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Day Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 0:02 AM To: project-planning(a)ovirt.org Subject: virtualization benchmark suites Hi folks, I spoke with several financial customers interested in KVM earlier this

were KVM benchmarking and the oVirt community. Two of the customers

benchmarking suites to oVirt as projects, and that we form a

IBM has successfully contributed a benchmark called DayTrader to the

community around that benchmark, which tests middleware using

I'm not proposing DayTrader. But IBM does have some distributed

community. And others of you probably also have similar test suites. What is the group's feeling about benchmarking projects? If there's

(no promises). But I think this is good feedback from our customers and

the idea.

Thanks, Mike Mike Day IBM Distinguished Engineer Chief Virtualization Architect, Open Systems Development Cell: +1 919 371-8786 | mdday(a)us.ibm.com http://code.ncultra.org

On 09/22/2011 04:11 PM, Itamar Heim wrote: > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: project-planning-bounces(a)ovirt.org > [mailto:project-planning-bounces@ovirt.org] On Behalf Of Michael D >> Day >> Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 0:02 AM >> To: project-planning(a)ovirt.org >> Subject: virtualization benchmark suites >> >> Hi folks, >> >> I spoke with several financial customers interested in KVM earlier this > week and two topics we discussed >> were KVM benchmarking and the oVirt community. Two of the customers > suggested that we contribute >> benchmarking suites to oVirt as projects, and that we form a > benchmarking community under oVirt. >> >> IBM has successfully contributed a benchmark called DayTrader to the > Apache foundation and formed a >> community around that benchmark, which tests middleware using > transaction and networking workloads. >> >> I'm not proposing DayTrader. But IBM does have some distributed > benchmarks that may be interesting to the >> community. And others of you probably also have similar test suites. >> >> What is the group's feeling about benchmarking projects? If there's > interest I'll pursue things on our end >> (no promises). But I think this is good feedback from our customers and > am interested to hear comments on >> the idea. > > How would that differentiate from specvirt? specvirt is neither free as in beer nor free as in speech. It's not something that a customer can easily obtain and play around with themselves.

Regards, Anthony Liguori

On 09/23/2011 12:20 AM, Anthony Liguori wrote: > On 09/22/2011 04:11 PM, Itamar Heim wrote: >> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: project-planning-bounces(a)ovirt.org >> [mailto:project-planning-bounces@ovirt.org] On Behalf Of Michael D >>> Day >>> Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 0:02 AM >>> To: project-planning(a)ovirt.org >>> Subject: virtualization benchmark suites >>> >>> Hi folks, >>> >>> I spoke with several financial customers interested in KVM earlier >>> this >> week and two topics we discussed >>> were KVM benchmarking and the oVirt community. Two of the customers >> suggested that we contribute >>> benchmarking suites to oVirt as projects, and that we form a >> benchmarking community under oVirt. >>> >>> IBM has successfully contributed a benchmark called DayTrader to the >> Apache foundation and formed a >>> community around that benchmark, which tests middleware using >> transaction and networking workloads. >>> >>> I'm not proposing DayTrader. But IBM does have some distributed >> benchmarks that may be interesting to the >>> community. And others of you probably also have similar test suites. >>> >>> What is the group's feeling about benchmarking projects? If there's >> interest I'll pursue things on our end >>> (no promises). But I think this is good feedback from our customers >>> and >> am interested to hear comments on >>> the idea. >> >> How would that differentiate from specvirt? > > specvirt is neither free as in beer nor free as in speech. It's not > something that a customer can easily obtain and play around with > themselves. Does such benchmark ever existed (apart from kernel build)? :) As you pointed Anthony, let the ovirt project first focus on simplify the build process before we develop a competing benchmark suite to the one that we base lots of our marketing over. Sorry spilling cold water, just one thing at a time.

project-planning-bounces(a)ovirt.org wrote on 09/23/2011 07:57:08 AM: > From: Carl Trieloff <cctrieloff(a)redhat.com&gt; .... >>>>> What is the group's feeling about benchmarking projects? If there's >>>> interest I'll pursue things on our end >>>>> (no promises). But I think this is good feedback from our customers >>>>> and >>>> am interested to hear comments on >>>>> the idea. >>>> How would that differentiate from specvirt? >>> specvirt is neither free as in beer nor free as in speech. It's not >>> something that a customer can easily obtain and play around with >>> themselves. >> Does such benchmark ever existed (apart from kernel build)? :) >> As you pointed Anthony, let the ovirt project first focus on simplify >> the build process before we develop a competing benchmark suite to the >> one that we base lots of our marketing over. >> >> Sorry spilling cold water, just one thing at a time. > +1 (to the extent I get a vote.. Hmm, may need to go look at those rules again! :-) ) > My view is build the eco-system. That means welcome any additional > complementary project. Having multiple projects under coordination means > that each project can build at it's own rate, yet we can have > integration. Additionally, not everyone can work on the same thing. We > have the concept of project maturity, so there is no risk as long as it > is well defined and complementary. > > Additionally, if a project comes in and after a year or so gets no > traction we can sunset it. This provides a healthy model to have > community innovation in and around the oVirt core project. > We need to get a lot of seeds going.. while additional projects may take a little attention from the initial project base, we need to foster growth. I think the real question is whether or not we think it's within the scope and mission of oVirt; I think there's certainly a need for it as a community effort.. certainly important to the KVM ecosystem in general.. may not exactly fall into 'management' related, but I think we're broader than that. It's also somewhat independent of the core framework, so hopefully doesn't cause too much disruption to getting the base going, and probably doesn't pull on/distract the core buildout.. may appeal more to somewhat of a different crowd..