----- Original Message -----
From: "David Caro" <dcaroest(a)redhat.com>
To: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl(a)redhat.com>
Cc: "infra" <infra(a)ovirt.org>, "Dave Neary"
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2014 12:01:40 PM
Subject: Re: Scripting guidelines
El 21/02/14 00:40, Alon Bar-Lev escribió:
> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "David Caro" <dcaroest(a)redhat.com>
>> To: "infra" <infra(a)ovirt.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2014 10:52:23 PM
>> Subject: Scripting guidelines
>> Hi everyone!
>> Lately I've had a hard time to properly review some patches containing
>> scripts to manage our infrastructure because there's no guidelines. So I
>> a wiki page with a proposal . It's made up as a mix of some already
>> The reason to wrote a bash style guide and not a shell stile guide is
>> think that bash is widely adopted (default GNU shell) and provides enough
>> advantages to sacrifice some portability. I think that most of our
>> and management scripts will never be run on non-GNU OSes.
>> POSIX compliance should be only used when really needed, for example,
>> build a specific project, that might be run on non-GNU based systems in
>> This thread is to start a discussion about it so please, share your
>> concerns (and proposals).
> We already discussed that, I think it is wrong for trivial scripts to use
> No need to discuss that over and over.
> The problem is that there is nobody to have authority to decide anything.
> Open Source is not anarchy nor democracy, there should be strict hierarchy.
> And we lack that, so anarchy is in action.
From the company you work for, and a pretty old and active participation on
source projects, Dave (cc'd) seems to disagree with your view of open source
So how are open source communities led? Largely by the people doing the work.
Most groups have a loosely defined common goal (build software widgets, or
develop a awesome, open source, computer-based fourth grade math curriculum),
and decisions are made by the people doing the work. There's no manager in
dictating edicts about how things must be done or what objectives to seek
Many people object to this method, call it anarchy, and claim that it impedes
progress. It's true that if the same set of people was coerced into a single
direction, they might make more progress, but there likely wouldn't be the
level of innovation.
You forget the at the above statement was constructed before 99% of "community"
participants are on single vendor payroll, the implication of that on the free open source
movement are yet to be determined, but the direction is quite clear.
The fact that there is no specific ethic, does not mean that at every project there is an
infrastructure of leadership, name a non vendor controlled project and I will seek it for
> As for infra, it is not part of anything we distribute so it is not that
> important, however, standards compliance is something that should be
>>  http://www.ovirt.org/Bash_style_guide
>> David Caro
>> Red Hat S.L.
>> Continuous Integration Engineer - EMEA ENG Virtualization R&D
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