This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigFF6C21BF37F052A74731D54C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 11/28/2012 05:08 AM, Mike Kolesnik wrote: Three quick reactions. First, we're in the middle of a MediaWiki migration, so we need to wait a period of time for that to be completed and fix any problems. One or two weeks should be plenty of time. Second, from a project perspective, if it helps contributors, it's worth considering how to make it available for participation. Third, form a personal and project perspective, I get very nervous with each piece of non-FOSS that we rely upon for the infrastructure of participation. From a purely practical standpoint, it puts us at risk in several ways. Since this isn't a key infrastructure component and it's provided as a service, it's a relatively low risk. But I think we should approach proprietary solutions carefully, like sleeping tigers. Final thing to ponder - as content and code for oVirt is all licensed under the Apache License or Creative Commons, what would you do with these charts? I presume we have the right to license the chart itself, as a result of our own work. But if the tool that makes the free/open content is not FOSS, what does that mean about our ability to exercise essential freedoms around the charts? In other words, if I don't have the rights to freely use the creation tool, the free/opn provenance of the image is broken. It would be similar to using PhotoShop to create graphics for oVirt technical manuals, with the files all as PSDs that only PhotoShop can properly work with. This restricts the ability for others to contribute to the project unless they have PhotoShop, etc. (The above pondering is why projects such as Fedora require graphics work to be done with 100% free/open source images (no stock photos, etc.) and created using 100% FOSS tools.) - Karsten --=20 Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v' gpg: AD0E0C41 --------------enigFF6C21BF37F052A74731D54C Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" --------------enigFF6C21BF37F052A74731D54C--