4:51 a.m.
Any reason not to take this thread to devel(a)ovirt.org?
On 10/02/15 11:01, Yair Zaslavsky wrote:
----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tomas Jelinek" <tjelinek(a)redhat.com>
> To: "Yair Zaslavsky" <yzaslavs(a)redhat.com>
> Cc: "Martin Polednik" <mpolednik(a)redhat.com>, "Greg
Sheremeta" <gshereme(a)redhat.com>, "Martin Betak"
> <mbetak(a)redhat.com>, "Doron Fediuck" <doron(a)redhat.com>,
"sphoorti joglekar" <sphoorti.joglekar(a)gmail.com>,
> movirt(a)ovirt.org
> Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 10:05:47 AM
> Subject: Re: Some thoughts about moVirt
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Yair Zaslavsky" <yzaslavs(a)redhat.com>
>> To: "Tomas Jelinek" <tjelinek(a)redhat.com>
>> Cc: "Martin Polednik" <mpolednik(a)redhat.com>, "Greg
Sheremeta"
>> <gshereme(a)redhat.com>, "Martin Betak"
>> <mbetak(a)redhat.com>, "Doron Fediuck" <doron(a)redhat.com>,
"sphoorti
>> joglekar" <sphoorti.joglekar(a)gmail.com>,
>> movirt(a)ovirt.org
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 8:50:31 AM
>> Subject: Re: Some thoughts about moVirt
>>
>> Ok, so I'm waiting for some documentation on how I can start working on
>> movirt
>
> good start is this - a step by step how to setup the devel env:
> https://github.com/matobet/movirt
>
>> - i.e - I'm at my other in law's house - we have DSL modem +
>> wireless network at home.
>> I have Galaxy note S4, linux machine
>
> this is fine
>
>> + eclipse + android plugin. Now what?
>
> this is not :) eclipse has been pretty much abandoned by google and setting
> up the devel env in it is somewhere in between impossible and totally
> impossible.
> Just follow the description from the page above - you need the
> http://tools.android.com/download/studio/canary/1-0-0
>
> Than you can use this IDE to either open an emulator of the android device
> (if you have strong machine it is fine) or you can connect your phone using
> USB to the machine and
> deploy movirt to it directly (it supports also remote debug, logs etc).
>
>> How can I "surf" from my mobile device to a local oVirt installation?
>
> so, if the machine with ovirt is connected to the wifi router and your mobile
> is connected to the same router, you are on the same network. So lets say
> the engine's ip is:
> 192.169.122.2
> and it is listening on https, than in movirt in settings page fill something
> like this:
> https://192.169.122.2:443/ovirt-engine/api
> and in the same settings pick "Disable HTTPS" to avoid to play with the
> certs.
>
> Tomas
I feel so ashamed now :) I should have realized by myself about the surfing part. This is
similar to how my engine connects to my host at home :)
>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Yair
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Tomas Jelinek" <tjelinek(a)redhat.com>
>>> To: "Yair Zaslavsky" <yzaslavs(a)redhat.com>
>>> Cc: "Martin Polednik" <mpolednik(a)redhat.com>, "Greg
Sheremeta"
>>> <gshereme(a)redhat.com>, "Martin Betak"
>>> <mbetak(a)redhat.com>, "Doron Fediuck"
<doron(a)redhat.com>, "sphoorti
>>> joglekar" <sphoorti.joglekar(a)gmail.com>,
>>> movirt(a)ovirt.org
>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 9:39:14 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Some thoughts about moVirt
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Yair Zaslavsky" <yzaslavs(a)redhat.com>
>>>> To: "Tomas Jelinek" <tjelinek(a)redhat.com>
>>>> Cc: "Martin Polednik" <mpolednik(a)redhat.com>, "Greg
Sheremeta"
>>>> <gshereme(a)redhat.com>, "Martin Betak"
>>>> <mbetak(a)redhat.com>, "Doron Fediuck"
<doron(a)redhat.com>, "sphoorti
>>>> joglekar" <sphoorti.joglekar(a)gmail.com>,
>>>> movirt(a)ovirt.org
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 6:21:18 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: Some thoughts about moVirt
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Tomas Jelinek" <tjelinek(a)redhat.com>
>>>>> To: "Yair Zaslavsky" <yzaslavs(a)redhat.com>
>>>>> Cc: "Martin Polednik" <mpolednik(a)redhat.com>,
"Greg Sheremeta"
>>>>> <gshereme(a)redhat.com>, "Martin Betak"
>>>>> <mbetak(a)redhat.com>, "Doron Fediuck"
<doron(a)redhat.com>, "sphoorti
>>>>> joglekar" <sphoorti.joglekar(a)gmail.com>,
>>>>> movirt(a)ovirt.org
>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 9, 2015 3:56:39 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: Some thoughts about moVirt
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Yair Zaslavsky" <yzaslavs(a)redhat.com>
>>>>>> To: "Martin Polednik" <mpolednik(a)redhat.com>
>>>>>> Cc: "Tomas Jelinek" <tjelinek(a)redhat.com>,
"Greg Sheremeta"
>>>>>> <gshereme(a)redhat.com>, "Martin Betak"
>>>>>> <mbetak(a)redhat.com>, "Doron Fediuck"
<doron(a)redhat.com>, "sphoorti
>>>>>> joglekar" <sphoorti.joglekar(a)gmail.com>,
>>>>>> movirt(a)ovirt.org
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 9, 2015 2:31:08 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Some thoughts about moVirt
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Martin Polednik"
<mpolednik(a)redhat.com>
>>>>>>> To: "Tomas Jelinek" <tjelinek(a)redhat.com>
>>>>>>> Cc: "Yair Zaslavsky" <yzaslavs(a)redhat.com>,
"Greg Sheremeta"
>>>>>>> <gshereme(a)redhat.com>, "Martin Betak"
>>>>>>> <mbetak(a)redhat.com>, "Doron Fediuck"
<doron(a)redhat.com>,
>>>>>>> "sphoorti
>>>>>>> joglekar" <sphoorti.joglekar(a)gmail.com>,
>>>>>>> movirt(a)ovirt.org
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 9, 2015 12:58:36 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Some thoughts about moVirt
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>> From: "Tomas Jelinek"
<tjelinek(a)redhat.com>
>>>>>>>> To: "Yair Zaslavsky"
<yzaslavs(a)redhat.com>
>>>>>>>> Cc: "Greg Sheremeta"
<gshereme(a)redhat.com>, "Martin Betak"
>>>>>>>> <mbetak(a)redhat.com>, "Doron Fediuck"
<doron(a)redhat.com>,
>>>>>>>> "sphoorti joglekar"
<sphoorti.joglekar(a)gmail.com>, "Martin
>>>>>>>> Polednik"
>>>>>>>> <mpoledni(a)redhat.com>, movirt(a)ovirt.org
>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 9, 2015 8:03:19 AM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Some thoughts about moVirt
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> (adding martin and movirt list - rest inline)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>> From: "Yair Zaslavsky"
<yzaslavs(a)redhat.com>
>>>>>>>>> To: "Greg Sheremeta"
<gshereme(a)redhat.com>
>>>>>>>>> Cc: "Martin Betak"
<mbetak(a)redhat.com>, "Doron Fediuck"
>>>>>>>>> <doron(a)redhat.com>,
>>>>>>>>> "sphoorti joglekar"
>>>>>>>>> <sphoorti.joglekar(a)gmail.com>, "Tomas
Jelinek"
>>>>>>>>> <tjelinek(a)redhat.com>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, February 8, 2015 3:37:46 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Some thoughts about moVirt
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>> From: "Greg Sheremeta"
<gshereme(a)redhat.com>
>>>>>>>>>> To: "Yair Zaslavsky"
<yzaslavs(a)redhat.com>
>>>>>>>>>> Cc: "Martin Betak"
<mbetak(a)redhat.com>, "Doron Fediuck"
>>>>>>>>>> <doron(a)redhat.com>,
>>>>>>>>>> "sphoorti joglekar"
>>>>>>>>>> <sphoorti.joglekar(a)gmail.com>, "Tomas
Jelinek"
>>>>>>>>>> <tjelinek(a)redhat.com>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, February 8, 2015 4:27:22 PM
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Some thoughts about moVirt
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Yair Zaslavsky"
<yzaslavs(a)redhat.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> To: "Martin Betak"
<mbetak(a)redhat.com>, "Greg Sheremeta"
>>>>>>>>>>> <gshereme(a)redhat.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> Cc: "Doron Fediuck"
<doron(a)redhat.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, February 8, 2015 2:12:20 AM
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Some thoughts about moVirt
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 1. I will be glad to see a wiki page on how
I can get
>>>>>>>>>>> involved
>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>> moVirt.
>>>>>>>>>>> For example, I have a new galaxy note4
phone. I will get
>>>>>>>>>>> soon
>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>> "monster
>>>>>>>>>>> machine" with 16 gigs, and some SSD,
and 1 TB disk on it.
>>>>>>>>>>> Ok,
>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>>> install
>>>>>>>>>>> ovirt all-in-one on it, now what?
>>>>>>>>>>> I don't even know how to configure
browsing via the
>>>>>>>>>>> mobile
>>>>>>>>>>> device
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>>> home
>>>>>>>>>>> network (i.e - access my mahcine) - yes, i
know this is
>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>> "strictly
>>>>>>>>>>> moVirt" problem, but if you provide
this info it will
>>>>>>>>>>> ease
>>>>>>>>>>> others
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> start
>>>>>>>>>>> developing. I would like to know how I can
start
>>>>>>>>>>> contributing
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> moVirt.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Maybe I missed it - what is the decision
about the
>>>>>>>>>>> technology?
>>>>>>>>>>> Native
>>>>>>>>>>> Java
>>>>>>>>>>> ? Cordova? Something else? If native, maybe
we should
>>>>>>>>>>> encourage
>>>>>>>>>>> somehow
>>>>>>>>>>> others to start porting to IOS/ Windows
Phone, etc?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>> Yair
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Adding Sphoorti and Tomas, as they are running
this show :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Oops, sorry for that.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 1. 16 GB is not "monster" -- better
put 32 or 64 in it :D
>>>>>>>>>> I think Sphoorti has already worked on some
documentation,
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> may
>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>> plans
>>>>>>>>>> to do more?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yeah, so as I wrote down, if I have let's say
some modem +
>>>>>>>>> router
>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>> home,
>>>>>>>>> how can I work against my "all-in-one"
ovirt installation?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Well, if both your phone and your monster machine is
connected
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> same
>>>>>>>> router you are both on the same network. So if you can
not see
>>>>>>>> oVirt
>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>> mobile, there is some problem with firewall on the
all-in-one.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On https://github.com/matobet/moVirt is the project
page. It
>>>>>>>> contains
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> sources, an unsigned build you can install to play with,
some
>>>>>>>> documentation
>>>>>>>> on how to setup movirt and also how to setup the devel
env.
>>>>>>>> Ping us all the time if you have any issues setting it
up. But
>>>>>>>> please
>>>>>>>> make
>>>>>>>> sure you are using exactly the versions of everything as
stated
>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>> wiki
>>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>> any change in gradle or android-studio can have fatal
>>>>>>>> consequences
>>>>>>>> :D
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Connecting to your environment - well, you need to have
access
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> engine's REST API from your phone. Than in the
moVirt you just
>>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> fill
>>>>>>>> the API URL, name and password.
>>>>>>>> Connecting securely using https is a bit tricky - you
need to
>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> CA
>>>>>>>> cert imported to your phone and connect to REST using
the
>>>>>>>> proper
>>>>>>>> URL
>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>> stated in the cert.
>>>>>>>> For devel env you can use the HTTPS and pick the
"Disable
>>>>>>>> HTTPS"
>>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>> not check the cert and will work without proper url
(e.g. with
>>>>>>>> IP)
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> without cert imported.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2. The decision was native Java. For now, afaik,
iOS isn't
>>>>>>>>>> being
>>>>>>>>>> considered.
>>>>>>>>>> Windows Phone is not popular, but it might be
more popular
>>>>>>>>>> among
>>>>>>>>>> server
>>>>>>>>>> admin types? Not sure.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Currently Android and surprisingly it works nice as-is
on
>>>>>>>> blackberry
>>>>>>>> :)
>>>>>>>> Even
>>>>>>>> the devel env with debugger etc(!!!)
>>>>>>>> Martin (Polednik) was considering to port it to iOS, not
sure -
>>>>>>>> Martin?
>>>>>>>> Also a friend of Sphoorti (the current OPW intern) is
very
>>>>>>>> insterested
>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> porting it to iOS as a different OPW. But this is very
>>>>>>>> uncertain
>>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>> sure
>>>>>>>> who could lead her and not sure about funding etc...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Heya,
>>>>>>> I'm looking into building native iOS oVirt app, so far
I've
>>>>>>> started
>>>>>>> designing
>>>>>>> the storyboard (UI) and interaction. Some of the decisions
were
>>>>>>> going
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>> objective-C (due to internal hate for swift) and going
iPhone
>>>>>>> only
>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> first
>>>>>>> iteration target in order to get the UI as iOSy as
possible.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But I have to admit that my experience with iOS or mobile
>>>>>>> development
>>>>>>> overall
>>>>>>> is quite limited, so I see no issues with either joint
efforts or
>>>>>>> developing
>>>>>>> two apps and seeing which one is more suited for iVirt. :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What about porting of spice client to IOS?
>>>>>
>>>>> there are issues even on android with it :) I'd say it would be
a lot
>>>>> of
>>>>> work
>>>>> porting it for not too much gain - we have the option of VNC.
>>>>
>>>> Cool! I did not think about it :)
>>>> Is there a VNC project for IOS that can be used? has anyone checked?
>>>
>>> Honestly not :) I have only googled it and there are tons of VNC clients
>>> for
>>> iOS so I hope some of them are usable for us.
>>> But I would be very surprised if none...
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> And until we don't have the client itself, I don't see too
much point
>>>>> in
>>>>> porting a console for it.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ok, good to know.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Greg
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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