Re: How to go about building up trust?
On 06/22/2012 08:45 AM, Dan Kenigsberg wrote:
On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 05:00:31PM -0400, Robert Middleswarth wrote:
> Sorry I forgot to include the subject line?
>
> On 06/21/2012 04:57 PM, Robert Middleswarth wrote:
>> A few months ago It was asked on infra@ about how the group should
>> go about building up trust so you all would feel comfortable
>> handing out e.g. ssh and sudo access to servers. Since there is
>> someone activity (me) asking seeking to help and would need that
>> access I guess this is a good time to bring up the question again.
I am not aware of any other trick beyond building up reputation. Your
personal involvement in the project goes a long way to prove that you
indeed care for it.
Agreed there is some subjective aspects to it.
However, I do not know to quantify how much reputation would one need
to
get a root access, a permission that is very easy to abuse and very hard
to take away.
I agree as well.
Another important issue beyond trust is NEED. Do you really need full
su
access? I personally do not have such an access, and have to ask
for every little host tweak specifically.
Dan.
Well that is a good question. I have the same issue in my company were
we know the people. We have to balance access and need. Some times
that need lets someone have root access to a certain system but most of
the time we just put the pieces together.
From my understanding there are 3 core servers and a few Jenkins slaves
involved right now. The webserver/listserver/wiki/kitchen sink box,
Gerrit, and Jenkins. So access to one server gives you access to just
about everything. So you are right root access shouldn't be given to
just anyone. But the current team of people who have access aren't
doing it full time and I wouldn't expect the project to have people
doing it full time. The question is and it was purposed by quaid once
you have someone that you feel has the reputation to be given access
what kind of process should they go though. Not saying I have hit that
stage yet. I would assume at a min we would need to confirm they
exist. Example have a phone and a mailing address so we are sure we
have legit person not someone pretending to be someone else. Do we
require a face to face with an existing member to show a Driver
License? It is the old web of trust question. How do you trust someone
on the Internet. Answer you don't unless you verify them off-line in
some way.
Thanks
Robert