Ok, so I'm waiting for some documentation on how I can start working on movirt - i.e - I'm at my other in law's house - we have DSL modem + wireless network at home. I have Galaxy note S4, linux machine + eclipse + android plugin. Now what? How can I "surf" from my mobile device to a local oVirt installation? Cheers, Yair ----- Original Message -----
From: "Tomas Jelinek" <tjelinek@redhat.com> To: "Yair Zaslavsky" <yzaslavs@redhat.com> Cc: "Martin Polednik" <mpolednik@redhat.com>, "Greg Sheremeta" <gshereme@redhat.com>, "Martin Betak" <mbetak@redhat.com>, "Doron Fediuck" <doron@redhat.com>, "sphoorti joglekar" <sphoorti.joglekar@gmail.com>, movirt@ovirt.org Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 9:39:14 AM Subject: Re: Some thoughts about moVirt
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From: "Yair Zaslavsky" <yzaslavs@redhat.com> To: "Tomas Jelinek" <tjelinek@redhat.com> Cc: "Martin Polednik" <mpolednik@redhat.com>, "Greg Sheremeta" <gshereme@redhat.com>, "Martin Betak" <mbetak@redhat.com>, "Doron Fediuck" <doron@redhat.com>, "sphoorti joglekar" <sphoorti.joglekar@gmail.com>, movirt@ovirt.org Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 6:21:18 AM Subject: Re: Some thoughts about moVirt
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From: "Tomas Jelinek" <tjelinek@redhat.com> To: "Yair Zaslavsky" <yzaslavs@redhat.com> Cc: "Martin Polednik" <mpolednik@redhat.com>, "Greg Sheremeta" <gshereme@redhat.com>, "Martin Betak" <mbetak@redhat.com>, "Doron Fediuck" <doron@redhat.com>, "sphoorti joglekar" <sphoorti.joglekar@gmail.com>, movirt@ovirt.org Sent: Monday, February 9, 2015 3:56:39 PM Subject: Re: Some thoughts about moVirt
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From: "Yair Zaslavsky" <yzaslavs@redhat.com> To: "Martin Polednik" <mpolednik@redhat.com> Cc: "Tomas Jelinek" <tjelinek@redhat.com>, "Greg Sheremeta" <gshereme@redhat.com>, "Martin Betak" <mbetak@redhat.com>, "Doron Fediuck" <doron@redhat.com>, "sphoorti joglekar" <sphoorti.joglekar@gmail.com>, movirt@ovirt.org Sent: Monday, February 9, 2015 2:31:08 PM Subject: Re: Some thoughts about moVirt
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From: "Martin Polednik" <mpolednik@redhat.com> To: "Tomas Jelinek" <tjelinek@redhat.com> Cc: "Yair Zaslavsky" <yzaslavs@redhat.com>, "Greg Sheremeta" <gshereme@redhat.com>, "Martin Betak" <mbetak@redhat.com>, "Doron Fediuck" <doron@redhat.com>, "sphoorti joglekar" <sphoorti.joglekar@gmail.com>, movirt@ovirt.org Sent: Monday, February 9, 2015 12:58:36 PM Subject: Re: Some thoughts about moVirt
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From: "Tomas Jelinek" <tjelinek@redhat.com> To: "Yair Zaslavsky" <yzaslavs@redhat.com> Cc: "Greg Sheremeta" <gshereme@redhat.com>, "Martin Betak" <mbetak@redhat.com>, "Doron Fediuck" <doron@redhat.com>, "sphoorti joglekar" <sphoorti.joglekar@gmail.com>, "Martin Polednik" <mpoledni@redhat.com>, movirt@ovirt.org Sent: Monday, February 9, 2015 8:03:19 AM Subject: Re: Some thoughts about moVirt
(adding martin and movirt list - rest inline)
----- Original Message ----- > From: "Yair Zaslavsky" <yzaslavs@redhat.com> > To: "Greg Sheremeta" <gshereme@redhat.com> > Cc: "Martin Betak" <mbetak@redhat.com>, "Doron Fediuck" > <doron@redhat.com>, > "sphoorti joglekar" > <sphoorti.joglekar@gmail.com>, "Tomas Jelinek" > <tjelinek@redhat.com> > Sent: Sunday, February 8, 2015 3:37:46 PM > Subject: Re: Some thoughts about moVirt > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Greg Sheremeta" <gshereme@redhat.com> > > To: "Yair Zaslavsky" <yzaslavs@redhat.com> > > Cc: "Martin Betak" <mbetak@redhat.com>, "Doron Fediuck" > > <doron@redhat.com>, > > "sphoorti joglekar" > > <sphoorti.joglekar@gmail.com>, "Tomas Jelinek" > > <tjelinek@redhat.com> > > Sent: Sunday, February 8, 2015 4:27:22 PM > > Subject: Re: Some thoughts about moVirt > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Yair Zaslavsky" <yzaslavs@redhat.com> > > > To: "Martin Betak" <mbetak@redhat.com>, "Greg Sheremeta" > > > <gshereme@redhat.com> > > > Cc: "Doron Fediuck" <doron@redhat.com> > > > Sent: Sunday, February 8, 2015 2:12:20 AM > > > Subject: Some thoughts about moVirt > > > > > > 1. I will be glad to see a wiki page on how I can get > > > involved > > > with > > > moVirt. > > > For example, I have a new galaxy note4 phone. I will get soon > > > a > > > "monster > > > machine" with 16 gigs, and some SSD, and 1 TB disk on it. Ok, > > > I > > > can > > > install > > > ovirt all-in-one on it, now what? > > > I don't even know how to configure browsing via the mobile > > > device > > > to > > > my > > > home > > > network (i.e - access my mahcine) - yes, i know this is not a > > > "strictly > > > moVirt" problem, but if you provide this info it will ease > > > others > > > to > > > start > > > developing. I would like to know how I can start contributing > > > to > > > moVirt. > > > > > > 2. Maybe I missed it - what is the decision about the > > > technology? > > > Native > > > Java > > > ? Cordova? Something else? If native, maybe we should > > > encourage > > > somehow > > > others to start porting to IOS/ Windows Phone, etc? > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Yair > > > > > > > > > > Adding Sphoorti and Tomas, as they are running this show :) > > Oops, sorry for that. > > > > > 1. 16 GB is not "monster" -- better put 32 or 64 in it :D > > I think Sphoorti has already worked on some documentation, and > > may > > have > > plans > > to do more? > > Yeah, so as I wrote down, if I have let's say some modem + router > at > home, > how can I work against my "all-in-one" ovirt installation?
Well, if both your phone and your monster machine is connected to the same router you are both on the same network. So if you can not see oVirt from mobile, there is some problem with firewall on the all-in-one.
On https://github.com/matobet/moVirt is the project page. It contains the sources, an unsigned build you can install to play with, some documentation on how to setup movirt and also how to setup the devel env. Ping us all the time if you have any issues setting it up. But please make sure you are using exactly the versions of everything as stated on wiki - any change in gradle or android-studio can have fatal consequences :D
Connecting to your environment - well, you need to have access to the engine's REST API from your phone. Than in the moVirt you just need to fill the API URL, name and password. Connecting securely using https is a bit tricky - you need to have the CA cert imported to your phone and connect to REST using the proper URL as stated in the cert. For devel env you can use the HTTPS and pick the "Disable HTTPS" - it will not check the cert and will work without proper url (e.g. with IP) and without cert imported.
> > > > > > 2. The decision was native Java. For now, afaik, iOS isn't > > being > > considered. > > Windows Phone is not popular, but it might be more popular > > among > > server > > admin types? Not sure.
Currently Android and surprisingly it works nice as-is on blackberry :) Even the devel env with debugger etc(!!!) Martin (Polednik) was considering to port it to iOS, not sure - Martin? Also a friend of Sphoorti (the current OPW intern) is very insterested in porting it to iOS as a different OPW. But this is very uncertain - not sure who could lead her and not sure about funding etc...
Heya, I'm looking into building native iOS oVirt app, so far I've started designing the storyboard (UI) and interaction. Some of the decisions were going with objective-C (due to internal hate for swift) and going iPhone only as the first iteration target in order to get the UI as iOSy as possible.
But I have to admit that my experience with iOS or mobile development overall is quite limited, so I see no issues with either joint efforts or developing two apps and seeing which one is more suited for iVirt. :)
What about porting of spice client to IOS?
there are issues even on android with it :) I'd say it would be a lot of work porting it for not too much gain - we have the option of VNC.
Cool! I did not think about it :) Is there a VNC project for IOS that can be used? has anyone checked?
Honestly not :) I have only googled it and there are tons of VNC clients for iOS so I hope some of them are usable for us. But I would be very surprised if none...
And until we don't have the client itself, I don't see too much point in porting a console for it.
> > Ok, good to know. > > > > Greg > > >