016931m_3987307417713686096Apple-interchange-newli= ne"><div class=3D""><br = class=3D"m_-981623039192016931m_3987307417713686096Apple-interchange-newli= ne"><br style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: = normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: = normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; = white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;" class=3D""><div = class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; = font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; = letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; = text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;">On 16 = January 2017 at 11:39, Guy Chen<span = class=3D"m_-981623039192016931m_3987307417713686096Apple-converted-space">= </span><span dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><<a = href=3D"mailto:guchen@redhat.com" target=3D"_blank" = class=3D"">guchen@redhat.com</a>></span><span = class=3D"m_-981623039192016931m_3987307417713686096Apple-converted-space">= </span>wrote<wbr class=3D"">:<br class=3D""><blockquote = class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; = border-left-width: 1px; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); = border-left-style: solid; padding-left: 1ex;">O.k, Thanks !<br = class=3D""><span class=3D"m_-981623039192016931m_3987307417713686096im = m_-981623039192016931m_3987307417713686096HOEnZb"><br = class=3D"">Regards,<br class=3D""><br = class=3D"">-----------------------------<br class=3D"">Guy Chen, = RHEV-M<br class=3D"">Performance<br class=3D"">O:<span = class=3D"m_-981623039192016931m_3987307417713686096Apple-converted-space">= </span><a href=3D"tel:%2B972.9.7692152" value=3D"+97297692152" = target=3D"_blank" class=3D"">+972.9.7692152</a> = <span = class=3D"m_-981623039192016931m_3987307417713686096Apple-converted-space">= </span>M:<span = class=3D"m_-981623039192016931m_3987307417713686096Apple-converted-space">= </span><a href=3D"tel:%2B972.52.8545202" value=3D"+972528545202" = target=3D"_blank" class=3D"">+972.52.8545202</a><br class=3D""><a = href=3D"mailto:guchen@redhat.com" target=3D"_blank" = class=3D"">guchen@redhat.com</a><br class=3D""><br class=3D""></span><div = class=3D"m_-981623039192016931m_3987307417713686096HOEnZb"><div = class=3D"m_-981623039192016931m_3987307417713686096h5">----- Original = Message -----<br class=3D"">> From: "Vinzenz Feenstra" <<a = href=3D"mailto:vfeenstr@redhat.com" target=3D"_blank" = class=3D"">vfeenstr@redhat.com</a>><br class=3D"">> To: "Guy Chen" = <<a href=3D"mailto:guchen@redhat.com" target=3D"_blank" = class=3D"">guchen@redhat.com</a>><br class=3D"">> Cc:<span = class=3D"m_-981623039192016931m_3987307417713686096Apple-converted-space">= </span><a href=3D"mailto:devel@ovirt.org" target=3D"_blank" = class=3D"">devel@ovirt.org</a>, "Eyal Berman" <<a = href=3D"mailto:eberman@redhat.com" target=3D"_blank" = class=3D"">eberman@redhat.com</a>>, "Unname" <<a = href=3D"mailto:rgolan@redhat.com" target=3D"_blank" = class=3D"">rgolan@redhat.com</a>><br class=3D"">> Sent: Monday, = January 16, 2017 11:23:19 AM<br class=3D"">> Subject: Re: = ovirt-guest-agent-common question<br class=3D"">><br class=3D"">><br= class=3D"">> > On Jan 16, 2017, at 10:18 AM, Guy Chen <<a = href=3D"mailto:guchen@redhat.com" target=3D"_blank" = class=3D"">guchen@redhat.com</a>> wrote:<br class=3D"">> ><br = class=3D"">> ><br class=3D"">> > Hi<br class=3D"">> = ><br class=3D"">> > After i am installing = ovirt-guest-agent-common shutdown of a VM takes about<br class=3D"">> = > 90 seconds instead of 30 seconds without the agent.<br = class=3D"">> > I am running on rhvm 4.1 build 4, host, engine and = VM all are rhel 7.3,<br class=3D"">> > agent version is = ovirt-guest-agent-common-1.0.1<wbr class=3D"">3-2.el7ev.noarch.<br = class=3D"">> > Has anyone encounter this issue ?<br = class=3D"">><br class=3D"">> This is pretty normal as there=E2=80=99= s a timeout letting the users logged in save<br class=3D"">> their = work etc. So the reboot is scheduled.<br class=3D"">> This is not an = issue, this is simply by design.<br class=3D"">><br = class=3D""></div></div></blockquote><div class=3D""><br = class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">@Vinzenz If there is no logged in user = this should be as quick as without the tool and I guess there isn't a = user logged in @Guy?<br class=3D""></div></div></div></blockquote><div = class=3D""><br class=3D""></div></div></div><div class=3D"">Well, the = definition of =E2=80=98Someone is logged in=E2=80=99 is quite difficult = to answer on linux machine.</div></div></div></blockquote><div = class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Correct but if the = system is doing nothing why would adding guest agent is adding > 1 = min to the shutdown? <span = class=3D"m_-981623039192016931Apple-converted-space"> </span><br = class=3D""></div></div></div></blockquote><div class=3D""><br = class=3D""></div></div></div><div class=3D"">The agent adds that, what = it gets told to, it=E2=80=99s not hardcoded if that is your point. =E2=80=9C= If the system is doing nothing=E2=80=9D is again very subjective and not = easy to answer.</div><div class=3D"">Anyway you=E2=80=99re welcome to = change that delay if you insist. It=E2=80=99s sent by the engine via the = VM.shutdown verb on vdsm as the delay parameter in seconds.</div><div = class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Just I don=E2=80=99t = support this change and I do see too many potential pitfalls in trying = to determine if we should skip the delay or not - As I said, it=E2=80=99s = a matter which is too subjective.</div></div></div></blockquote><div = class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">I agree it's subjective, = but the resulting user experience isn't pleasant either - it is = perceived as if oVirt is making the VM slow, for no good reason. I do = think we could do a better job. For example, not to slow down server OS = VMs (we do not expect users logged in, and to save their work, etc.), or = only do it in Windows and when X is running, = etc.</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=3D""></div><div>Sure, = that=E2=80=99s not a big deal the engine easily can set the value to 0 = if the type is a server. If we really have users getting annoyed by = this. I have never heard of it however. So this seems not to be a very = big problem for most users, rather a developer or tester issue because = they need to work on that faster.</div><br class=3D""><blockquote = type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D""><div class=3D"gmail_quote" = style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; = font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; = orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: = none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; = -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div class=3D"">Y.</div><div = class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" = style=3D"margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; = border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-style: solid; = padding-left: 1ex;"><div style=3D"word-wrap: break-word;" class=3D""><div = class=3D""><span class=3D""><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" = class=3D""><div class=3D""><div class=3D"gmail_quote" = style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; = font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; = text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: = normal; word-spacing: 0px;"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" = style=3D"margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; = border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-style: solid; = padding-left: 1ex;"><div style=3D"word-wrap: break-word;" class=3D""><div = class=3D""><span class=3D""><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" = class=3D""><div class=3D""><div class=3D"gmail_quote" = style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; = font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; = text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: = normal; word-spacing: 0px;"><div class=3D""> <br = class=3D""></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0px = 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, = 204); border-left-style: solid; padding-left: 1ex;"><div = class=3D"m_-981623039192016931m_3987307417713686096HOEnZb"><div = class=3D"m_-981623039192016931m_3987307417713686096h5">> ><br = class=3D"">> > Regards,<br class=3D"">> ><br class=3D"">> = > -----------------------------<br class=3D"">> > Guy Chen, = RHEV-M<br class=3D"">> > Performance<br class=3D"">> > = O:<span = class=3D"m_-981623039192016931Apple-converted-space"> </span><a = href=3D"tel:+972%209-769-2152" value=3D"+97297692152" target=3D"_blank" = class=3D"">+972.9.7692152</a> <span = class=3D"m_-981623039192016931Apple-converted-space"> </span>M:<span = class=3D"m_-981623039192016931Apple-converted-space"> </span><a = href=3D"tel:+972%2052-854-5202" value=3D"+972528545202" target=3D"_blank" = class=3D"">+972.52.8545202</a><br class=3D"">> ><span = class=3D"m_-981623039192016931m_3987307417713686096Apple-converted-space">= </span><a href=3D"mailto:guchen@redhat.com" target=3D"_blank" = class=3D"">guchen@redhat.com</a><br class=3D"">> ><br = class=3D"">><br = class=3D"">></div></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></span></= div></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></span></div><br = class=3D""></div><br class=3D"">______________________________<wbr = class=3D"">_________________<br class=3D"">Devel mailing list<br = class=3D""><a href=3D"mailto:Devel@ovirt.org" = class=3D"">Devel@ovirt.org</a><br class=3D""><a = href=3D"http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/devel" rel=3D"noreferrer" = target=3D"_blank" class=3D"">http://lists.ovirt.org/<wbr = class=3D"">mailman/listinfo/devel</a></blockquote></div></div></blockquote=
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