10:42 a.m.
Hi
After i am installing ovirt-guest-agent-common shutdown of a VM takes about 90 seconds
instead of 30 seconds without the agent.
I am running on rhvm 4.1 build 4, host, engine and VM all are rhel 7.3, agent version is
ovirt-guest-agent-common-1.0.13-2.el7ev.noarch.
Has anyone encounter this issue ?
Regards,
-----------------------------
Guy Chen, RHEV-M
Performance
O: +972.9.7692152 M: +972.52.8545202
guchen(a)redhat.com
3:18 a.m.
Hi
After i am installing ovirt-guest-agent-common shutdown of a VM takes about 90 seconds
instead of 30 seconds without the agent.
I am running on rhvm 4.1 build 4, host, engine and VM all are rhel 7.3, agent version is
ovirt-guest-agent-common-1.0.13-2.el7ev.noarch.
Has anyone encounter this issue ?
Regards,
-----------------------------
Guy Chen, RHEV-M
Performance
O: +972.9.7692152 M: +972.52.8545202
guchen(a)redhat.com
3:23 a.m.
On Jan 16, 2017, at 10:18 AM, Guy Chen <guchen(a)redhat.com>
wrote:
Hi
After i am installing ovirt-guest-agent-common shutdown of a VM takes about 90 seconds
instead of 30 seconds without the agent.
I am running on rhvm 4.1 build 4, host, engine and VM all are rhel 7.3, agent version is
ovirt-guest-agent-common-1.0.13-2.el7ev.noarch.
Has anyone encounter this issue ?
This is pretty normal as there’s a timeout letting the users logged in save their work
etc. So the reboot is scheduled.
This is not an issue, this is simply by design.
Regards,
-----------------------------
Guy Chen, RHEV-M
Performance
O: +972.9.7692152 M: +972.52.8545202
guchen(a)redhat.com
3:39 a.m.
O.k, Thanks !
Regards,
-----------------------------
Guy Chen, RHEV-M
Performance
O: +972.9.7692152 M: +972.52.8545202
guchen(a)redhat.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Vinzenz Feenstra" <vfeenstr(a)redhat.com>
To: "Guy Chen" <guchen(a)redhat.com>
Cc: devel(a)ovirt.org, "Eyal Berman" <eberman(a)redhat.com>,
"Unname" <rgolan(a)redhat.com>
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2017 11:23:19 AM
Subject: Re: ovirt-guest-agent-common question
> On Jan 16, 2017, at 10:18 AM, Guy Chen <guchen(a)redhat.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hi
>
> After i am installing ovirt-guest-agent-common shutdown of a VM takes about
> 90 seconds instead of 30 seconds without the agent.
> I am running on rhvm 4.1 build 4, host, engine and VM all are rhel 7.3,
> agent version is ovirt-guest-agent-common-1.0.13-2.el7ev.noarch.
> Has anyone encounter this issue ?
This is pretty normal as there’s a timeout letting the users logged in save
their work etc. So the reboot is scheduled.
This is not an issue, this is simply by design.
>
> Regards,
>
> -----------------------------
> Guy Chen, RHEV-M
> Performance
> O: +972.9.7692152 M: +972.52.8545202
> guchen(a)redhat.com
>
4:22 a.m.
On 16 January 2017 at 11:39, Guy Chen <guchen(a)redhat.com> wrote:
O.k, Thanks !
Regards,
-----------------------------
Guy Chen, RHEV-M
Performance
O: +972.9.7692152 M: +972.52.8545202
guchen(a)redhat.com
----- Original Message -----
> From: "Vinzenz Feenstra" <vfeenstr(a)redhat.com>
> To: "Guy Chen" <guchen(a)redhat.com>
> Cc: devel(a)ovirt.org, "Eyal Berman" <eberman(a)redhat.com>,
"Unname" <
rgolan(a)redhat.com>
> Sent: Monday, January 16, 2017 11:23:19 AM
> Subject: Re: ovirt-guest-agent-common question
>
>
> > On Jan 16, 2017, at 10:18 AM, Guy Chen <guchen(a)redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hi
> >
> > After i am installing ovirt-guest-agent-common shutdown of a VM takes
about
> > 90 seconds instead of 30 seconds without the agent.
> > I am running on rhvm 4.1 build 4, host, engine and VM all are rhel 7.3,
> > agent version is ovirt-guest-agent-common-1.0.13-2.el7ev.noarch.
> > Has anyone encounter this issue ?
>
> This is pretty normal as there’s a timeout letting the users logged in
save
> their work etc. So the reboot is scheduled.
> This is not an issue, this is simply by design.
>
@Vinzenz If there is no logged in user this should be as quick as without
the tool and I guess there isn't a user logged in @Guy?
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > -----------------------------
> > Guy Chen, RHEV-M
> > Performance
> > O: +972.9.7692152 M: +972.52.8545202
> > guchen(a)redhat.com
> >
>
>
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wrote:
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<mailto:guchen@redhat.com>> wrote:
O.k, Thanks !
=20
Regards,
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Guy Chen, RHEV-M
Performance
O: +972.9.7692152 <tel:%2B972.9.7692152> M: +972.52.8545202 =
<tel:%2B972.52.8545202>
guchen(a)redhat.com <mailto:guchen@redhat.com>
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----- Original Message -----
> From: "Vinzenz Feenstra" <vfeenstr(a)redhat.com =
<mailto:vfeenstr@redhat.com>>
> To: "Guy Chen" <guchen(a)redhat.com
<mailto:guchen@redhat.com>>
> Cc: devel(a)ovirt.org <mailto:devel@ovirt.org>, "Eyal Berman" =
<eberman(a)redhat.com <mailto:eberman@redhat.com>>, "Unname" =
<rgolan(a)redhat.com <mailto:rgolan@redhat.com>>
> Sent: Monday, January 16, 2017 11:23:19 AM
> Subject: Re: ovirt-guest-agent-common question
>
>
> > On Jan 16, 2017, at 10:18 AM, Guy Chen <guchen(a)redhat.com =
<mailto:guchen@redhat.com>> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hi
> >
> > After i am installing ovirt-guest-agent-common shutdown of a VM =
takes
about
> > 90 seconds instead of 30 seconds without the agent.
> > I am running on rhvm 4.1 build 4, host, engine and VM all are rhel =
7.3,
> > agent version is
ovirt-guest-agent-common-1.0.13-2.el7ev.noarch.
> > Has anyone encounter this issue ?
>
> This is pretty normal as there=E2=80=99s a timeout letting the users =
logged
in save
> their work etc. So the reboot is scheduled.
> This is not an issue, this is simply by design.
>
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@Vinzenz If there is no logged in user this should be as quick as =
without the
tool and I guess there isn't a user logged in @Guy?
Well, the definition of =E2=80=98Someone is logged in=E2=80=99 is quite =
difficult to answer on linux machine.
=20
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > -----------------------------
> > Guy Chen, RHEV-M
> > Performance
> > O: +972.9.7692152 M: +972.52.8545202
> > guchen(a)redhat.com <mailto:guchen@redhat.com>
> >
>
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January 2017 at 11:39, Guy Chen<span =
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class=3D"">Regards,<br =
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class=3D"h5">----- Original Message -----<br
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=
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class=3D"">eberman(a)redhat.com</a>&gt;, "Unname"
<<a =
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2017, at 10:18 AM, Guy Chen <<a href=3D"mailto:guchen@redhat.com" =
class=3D"">guchen(a)redhat.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br
class=3D"">> ><br =
class=3D"">> ><br class=3D"">> >
Hi<br class=3D"">> =
><br class=3D"">> > After i am installing =
ovirt-guest-agent-common shutdown of a VM takes about<br
class=3D"">> =
> 90 seconds instead of 30 seconds without the agent.<br =
class=3D"">> > I am running on rhvm 4.1 build 4, host, engine
and =
VM all are rhel 7.3,<br class=3D"">> > agent version is =
ovirt-guest-agent-common-1.0.<wbr class=3D"">13-2.el7ev.noarch.<br =
class=3D"">> > Has anyone encounter this issue ?<br =
class=3D"">><br class=3D"">> This is pretty
normal as there=E2=80=99=
s a timeout letting the users logged in save<br class=3D"">> their
=
work etc. So the reboot is scheduled.<br class=3D"">> This is not
an =
issue, this is simply by design.<br class=3D"">><br =
class=3D""></div></div></blockquote><div
class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">@Vinzenz If there is
no logged in user =
this should be as quick as without the tool and I guess there isn't a =
user logged in @Guy?<br
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class=3D""></div><div>Well, the definition of =E2=80=98Someone
is =
logged in=E2=80=99 is quite difficult to answer on linux =
machine.</div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite"
class=3D""><div =
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class=3D"">> > Regards,<br class=3D"">>
><br class=3D"">> =
> -----------------------------<br class=3D"">> > Guy
Chen, =
RHEV-M<br class=3D"">> > Performance<br
class=3D"">> > O: =
+972.9.7692152 M: +972.52.8545202<br =
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Vinzenz Feenstra" <vfeenstr(a)redhat.com>
To: "Unname" <rgolan(a)redhat.com>
Cc: "Guy Chen" <guchen(a)redhat.com>, devel(a)ovirt.org, "Eyal
Berman" <eberman(a)redhat.com>
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2017 12:35:06 PM
Subject: Re: ovirt-guest-agent-common question
> On Jan 16, 2017, at 11:22 AM, Roy Golan <rgolan(a)redhat.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> On 16 January 2017 at 11:39, Guy Chen <guchen(a)redhat.com
> <mailto:guchen@redhat.com>> wrote:
> O.k, Thanks !
>
> Regards,
>
> -----------------------------
> Guy Chen, RHEV-M
> Performance
> O: +972.9.7692152 <tel:%2B972.9.7692152> M: +972.52.8545202
> <tel:%2B972.52.8545202>
> guchen(a)redhat.com <mailto:guchen@redhat.com>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Vinzenz Feenstra" <vfeenstr(a)redhat.com
> > <mailto:vfeenstr@redhat.com>>
> > To: "Guy Chen" <guchen(a)redhat.com
<mailto:guchen@redhat.com>>
> > Cc: devel(a)ovirt.org <mailto:devel@ovirt.org>, "Eyal Berman"
> > <eberman(a)redhat.com <mailto:eberman@redhat.com>>,
"Unname"
> > <rgolan(a)redhat.com <mailto:rgolan@redhat.com>>
> > Sent: Monday, January 16, 2017 11:23:19 AM
> > Subject: Re: ovirt-guest-agent-common question
> >
> >
> > > On Jan 16, 2017, at 10:18 AM, Guy Chen <guchen(a)redhat.com
> > > <mailto:guchen@redhat.com>> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > After i am installing ovirt-guest-agent-common shutdown of a VM takes
> > > about
> > > 90 seconds instead of 30 seconds without the agent.
> > > I am running on rhvm 4.1 build 4, host, engine and VM all are rhel 7.3,
> > > agent version is ovirt-guest-agent-common-1.0.13-2.el7ev.noarch.
> > > Has anyone encounter this issue ?
> >
> > This is pretty normal as there’s a timeout letting the users logged in
> > save
> > their work etc. So the reboot is scheduled.
> > This is not an issue, this is simply by design.
> >
>
> @Vinzenz If there is no logged in user this should be as quick as without
> the tool and I guess there isn't a user logged in @Guy?
Well, the definition of ‘Someone is logged in’ is quite difficult to answer
on linux machine.
No user is manually logged in
>
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > -----------------------------
> > > Guy Chen, RHEV-M
> > > Performance
> > > O: +972.9.7692152 M: +972.52.8545202
> > > guchen(a)redhat.com <mailto:guchen@redhat.com>
> > >
> >
> >
2:43 a.m.
On 16 January 2017 at 12:35, Vinzenz Feenstra <vfeenstr(a)redhat.com> wrote:
On Jan 16, 2017, at 11:22 AM, Roy Golan <rgolan(a)redhat.com> wrote:
On 16 January 2017 at 11:39, Guy Chen <guchen(a)redhat.com> wrote:
> O.k, Thanks !
>
> Regards,
>
> -----------------------------
> Guy Chen, RHEV-M
> Performance
> O: +972.9.7692152 M: +972.52.8545202
> guchen(a)redhat.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Vinzenz Feenstra" <vfeenstr(a)redhat.com>
> > To: "Guy Chen" <guchen(a)redhat.com>
> > Cc: devel(a)ovirt.org, "Eyal Berman" <eberman(a)redhat.com>,
"Unname" <
> rgolan(a)redhat.com>
> > Sent: Monday, January 16, 2017 11:23:19 AM
> > Subject: Re: ovirt-guest-agent-common question
> >
> >
> > > On Jan 16, 2017, at 10:18 AM, Guy Chen <guchen(a)redhat.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > After i am installing ovirt-guest-agent-common shutdown of a VM takes
> about
> > > 90 seconds instead of 30 seconds without the agent.
> > > I am running on rhvm 4.1 build 4, host, engine and VM all are rhel
> 7.3,
> > > agent version is ovirt-guest-agent-common-1.0.13-2.el7ev.noarch.
> > > Has anyone encounter this issue ?
> >
> > This is pretty normal as there’s a timeout letting the users logged in
> save
> > their work etc. So the reboot is scheduled.
> > This is not an issue, this is simply by design.
> >
>
@Vinzenz If there is no logged in user this should be as quick as without
the tool and I guess there isn't a user logged in @Guy?
Well, the definition of ‘Someone is logged in’ is quite difficult to
answer on linux machine.
Correct but if the system is doing nothing why would adding guest agent is
adding > 1 min to the shutdown?
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > -----------------------------
> > > Guy Chen, RHEV-M
> > > Performance
> > > O: +972.9.7692152 <+972%209-769-2152> M: +972.52.8545202
> <+972%2052-854-5202>
> > > guchen(a)redhat.com
> > >
> >
> >
>
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wrote:
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=20
=20
On 16 January 2017 at 12:35, Vinzenz Feenstra <vfeenstr(a)redhat.com =
<mailto:vfeenstr@redhat.com>> wrote:
=20
> On Jan 16, 2017, at 11:22 AM, Roy Golan <rgolan(a)redhat.com =
<mailto:rgolan@redhat.com>> wrote:
>=20
>=20
>=20
> On 16 January 2017 at 11:39, Guy Chen <guchen(a)redhat.com =
<mailto:guchen@redhat.com>> wrote:
> O.k, Thanks !
>=20
> Regards,
>=20
> -----------------------------
> Guy Chen, RHEV-M
> Performance
> O: +972.9.7692152 <tel:%2B972.9.7692152> M: +972.52.8545202 =
<tel:%2B972.52.8545202>
> guchen(a)redhat.com <mailto:guchen@redhat.com>
>=20
> ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Vinzenz Feenstra" <vfeenstr(a)redhat.com =
<mailto:vfeenstr@redhat.com>>
> > To: "Guy Chen" <guchen(a)redhat.com
<mailto:guchen@redhat.com>>
> > Cc: devel(a)ovirt.org <mailto:devel@ovirt.org>, "Eyal Berman" =
<eberman(a)redhat.com <mailto:eberman@redhat.com>>, "Unname" =
<rgolan(a)redhat.com <mailto:rgolan@redhat.com>>
> > Sent: Monday, January 16, 2017 11:23:19 AM
> > Subject: Re: ovirt-guest-agent-common question
> >
> >
> > > On Jan 16, 2017, at 10:18 AM, Guy Chen <guchen(a)redhat.com =
<mailto:guchen@redhat.com>> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > After i am installing ovirt-guest-agent-common shutdown of a VM =
takes about
> > > 90 seconds instead of 30 seconds without the agent.
> > > I am running on rhvm 4.1 build 4, host, engine and VM all are =
rhel
7.3,
> > > agent version is
ovirt-guest-agent-common-1.0.13-2.el7ev.noarch.
> > > Has anyone encounter this issue ?
> >
> > This is pretty normal as there=E2=80=99s a timeout letting the =
users
logged in save
> > their work etc. So the reboot is scheduled.
> > This is not an issue, this is simply by design.
> >
>=20
> @Vinzenz If there is no logged in user this should be as quick as =
without the
tool and I guess there isn't a user logged in @Guy?
=20
Well, the definition of =E2=80=98Someone is logged in=E2=80=99 is =
quite difficult
to answer on linux machine.
=20
Correct but if the system is doing nothing why would adding guest =
agent is adding
> 1 min to the shutdown? =20
The agent adds that, what it gets told to, it=E2=80=99s not hardcoded if =
that is your point. =E2=80=9CIf the system is doing nothing=E2=80=9D is =
again very subjective and not easy to answer.
Anyway you=E2=80=99re welcome to change that delay if you insist. It=E2=80=
=99s sent by the engine via the VM.shutdown verb on vdsm as the delay =
parameter in seconds.
Just I don=E2=80=99t support this change and I do see too many potential =
pitfalls in trying to determine if we should skip the delay or not - As =
I said, it=E2=80=99s a matter which is too subjective.
=20
> =20
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > -----------------------------
> > > Guy Chen, RHEV-M
> > > Performance
> > > O: +972.9.7692152 <tel:+972%209-769-2152> M: =
+972.52.8545202 <tel:+972%2052-854-5202>
> > > guchen(a)redhat.com <mailto:guchen@redhat.com>
> > >
> >
> >
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class=3D""><br class=3D""><div><blockquote
type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On Jan 17, 2017, at 9:43 AM, Roy Golan <<a =
href=3D"mailto:rgolan@redhat.com"
class=3D"">rgolan(a)redhat.com</a>&gt; =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div
class=3D""><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><br style=3D"font-family:
Helvetica; =
font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; =
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start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
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class=3D""><div class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"font-family:
Helvetica; =
font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; =
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: =
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;">On 16 =
January 2017 at 12:35, Vinzenz Feenstra<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><span
dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D""><<a href=3D"mailto:vfeenstr@redhat.com"
target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">vfeenstr(a)redhat.com</a>&gt;</span><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>wrote:<br =
class=3D""><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote"
style=3D"margin: 0px 0px =
0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, =
204); border-left-style: solid; padding-left: 1ex;"><div =
style=3D"word-wrap: break-word;" class=3D""><br
class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><div class=3D""><div
class=3D"h5"><blockquote type=3D"cite" =
class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Jan 16, 2017, at 11:22 AM, Roy
Golan =
<<a href=3D"mailto:rgolan@redhat.com" target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">rgolan(a)redhat.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"m_3987307417713686096Apple-interchange-newline"><div =
class=3D""><br =
class=3D"m_3987307417713686096Apple-interchange-newline"><br =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; word-spacing: 0px;" class=3D""><div
class=3D"gmail_quote" =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; word-spacing: 0px;">On 16 January 2017 at 11:39, Guy Chen<span =
class=3D"m_3987307417713686096Apple-converted-space"> </span><span
=
dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><<a
href=3D"mailto:guchen@redhat.com" =
target=3D"_blank"
class=3D"">guchen(a)redhat.com</a>&gt;</span><span =
class=3D"m_3987307417713686096Apple-converted-space"> </span>wrote<wb=
r class=3D"">:<br class=3D""><blockquote
class=3D"gmail_quote" =
style=3D"margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; =
border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-style: solid; =
padding-left: 1ex;">O.k, Thanks !<br class=3D""><span =
class=3D"m_3987307417713686096im m_3987307417713686096HOEnZb"><br =
class=3D"">Regards,<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">-----------------------------<br class=3D"">Guy
Chen, =
RHEV-M<br class=3D"">Performance<br class=3D"">O:<span
=
class=3D"m_3987307417713686096Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
=
href=3D"tel:%2B972.9.7692152" value=3D"+97297692152"
target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">+972.9.7692152</a>
<span =
class=3D"m_3987307417713686096Apple-converted-space"> </span>M:<span
=
class=3D"m_3987307417713686096Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
=
href=3D"tel:%2B972.52.8545202" value=3D"+972528545202"
target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">+972.52.8545202</a><br class=3D""><a =
href=3D"mailto:guchen@redhat.com" target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">guchen(a)redhat.com</a><br class=3D""><br
class=3D""></span><div =
class=3D"m_3987307417713686096HOEnZb"><div =
class=3D"m_3987307417713686096h5">----- Original Message -----<br =
class=3D"">> From: "Vinzenz Feenstra" <<a =
href=3D"mailto:vfeenstr@redhat.com" target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">vfeenstr(a)redhat.com</a>&gt;<br
class=3D"">> To: "Guy Chen" =
<<a href=3D"mailto:guchen@redhat.com" target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">guchen(a)redhat.com</a>&gt;<br
class=3D"">> Cc:<span =
class=3D"m_3987307417713686096Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
=
href=3D"mailto:devel@ovirt.org" target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">devel(a)ovirt.org</a>, "Eyal Berman" <<a
=
href=3D"mailto:eberman@redhat.com" target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">eberman(a)redhat.com</a>&gt;, "Unname"
<<a =
href=3D"mailto:rgolan@redhat.com" target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">rgolan(a)redhat.com</a>&gt;<br
class=3D"">> Sent: Monday, =
January 16, 2017 11:23:19 AM<br class=3D"">> Subject: Re: =
ovirt-guest-agent-common question<br class=3D"">><br
class=3D"">><br=
class=3D"">> > On Jan 16, 2017, at 10:18 AM, Guy Chen
<<a =
href=3D"mailto:guchen@redhat.com" target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">guchen(a)redhat.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br
class=3D"">> ><br =
class=3D"">> ><br class=3D"">> >
Hi<br class=3D"">> =
><br class=3D"">> > After i am installing =
ovirt-guest-agent-common shutdown of a VM takes about<br
class=3D"">> =
> 90 seconds instead of 30 seconds without the agent.<br =
class=3D"">> > I am running on rhvm 4.1 build 4, host, engine
and =
VM all are rhel 7.3,<br class=3D"">> > agent version is =
ovirt-guest-agent-common-1.0.1<wbr class=3D"">3-2.el7ev.noarch.<br =
class=3D"">> > Has anyone encounter this issue ?<br =
class=3D"">><br class=3D"">> This is pretty
normal as there=E2=80=99=
s a timeout letting the users logged in save<br class=3D"">> their
=
work etc. So the reboot is scheduled.<br class=3D"">> This is not
an =
issue, this is simply by design.<br class=3D"">><br =
class=3D""></div></div></blockquote><div
class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">@Vinzenz If there is
no logged in user =
this should be as quick as without the tool and I guess there isn't a =
user logged in @Guy?<br
class=3D""></div></div></div></blockquote><div =
class=3D""><br
class=3D""></div></div></div><div
class=3D"">Well, the =
definition of =E2=80=98Someone is logged in=E2=80=99 is quite difficult =
to answer on linux machine.</div></div></div></blockquote><div
=
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div
class=3D"">Correct but if the =
system is doing nothing why would adding guest agent is adding > 1 =
min to the shutdown? <span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><br =
class=3D""></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br
=
class=3D""></div><div>The agent adds that, what it gets told to,
it=E2=80=99=
s not hardcoded if that is your point. =E2=80=9CIf the system is doing =
nothing=E2=80=9D is again very subjective and not easy to =
answer.</div><div>Anyway you=E2=80=99re welcome to change that delay if =
you insist. It=E2=80=99s sent by the engine via the VM.shutdown verb on =
vdsm as the delay parameter in seconds.</div><div><br =
class=3D""></div><div>Just I don=E2=80=99t support this change
and I do =
see too many potential pitfalls in trying to determine if we should skip =
the delay or not - As I said, it=E2=80=99s a matter which is too =
subjective.</div><br class=3D""><blockquote
type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><div class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"font-family:
Helvetica; =
font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; =
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: =
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: =
0px;"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0px 0px
0px =
0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); =
border-left-style: solid; padding-left: 1ex;"><div style=3D"word-wrap: =
break-word;" class=3D""><div class=3D""><span
class=3D""><br =
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class=3D""><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; =
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class=3D""> <br
class=3D""></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" =
style=3D"margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; =
border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-style: solid; =
padding-left: 1ex;"><div
class=3D"m_3987307417713686096HOEnZb"><div =
class=3D"m_3987307417713686096h5">> ><br
class=3D"">> > =
Regards,<br class=3D"">> ><br
class=3D"">> > =
-----------------------------<br class=3D"">> > Guy Chen, =
RHEV-M<br class=3D"">> > Performance<br
class=3D"">> > =
O:<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><a =
href=3D"tel:+972%209-769-2152" value=3D"+97297692152"
target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">+972.9.7692152</a>
<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>M:<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><a =
href=3D"tel:+972%2052-854-5202" value=3D"+972528545202"
target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">+972.52.8545202</a><br class=3D"">>
><span =
class=3D"m_3987307417713686096Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
=
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On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 11:05 AM, Vinzenz Feenstra <vfeenstr(a)redhat.com>
wrote:
On Jan 17, 2017, at 9:43 AM, Roy Golan <rgolan(a)redhat.com> wrote:
On 16 January 2017 at 12:35, Vinzenz Feenstra <vfeenstr(a)redhat.com> wrote:
>
> On Jan 16, 2017, at 11:22 AM, Roy Golan <rgolan(a)redhat.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> On 16 January 2017 at 11:39, Guy Chen <guchen(a)redhat.com> wrote:
>
>> O.k, Thanks !
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> -----------------------------
>> Guy Chen, RHEV-M
>> Performance
>> O: +972.9.7692152 M: +972.52.8545202
>> guchen(a)redhat.com
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Vinzenz Feenstra" <vfeenstr(a)redhat.com>
>> > To: "Guy Chen" <guchen(a)redhat.com>
>> > Cc: devel(a)ovirt.org, "Eyal Berman" <eberman(a)redhat.com>,
"Unname" <
>> rgolan(a)redhat.com>
>> > Sent: Monday, January 16, 2017 11:23:19 AM
>> > Subject: Re: ovirt-guest-agent-common question
>> >
>> >
>> > > On Jan 16, 2017, at 10:18 AM, Guy Chen <guchen(a)redhat.com>
wrote:
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Hi
>> > >
>> > > After i am installing ovirt-guest-agent-common shutdown of a VM
>> takes about
>> > > 90 seconds instead of 30 seconds without the agent.
>> > > I am running on rhvm 4.1 build 4, host, engine and VM all are rhel
>> 7.3,
>> > > agent version is ovirt-guest-agent-common-1.0.13-2.el7ev.noarch.
>> > > Has anyone encounter this issue ?
>> >
>> > This is pretty normal as there’s a timeout letting the users logged in
>> save
>> > their work etc. So the reboot is scheduled.
>> > This is not an issue, this is simply by design.
>> >
>>
>
> @Vinzenz If there is no logged in user this should be as quick as without
> the tool and I guess there isn't a user logged in @Guy?
>
>
> Well, the definition of ‘Someone is logged in’ is quite difficult to
> answer on linux machine.
>
Correct but if the system is doing nothing why would adding guest agent is
adding > 1 min to the shutdown?
The agent adds that, what it gets told to, it’s not hardcoded if that is
your point. “If the system is doing nothing” is again very subjective and
not easy to answer.
Anyway you’re welcome to change that delay if you insist. It’s sent by the
engine via the VM.shutdown verb on vdsm as the delay parameter in seconds.
Just I don’t support this change and I do see too many potential pitfalls
in trying to determine if we should skip the delay or not - As I said, it’s
a matter which is too subjective.
I agree it's subjective, but the resulting user experience isn't pleasant
either - it is perceived as if oVirt is making the VM slow, for no good
reason. I do think we could do a better job. For example, not to slow down
server OS VMs (we do not expect users logged in, and to save their work,
etc.), or only do it in Windows and when X is running, etc.
Y.
>
>
>> > >
>> > > Regards,
>> > >
>> > > -----------------------------
>> > > Guy Chen, RHEV-M
>> > > Performance
>> > > O: +972.9.7692152 <+972%209-769-2152> M: +972.52.8545202
>> <+972%2052-854-5202>
>> > > guchen(a)redhat.com
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>>
>
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On Jan 17, 2017, at 7:27 PM, Yaniv Kaul <ykaul(a)redhat.com>
wrote:
=20
=20
=20
On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 11:05 AM, Vinzenz Feenstra =
<vfeenstr(a)redhat.com
<mailto:vfeenstr@redhat.com>> wrote:
=20
> On Jan 17, 2017, at 9:43 AM, Roy Golan <rgolan(a)redhat.com =
<mailto:rgolan@redhat.com>> wrote:
>=20
>=20
>=20
> On 16 January 2017 at 12:35, Vinzenz Feenstra <vfeenstr(a)redhat.com =
<mailto:vfeenstr@redhat.com>> wrote:
>=20
>> On Jan 16, 2017, at 11:22 AM, Roy Golan <rgolan(a)redhat.com =
<mailto:rgolan@redhat.com>> wrote:
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> On 16 January 2017 at 11:39, Guy Chen <guchen(a)redhat.com =
<mailto:guchen@redhat.com>> wrote:
>> O.k, Thanks !
>>=20
>> Regards,
>>=20
>> -----------------------------
>> Guy Chen, RHEV-M
>> Performance
>> O: +972.9.7692152 <tel:%2B972.9.7692152> M: +972.52.8545202 =
<tel:%2B972.52.8545202>
>> guchen(a)redhat.com <mailto:guchen@redhat.com>
>>=20
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Vinzenz Feenstra" <vfeenstr(a)redhat.com =
<mailto:vfeenstr@redhat.com>>
>> > To: "Guy Chen" <guchen(a)redhat.com
<mailto:guchen@redhat.com>>
>> > Cc: devel(a)ovirt.org <mailto:devel@ovirt.org>, "Eyal Berman"
=
<eberman(a)redhat.com <mailto:eberman@redhat.com>>, "Unname"
=
<rgolan(a)redhat.com <mailto:rgolan@redhat.com>>
>> > Sent: Monday, January 16, 2017 11:23:19 AM
>> > Subject: Re: ovirt-guest-agent-common question
>> >
>> >
>> > > On Jan 16, 2017, at 10:18 AM, Guy Chen <guchen(a)redhat.com =
<mailto:guchen@redhat.com>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Hi
>> > >
>> > > After i am installing ovirt-guest-agent-common shutdown of a VM =
takes about
>> > > 90 seconds instead of 30 seconds without the
agent.
>> > > I am running on rhvm 4.1 build 4, host, engine and VM all are =
rhel 7.3,
>> > > agent version is
ovirt-guest-agent-common-1.0.13-2.el7ev.noarch.
>> > > Has anyone encounter this issue ?
>> >
>> > This is pretty normal as there=E2=80=99s a timeout letting the =
users
logged in save
>> > their work etc. So the reboot is scheduled.
>> > This is not an issue, this is simply by design.
>> >
>>=20
>> @Vinzenz If there is no logged in user this should be as quick as =
without
the tool and I guess there isn't a user logged in @Guy?
>=20
> Well, the definition of =E2=80=98Someone is logged in=E2=80=99 is =
quite
difficult to answer on linux machine.
>=20
> Correct but if the system is doing nothing why would adding guest =
agent is
adding > 1 min to the shutdown? =20
=20
The agent adds that, what it gets told to, it=E2=80=99s not hardcoded =
if that is
your point. =E2=80=9CIf the system is doing nothing=E2=80=9D =
is again very subjective and not easy to answer.
Anyway you=E2=80=99re welcome to change that delay if you insist. =
It=E2=80=99s sent by the engine via the VM.shutdown verb on vdsm as the =
delay parameter in seconds.
=20
Just I don=E2=80=99t support this change and I do see too many =
potential pitfalls
in trying to determine if we should skip the delay or =
not - As I said, it=E2=80=99s a matter which is too subjective.
=20
I agree it's subjective, but the resulting user experience isn't =
pleasant
either - it is perceived as if oVirt is making the VM slow, =
for no good reason. I do think we could do a better job. For example, =
not to slow down server OS VMs (we do not expect users logged in, and to =
save their work, etc.), or only do it in Windows and when X is running, =
etc.
Sure, that=E2=80=99s not a big deal the engine easily can set the value =
to 0 if the type is a server. If we really have users getting annoyed by =
this. I have never heard of it however. So this seems not to be a very =
big problem for most users, rather a developer or tester issue because =
they need to work on that faster.
Y.
=20
=20
>=20
>> =20
>> > >
>> > > Regards,
>> > >
>> > > -----------------------------
>> > > Guy Chen, RHEV-M
>> > > Performance
>> > > O: +972.9.7692152 <tel:+972%209-769-2152> M: =
+972.52.8545202 <tel:+972%2052-854-5202>
>> > > guchen(a)redhat.com <mailto:guchen@redhat.com>
>> > >
>> >
>> >
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Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 11:05 AM, Vinzenz Feenstra<span =
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class=3D""><<a href=3D"mailto:vfeenstr@redhat.com"
target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">vfeenstr(a)redhat.com</a>&gt;</span><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>wrote:<br =
class=3D""><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote"
style=3D"margin: 0px 0px =
0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, =
204); border-left-style: solid; padding-left: 1ex;"><div =
style=3D"word-wrap: break-word;" class=3D""><br
class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><div class=3D""><div
class=3D"h5"><blockquote type=3D"cite" =
class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Jan 17, 2017, at 9:43 AM, Roy
Golan <<a =
href=3D"mailto:rgolan@redhat.com" target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">rgolan(a)redhat.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"m_-981623039192016931Apple-interchange-newline"><div =
class=3D""><br =
class=3D"m_-981623039192016931Apple-interchange-newline"><br =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; word-spacing: 0px;" class=3D""><div
class=3D"gmail_quote" =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; word-spacing: 0px;">On 16 January 2017 at 12:35, Vinzenz =
Feenstra<span =
class=3D"m_-981623039192016931Apple-converted-space"> </span><span
=
dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><<a
href=3D"mailto:vfeenstr@redhat.com" =
target=3D"_blank"
class=3D"">vfeenstr(a)redhat.com</a>&gt;</span><span =
class=3D"m_-981623039192016931Apple-converted-space"><wbr =
class=3D""> </span>wrote:<br
class=3D""><blockquote =
class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; =
border-left-width: 1px; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); =
border-left-style: solid; padding-left: 1ex;"><div style=3D"word-wrap: =
break-word;" class=3D""><br class=3D""><div
class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><div
class=3D"m_-981623039192016931h5"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Jan 16,
2017, at 11:22 AM, =
Roy Golan <<a href=3D"mailto:rgolan@redhat.com"
target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">rgolan(a)redhat.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"m_-981623039192016931m_3987307417713686096Apple-interchange-newli=
ne"><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D"m_-981623039192016931m_3987307417713686096Apple-interchange-newli=
ne"><br style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: =
normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: =
normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; =
white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; =
font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; =
letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;">On 16 =
January 2017 at 11:39, Guy Chen<span =
class=3D"m_-981623039192016931m_3987307417713686096Apple-converted-space">=
</span><span dir=3D"ltr"
class=3D""><<a =
href=3D"mailto:guchen@redhat.com" target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">guchen(a)redhat.com</a>&gt;</span><span =
class=3D"m_-981623039192016931m_3987307417713686096Apple-converted-space">=
</span>wrote<wbr class=3D"">:<br
class=3D""><blockquote =
class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; =
border-left-width: 1px; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); =
border-left-style: solid; padding-left: 1ex;">O.k, Thanks !<br =
class=3D""><span
class=3D"m_-981623039192016931m_3987307417713686096im =
m_-981623039192016931m_3987307417713686096HOEnZb"><br =
class=3D"">Regards,<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">-----------------------------<br class=3D"">Guy
Chen, =
RHEV-M<br class=3D"">Performance<br class=3D"">O:<span
=
class=3D"m_-981623039192016931m_3987307417713686096Apple-converted-space">=
</span><a href=3D"tel:%2B972.9.7692152"
value=3D"+97297692152" =
target=3D"_blank" class=3D"">+972.9.7692152</a>
=
<span =
class=3D"m_-981623039192016931m_3987307417713686096Apple-converted-space">=
</span>M:<span =
class=3D"m_-981623039192016931m_3987307417713686096Apple-converted-space">=
</span><a href=3D"tel:%2B972.52.8545202"
value=3D"+972528545202" =
target=3D"_blank" class=3D"">+972.52.8545202</a><br
class=3D""><a =
href=3D"mailto:guchen@redhat.com" target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">guchen(a)redhat.com</a><br class=3D""><br
class=3D""></span><div =
class=3D"m_-981623039192016931m_3987307417713686096HOEnZb"><div =
class=3D"m_-981623039192016931m_3987307417713686096h5">----- Original =
Message -----<br class=3D"">> From: "Vinzenz Feenstra"
<<a =
href=3D"mailto:vfeenstr@redhat.com" target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">vfeenstr(a)redhat.com</a>&gt;<br
class=3D"">> To: "Guy Chen" =
<<a href=3D"mailto:guchen@redhat.com" target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">guchen(a)redhat.com</a>&gt;<br
class=3D"">> Cc:<span =
class=3D"m_-981623039192016931m_3987307417713686096Apple-converted-space">=
</span><a href=3D"mailto:devel@ovirt.org"
target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">devel(a)ovirt.org</a>, "Eyal Berman" <<a
=
href=3D"mailto:eberman@redhat.com" target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">eberman(a)redhat.com</a>&gt;, "Unname"
<<a =
href=3D"mailto:rgolan@redhat.com" target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">rgolan(a)redhat.com</a>&gt;<br
class=3D"">> Sent: Monday, =
January 16, 2017 11:23:19 AM<br class=3D"">> Subject: Re: =
ovirt-guest-agent-common question<br class=3D"">><br
class=3D"">><br=
class=3D"">> > On Jan 16, 2017, at 10:18 AM, Guy Chen
<<a =
href=3D"mailto:guchen@redhat.com" target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">guchen(a)redhat.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br
class=3D"">> ><br =
class=3D"">> ><br class=3D"">> >
Hi<br class=3D"">> =
><br class=3D"">> > After i am installing =
ovirt-guest-agent-common shutdown of a VM takes about<br
class=3D"">> =
> 90 seconds instead of 30 seconds without the agent.<br =
class=3D"">> > I am running on rhvm 4.1 build 4, host, engine
and =
VM all are rhel 7.3,<br class=3D"">> > agent version is =
ovirt-guest-agent-common-1.0.1<wbr class=3D"">3-2.el7ev.noarch.<br =
class=3D"">> > Has anyone encounter this issue ?<br =
class=3D"">><br class=3D"">> This is pretty
normal as there=E2=80=99=
s a timeout letting the users logged in save<br class=3D"">> their
=
work etc. So the reboot is scheduled.<br class=3D"">> This is not
an =
issue, this is simply by design.<br class=3D"">><br =
class=3D""></div></div></blockquote><div
class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">@Vinzenz If there is
no logged in user =
this should be as quick as without the tool and I guess there isn't a =
user logged in @Guy?<br
class=3D""></div></div></div></blockquote><div =
class=3D""><br
class=3D""></div></div></div><div
class=3D"">Well, the =
definition of =E2=80=98Someone is logged in=E2=80=99 is quite difficult =
to answer on linux machine.</div></div></div></blockquote><div
=
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div
class=3D"">Correct but if the =
system is doing nothing why would adding guest agent is adding > 1 =
min to the shutdown? <span =
class=3D"m_-981623039192016931Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
=
class=3D""></div></div></div></blockquote><div
class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div></div></div><div
class=3D"">The agent adds that, what =
it gets told to, it=E2=80=99s not hardcoded if that is your point. =E2=80=9C=
If the system is doing nothing=E2=80=9D is again very subjective and not =
easy to answer.</div><div class=3D"">Anyway you=E2=80=99re welcome
to =
change that delay if you insist. It=E2=80=99s sent by the engine via the =
VM.shutdown verb on vdsm as the delay parameter in seconds.</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div
class=3D"">Just I don=E2=80=99t =
support this change and I do see too many potential pitfalls in trying =
to determine if we should skip the delay or not - As I said, it=E2=80=99s =
a matter which is too
subjective.</div></div></div></blockquote><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div
class=3D"">I agree it's subjective, =
but the resulting user experience isn't pleasant either - it is =
perceived as if oVirt is making the VM slow, for no good reason. I do =
think we could do a better job. For example, not to slow down server OS =
VMs (we do not expect users logged in, and to save their work, etc.), or =
only do it in Windows and when X is running, =
etc.</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br
class=3D""></div><div>Sure, =
that=E2=80=99s not a big deal the engine easily can set the value to 0 =
if the type is a server. If we really have users getting annoyed by =
this. I have never heard of it however. So this seems not to be a very =
big problem for most users, rather a developer or tester issue because =
they need to work on that faster.</div><br class=3D""><blockquote
=
type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D""><div
class=3D"gmail_quote" =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div
class=3D"">Y.</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><blockquote
class=3D"gmail_quote" =
style=3D"margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; =
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padding-left: 1ex;"><div style=3D"word-wrap: break-word;"
class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><span class=3D""><br
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" =
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style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
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normal; word-spacing: 0px;"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" =
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border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-style: solid; =
padding-left: 1ex;"><div style=3D"word-wrap: break-word;"
class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><span class=3D""><br
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" =
class=3D""><div class=3D""><div
class=3D"gmail_quote" =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; word-spacing: 0px;"><div class=3D""> <br =
class=3D""></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote"
style=3D"margin: 0px =
0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, =
204); border-left-style: solid; padding-left: 1ex;"><div =
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class=3D"m_-981623039192016931m_3987307417713686096h5">>
><br =
class=3D"">> > Regards,<br class=3D"">>
><br class=3D"">> =
> -----------------------------<br class=3D"">> > Guy
Chen, =
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