> -----Original Message----- > From: Carl Trieloff [mailto:cctrieloff@redhat.com] > Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 22:03 PM > To: project-planning(a)ovirt.org; Itamar Heim; Robyn Bergeron > Subject: Workshop - more details > > > > I've updated the agenda to be more specific based on the discussion on > the call yesterday. > > Please don't hold back on any feedback. > > (URL REDACTED - INFO: http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/project-planning/2011-September/000283.html) > Questions... > -- start at 8AM? That would be better for all of us traveling and on jetlag in the afternoon... > -- enough time for breakouts? Are these in a single room or multiple rooms? > -- enough time for investment areas from founders? > I am missing a lot of deep dive time per module - engine - api - ui - vdsm - history & reports And more time than an hour on getting people a working environment (novel idea - we'll pre-create a fedora kvm VM with one to shorten ramp up) Please check if the site can accommodate Monday as well for some pre-workshop stuff (so we could move the "get a devel environment working" to that day for example for people who can come early, then they could help others, etc.

> -----Original Message----- > From: Carl Trieloff [mailto:cctrieloff@redhat.com] > Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 22:03 PM > To: project-planning(a)ovirt.org; Itamar Heim; Robyn Bergeron > Subject: Workshop - more details > > > > I've updated the agenda to be more specific based on the discussion on > the call yesterday. > > Please don't hold back on any feedback. > > (URL REDACTED - INFO: http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/project-planning/2011-September/000283.html) > > Questions... > -- start at 8AM? That would be better for all of us traveling and on jetlag in the afternoon... > -- enough time for breakouts? Are these in a single room or multiple rooms? > -- enough time for investment areas from founders? > I am missing a lot of deep dive time per module - engine - api - ui - vdsm - history& reports And more time than an hour on getting people a working environment (novel idea - we'll pre-create a fedora kvm VM with one to shorten ramp up)

Please check if the site can accommodate Monday as well for some pre-workshop stuff (so we could move the "get a devel environment working" to that day for example for people who can come early, then they could help others, etc. > .... > > thx > Cal. _______________________________________________ Project-planning mailing list Project-planning(a)ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/project-planning

-----Original Message----- From: Carl Trieloff [mailto:cctrieloff@redhat.com] Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 23:26 PM To: Anthony Liguori Cc: Itamar Heim; project-planning(a)ovirt.org; 'Robyn Bergeron' Subject: Re: Workshop - more details On 09/22/2011 04:20 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote: >> And more time than an hour on getting people a working environment >> (novel >> idea - we'll pre-create a fedora kvm VM with one to shorten ramp up) > > Yes, if we have to dedicate time to getting a build environment, then > the build environment needs to be simplified :-) the initial schedule was just a hack, no indication of reality. goal was to get feedback and refine it. Do we even want a getting going session? or just deal with as part of a

Itamar: Regarding accommodating a small subset of folks Monday, that should not be a problem, I will make sure Michael and I keep that in mind as we're trying to allocate rooms for this at the Cisco campus now. If we do some early things, it's likely the space for any Monday events will be very limited compared to Tuesday through Thursday. Thanks, Kyle On Sep 22, 2011, at 2:46 PM, Itamar Heim wrote: > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Carl Trieloff [mailto:cctrieloff@redhat.com] >> Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 22:03 PM >> To: project-planning(a)ovirt.org; Itamar Heim; Robyn Bergeron >> Subject: Workshop - more details >> >> >> >> I've updated the agenda to be more specific based on the discussion on >> the call yesterday. >> >> Please don't hold back on any feedback. >> >> > (URL REDACTED - INFO: http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/project-planning/2011-September/000283.html) >> Questions... >> -- start at 8AM? > That would be better for all of us traveling and on jetlag in the > afternoon... > >> -- enough time for breakouts? > Are these in a single room or multiple rooms? > >> -- enough time for investment areas from founders? >> > I am missing a lot of deep dive time per module > - engine > - api > - ui > - vdsm > - history & reports > > And more time than an hour on getting people a working environment (novel > idea - we'll pre-create a fedora kvm VM with one to shorten ramp up) > > Please check if the site can accommodate Monday as well for some > pre-workshop stuff (so we could move the "get a devel environment working" > to that day for example for people who can come early, then they could > help others, etc. > >> .... >> >> thx >> Cal. > _______________________________________________ > Project-planning mailing list > Project-planning(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/project-planning

Carl: This looks like it's taking shape nicely. One suggestion I have is on Wednesday, should we swap Roadmap 2 hour session with the BoFs? This would allow us to finish each day with BoF sessions consistently. And, if the roadmap session goes short, to extend the BoF time in one solid block. Thoughts? Thanks, Kyle On Sep 23, 2011, at 2:00 PM, Carl Trieloff wrote: > I've updated the agenda with all the input received so far. > > (URL REDACTED - INFO: http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/project-planning/2011-September/000283.html) > > > I still have interactive sessions starting in the afternoon of the first > day. If only get break out rooms from day two we can move the morning > content from day 2 to day one and work around that. > > Take a look and fire additional comments. > > regards > Carl. > _______________________________________________ > Project-planning mailing list > Project-planning(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/project-planning

On 09/23/2011 10:00 PM, Carl Trieloff wrote: > I've updated the agenda with all the input received so far. > (URL REDACTED - INFO: http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/project-planning/2011-September/000283.html) > I still have interactive sessions starting in the afternoon of the first > day. If only get break out rooms from day two we can move the morning > content from day 2 to day one and work around that. > Take a look and fire additional comments. Hi, I think a session on the conversion process from c# to java of the engine core could be both interesting (previous experience) and useful for explaining parts of the current engine code.

Am 25.09.2011 um 08:59 schrieb Livnat Peer <lpeer(a)redhat.com&gt;: > On 09/23/2011 10:00 PM, Carl Trieloff wrote: >> I've updated the agenda with all the input received so far. >> >> (URL REDACTED - INFO: http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/project-planning/2011-September/000283.html) >> >> >> I still have interactive sessions starting in the afternoon of the first >> day. If only get break out rooms from day two we can move the morning >> content from day 2 to day one and work around that. >> >> Take a look and fire additional comments. >> > Hi, > > I think a session on the conversion process from c# to java of the > engine core could be both interesting (previous experience) and useful > for explaining parts of the current engine code. Yup, please also include some of the rationale behind it. I very much prefer c# as a language and environment over Java, though I don't know if the web server stuff in there is as bad as J2EE. Given that MS is not exactly worse than Oracle, the patent FUD part is out of question too. I'd also be interested in some real (and honest) comparison between the 2 frameworks. Which one was easier to code for? Which one is more stable? Eadier to read? Thinking about it, this could be a very interesting talk for a Linux/OSS conference :). Better than the initial meeting even, as history shouldn't matter too much for us going forward. The state is what it is. Alex