4:01 a.m.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tomas Jelinek" <tjelinek(a)redhat.com>
To: "Yair Zaslavsky" <yzaslavs(a)redhat.com>
Cc: "Martin Polednik" <mpolednik(a)redhat.com>, "Greg Sheremeta"
<gshereme(a)redhat.com>, "Martin Betak"
<mbetak(a)redhat.com>, "Doron Fediuck" <doron(a)redhat.com>,
"sphoorti joglekar" <sphoorti.joglekar(a)gmail.com>,
movirt(a)ovirt.org
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 10:05:47 AM
Subject: Re: Some thoughts about moVirt
----- Original Message -----
> From: "Yair Zaslavsky" <yzaslavs(a)redhat.com>
> To: "Tomas Jelinek" <tjelinek(a)redhat.com>
> Cc: "Martin Polednik" <mpolednik(a)redhat.com>, "Greg
Sheremeta"
> <gshereme(a)redhat.com>, "Martin Betak"
> <mbetak(a)redhat.com>, "Doron Fediuck" <doron(a)redhat.com>,
"sphoorti
> joglekar" <sphoorti.joglekar(a)gmail.com>,
> movirt(a)ovirt.org
> Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 8:50:31 AM
> Subject: Re: Some thoughts about moVirt
>
> Ok, so I'm waiting for some documentation on how I can start working on
> movirt
good start is this - a step by step how to setup the devel env:
https://github.com/matobet/movirt
> - i.e - I'm at my other in law's house - we have DSL modem +
> wireless network at home.
> I have Galaxy note S4, linux machine
this is fine
> + eclipse + android plugin. Now what?
this is not :) eclipse has been pretty much abandoned by google and setting
up the devel env in it is somewhere in between impossible and totally
impossible.
Just follow the description from the page above - you need the
http://tools.android.com/download/studio/canary/1-0-0
Than you can use this IDE to either open an emulator of the android device
(if you have strong machine it is fine) or you can connect your phone using
USB to the machine and
deploy movirt to it directly (it supports also remote debug, logs etc).
> How can I "surf" from my mobile device to a local oVirt installation?
so, if the machine with ovirt is connected to the wifi router and your mobile
is connected to the same router, you are on the same network. So lets say
the engine's ip is:
192.169.122.2
and it is listening on https, than in movirt in settings page fill something
like this:
https://192.169.122.2:443/ovirt-engine/api
and in the same settings pick "Disable HTTPS" to avoid to play with the
certs.
Tomas
I feel so ashamed now :) I should have realized by myself about the surfing part. This is
similar to how my engine connects to my host at home :)
>
> Cheers,
> Yair
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Tomas Jelinek" <tjelinek(a)redhat.com>
> > To: "Yair Zaslavsky" <yzaslavs(a)redhat.com>
> > Cc: "Martin Polednik" <mpolednik(a)redhat.com>, "Greg
Sheremeta"
> > <gshereme(a)redhat.com>, "Martin Betak"
> > <mbetak(a)redhat.com>, "Doron Fediuck" <doron(a)redhat.com>,
"sphoorti
> > joglekar" <sphoorti.joglekar(a)gmail.com>,
> > movirt(a)ovirt.org
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 9:39:14 AM
> > Subject: Re: Some thoughts about moVirt
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Yair Zaslavsky" <yzaslavs(a)redhat.com>
> > > To: "Tomas Jelinek" <tjelinek(a)redhat.com>
> > > Cc: "Martin Polednik" <mpolednik(a)redhat.com>, "Greg
Sheremeta"
> > > <gshereme(a)redhat.com>, "Martin Betak"
> > > <mbetak(a)redhat.com>, "Doron Fediuck"
<doron(a)redhat.com>, "sphoorti
> > > joglekar" <sphoorti.joglekar(a)gmail.com>,
> > > movirt(a)ovirt.org
> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 6:21:18 AM
> > > Subject: Re: Some thoughts about moVirt
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Tomas Jelinek" <tjelinek(a)redhat.com>
> > > > To: "Yair Zaslavsky" <yzaslavs(a)redhat.com>
> > > > Cc: "Martin Polednik" <mpolednik(a)redhat.com>,
"Greg Sheremeta"
> > > > <gshereme(a)redhat.com>, "Martin Betak"
> > > > <mbetak(a)redhat.com>, "Doron Fediuck"
<doron(a)redhat.com>, "sphoorti
> > > > joglekar" <sphoorti.joglekar(a)gmail.com>,
> > > > movirt(a)ovirt.org
> > > > Sent: Monday, February 9, 2015 3:56:39 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: Some thoughts about moVirt
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Yair Zaslavsky" <yzaslavs(a)redhat.com>
> > > > > To: "Martin Polednik" <mpolednik(a)redhat.com>
> > > > > Cc: "Tomas Jelinek" <tjelinek(a)redhat.com>,
"Greg Sheremeta"
> > > > > <gshereme(a)redhat.com>, "Martin Betak"
> > > > > <mbetak(a)redhat.com>, "Doron Fediuck"
<doron(a)redhat.com>, "sphoorti
> > > > > joglekar" <sphoorti.joglekar(a)gmail.com>,
> > > > > movirt(a)ovirt.org
> > > > > Sent: Monday, February 9, 2015 2:31:08 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: Some thoughts about moVirt
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "Martin Polednik"
<mpolednik(a)redhat.com>
> > > > > > To: "Tomas Jelinek" <tjelinek(a)redhat.com>
> > > > > > Cc: "Yair Zaslavsky" <yzaslavs(a)redhat.com>,
"Greg Sheremeta"
> > > > > > <gshereme(a)redhat.com>, "Martin Betak"
> > > > > > <mbetak(a)redhat.com>, "Doron Fediuck"
<doron(a)redhat.com>,
> > > > > > "sphoorti
> > > > > > joglekar" <sphoorti.joglekar(a)gmail.com>,
> > > > > > movirt(a)ovirt.org
> > > > > > Sent: Monday, February 9, 2015 12:58:36 PM
> > > > > > Subject: Re: Some thoughts about moVirt
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > From: "Tomas Jelinek"
<tjelinek(a)redhat.com>
> > > > > > > To: "Yair Zaslavsky"
<yzaslavs(a)redhat.com>
> > > > > > > Cc: "Greg Sheremeta"
<gshereme(a)redhat.com>, "Martin Betak"
> > > > > > > <mbetak(a)redhat.com>, "Doron Fediuck"
<doron(a)redhat.com>,
> > > > > > > "sphoorti joglekar"
<sphoorti.joglekar(a)gmail.com>, "Martin
> > > > > > > Polednik"
> > > > > > > <mpoledni(a)redhat.com>, movirt(a)ovirt.org
> > > > > > > Sent: Monday, February 9, 2015 8:03:19 AM
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: Some thoughts about moVirt
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > (adding martin and movirt list - rest inline)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > From: "Yair Zaslavsky"
<yzaslavs(a)redhat.com>
> > > > > > > > To: "Greg Sheremeta"
<gshereme(a)redhat.com>
> > > > > > > > Cc: "Martin Betak"
<mbetak(a)redhat.com>, "Doron Fediuck"
> > > > > > > > <doron(a)redhat.com>,
> > > > > > > > "sphoorti joglekar"
> > > > > > > > <sphoorti.joglekar(a)gmail.com>, "Tomas
Jelinek"
> > > > > > > > <tjelinek(a)redhat.com>
> > > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, February 8, 2015 3:37:46 PM
> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Some thoughts about moVirt
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > > From: "Greg Sheremeta"
<gshereme(a)redhat.com>
> > > > > > > > > To: "Yair Zaslavsky"
<yzaslavs(a)redhat.com>
> > > > > > > > > Cc: "Martin Betak"
<mbetak(a)redhat.com>, "Doron Fediuck"
> > > > > > > > > <doron(a)redhat.com>,
> > > > > > > > > "sphoorti joglekar"
> > > > > > > > > <sphoorti.joglekar(a)gmail.com>,
"Tomas Jelinek"
> > > > > > > > > <tjelinek(a)redhat.com>
> > > > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, February 8, 2015 4:27:22 PM
> > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Some thoughts about moVirt
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > > > From: "Yair Zaslavsky"
<yzaslavs(a)redhat.com>
> > > > > > > > > > To: "Martin Betak"
<mbetak(a)redhat.com>, "Greg Sheremeta"
> > > > > > > > > > <gshereme(a)redhat.com>
> > > > > > > > > > Cc: "Doron Fediuck"
<doron(a)redhat.com>
> > > > > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, February 8, 2015 2:12:20
AM
> > > > > > > > > > Subject: Some thoughts about moVirt
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > 1. I will be glad to see a wiki page on
how I can get
> > > > > > > > > > involved
> > > > > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > > moVirt.
> > > > > > > > > > For example, I have a new galaxy note4
phone. I will get
> > > > > > > > > > soon
> > > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > "monster
> > > > > > > > > > machine" with 16 gigs, and some
SSD, and 1 TB disk on it.
> > > > > > > > > > Ok,
> > > > > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > > can
> > > > > > > > > > install
> > > > > > > > > > ovirt all-in-one on it, now what?
> > > > > > > > > > I don't even know how to configure
browsing via the
> > > > > > > > > > mobile
> > > > > > > > > > device
> > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > my
> > > > > > > > > > home
> > > > > > > > > > network (i.e - access my mahcine) -
yes, i know this is
> > > > > > > > > > not
> > > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > "strictly
> > > > > > > > > > moVirt" problem, but if you
provide this info it will
> > > > > > > > > > ease
> > > > > > > > > > others
> > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > start
> > > > > > > > > > developing. I would like to know how I
can start
> > > > > > > > > > contributing
> > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > moVirt.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > 2. Maybe I missed it - what is the
decision about the
> > > > > > > > > > technology?
> > > > > > > > > > Native
> > > > > > > > > > Java
> > > > > > > > > > ? Cordova? Something else? If native,
maybe we should
> > > > > > > > > > encourage
> > > > > > > > > > somehow
> > > > > > > > > > others to start porting to IOS/ Windows
Phone, etc?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > > > > Yair
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Adding Sphoorti and Tomas, as they are
running this show :)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Oops, sorry for that.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 1. 16 GB is not "monster" --
better put 32 or 64 in it :D
> > > > > > > > > I think Sphoorti has already worked on some
documentation,
> > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > may
> > > > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > > plans
> > > > > > > > > to do more?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Yeah, so as I wrote down, if I have let's say
some modem +
> > > > > > > > router
> > > > > > > > at
> > > > > > > > home,
> > > > > > > > how can I work against my "all-in-one"
ovirt installation?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Well, if both your phone and your monster machine is
connected
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > same
> > > > > > > router you are both on the same network. So if you can
not see
> > > > > > > oVirt
> > > > > > > from
> > > > > > > mobile, there is some problem with firewall on the
all-in-one.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On https://github.com/matobet/moVirt is the project
page. It
> > > > > > > contains
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > sources, an unsigned build you can install to play
with, some
> > > > > > > documentation
> > > > > > > on how to setup movirt and also how to setup the devel
env.
> > > > > > > Ping us all the time if you have any issues setting it
up. But
> > > > > > > please
> > > > > > > make
> > > > > > > sure you are using exactly the versions of everything
as stated
> > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > wiki
> > > > > > > -
> > > > > > > any change in gradle or android-studio can have fatal
> > > > > > > consequences
> > > > > > > :D
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Connecting to your environment - well, you need to
have access
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > engine's REST API from your phone. Than in the
moVirt you just
> > > > > > > need
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > fill
> > > > > > > the API URL, name and password.
> > > > > > > Connecting securely using https is a bit tricky - you
need to
> > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > CA
> > > > > > > cert imported to your phone and connect to REST using
the
> > > > > > > proper
> > > > > > > URL
> > > > > > > as
> > > > > > > stated in the cert.
> > > > > > > For devel env you can use the HTTPS and pick the
"Disable
> > > > > > > HTTPS"
> > > > > > > -
> > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > will
> > > > > > > not check the cert and will work without proper url
(e.g. with
> > > > > > > IP)
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > without cert imported.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 2. The decision was native Java. For now,
afaik, iOS isn't
> > > > > > > > > being
> > > > > > > > > considered.
> > > > > > > > > Windows Phone is not popular, but it might
be more popular
> > > > > > > > > among
> > > > > > > > > server
> > > > > > > > > admin types? Not sure.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Currently Android and surprisingly it works nice as-is
on
> > > > > > > blackberry
> > > > > > > :)
> > > > > > > Even
> > > > > > > the devel env with debugger etc(!!!)
> > > > > > > Martin (Polednik) was considering to port it to iOS,
not sure -
> > > > > > > Martin?
> > > > > > > Also a friend of Sphoorti (the current OPW intern) is
very
> > > > > > > insterested
> > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > porting it to iOS as a different OPW. But this is
very
> > > > > > > uncertain
> > > > > > > -
> > > > > > > not
> > > > > > > sure
> > > > > > > who could lead her and not sure about funding etc...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Heya,
> > > > > > I'm looking into building native iOS oVirt app, so far
I've
> > > > > > started
> > > > > > designing
> > > > > > the storyboard (UI) and interaction. Some of the decisions
were
> > > > > > going
> > > > > > with
> > > > > > objective-C (due to internal hate for swift) and going
iPhone
> > > > > > only
> > > > > > as
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > first
> > > > > > iteration target in order to get the UI as iOSy as
possible.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > But I have to admit that my experience with iOS or mobile
> > > > > > development
> > > > > > overall
> > > > > > is quite limited, so I see no issues with either joint
efforts or
> > > > > > developing
> > > > > > two apps and seeing which one is more suited for iVirt. :)
> > > > >
> > > > > What about porting of spice client to IOS?
> > > >
> > > > there are issues even on android with it :) I'd say it would be a
lot
> > > > of
> > > > work
> > > > porting it for not too much gain - we have the option of VNC.
> > >
> > > Cool! I did not think about it :)
> > > Is there a VNC project for IOS that can be used? has anyone checked?
> >
> > Honestly not :) I have only googled it and there are tons of VNC clients
> > for
> > iOS so I hope some of them are usable for us.
> > But I would be very surprised if none...
> >
> > >
> > > > And until we don't have the client itself, I don't see too
much point
> > > > in
> > > > porting a console for it.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Ok, good to know.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Greg
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>