LTS distro support?
Greetings. Approximately a year ago we discovered Kimchi and immediately tested it on FC23 since that was one of the distro's supported. The workgroups were very happy with having a browser GUI, and the sysop guys love that they can still work on virsh with the command line along with all their ansible scripts. So last fall we put it into production with U16.4 LTS (kimchi 2.3.0) since that was available at the time and it had newer qemu/libvirt than Cent 7.x We see that currently you moved on to kimchi/wok/ginger with 2.3.1 but the .deb was targeted to U16.10. Fortunately, it install fine on 16.04 but we are little worried that when 17.04 comes out, the compatibility with LTS will go away. What is your distro support strategy? Obviously with migration and the fact that libvirt is relatively stable, bringing up newer hosts is not that hard but it does seem to be a little unecessary and we would prefer to stick with a longer term distro, though swapping out every 2 year (i.e. U18.4 LTS) would certainly be fine. We are agnostic as to Ubuntu/Redhat but in this case Ubuntu had the newer tools and we actually noticed that things like storage migration worked better on Ubuntu 16 vs FC23 because of that. Thank you for your efforts either way. Sincerely WK
Hi, Thanks for your contact. It is always a pleasure to get information about who is using Kimchi. Usually we make an effort to test Kimchi in the latest version of Fedora, CentOS, openSUSE and Ubuntu available on time of a new Kimchi release. We are trying now to get it tested on Debian too as it is required to get the Kimchi package available in the official Ubuntu repositories. (When I say 'we' I am talking about the most active developers in Kimchi community) It would be good to have Kimchi supported on a Ubuntu LTS version as well, but for that we will need a developer continually using it to report and fix the issues and, we don't have one today. Can you help us on that? Maybe get someone validating Kimchi time by time on a Ubuntu LTS version and report the issues found. That way we can have a better view on what is needed to make the Ubuntu LTS support reality. Please, feel free to share your thoughts on that and how we can join efforts to make it happen. Regards, Aline Manera On 01/27/2017 04:53 PM, WK wrote:
Greetings.
Approximately a year ago we discovered Kimchi and immediately tested it on FC23 since that was one of the distro's supported.
The workgroups were very happy with having a browser GUI, and the sysop guys love that they can still work on virsh with the command line along with all their ansible scripts.
So last fall we put it into production with U16.4 LTS (kimchi 2.3.0) since that was available at the time and it had newer qemu/libvirt than Cent 7.x
We see that currently you moved on to kimchi/wok/ginger with 2.3.1 but the .deb was targeted to U16.10. Fortunately, it install fine on 16.04 but we are little worried that when 17.04 comes out, the compatibility with LTS will go away.
What is your distro support strategy?
Obviously with migration and the fact that libvirt is relatively stable, bringing up newer hosts is not that hard but it does seem to be a little unecessary and we would prefer to stick with a longer term distro, though swapping out every 2 year (i.e. U18.4 LTS) would certainly be fine.
We are agnostic as to Ubuntu/Redhat but in this case Ubuntu had the newer tools and we actually noticed that things like storage migration worked better on Ubuntu 16 vs FC23 because of that.
Thank you for your efforts either way.
Sincerely
WK
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On 1/30/2017 6:41 AM, Aline Manera wrote:
It would be good to have Kimchi supported on a Ubuntu LTS version as well, but for that we will need a developer continually using it to report and fix the issues and, we don't have one today. Can you help us on that? Maybe get someone validating Kimchi time by time on a Ubuntu LTS version and report the issues found.
I am happy to help out. Just tell me what you need as I'm more of a sysadmin then a developer, but I'm happy to run tests and I actually have some lab Dell 2950s with 32GB of RAM that could be tasked for your purposes. The most recent debs, I looked at (2.3.1) worked fine on 16.04 LTS and installed without issue. They are stock minimal U16.04LTS with your debs installed. If you have newer ones send me a link and I'll see how they work. To date, we've not had any 'issues' with any of the U16 hosts that have been deployed. The only complaint that I would have at the moment is that if kimchi is allowed to create a qcow2 image its the older 0.10 version and we have to use qemu-img amend to turn it into 1.1 but that isn't OS specific <Grin> Sincerely, William Kern
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