On Tue, Nov 10, 2020 at 10:10 PM tferic(a)swissonline.ch <
tferic(a)swissonline.ch> wrote:
Cloning VM's is a core feature of virtualization.
I remember having cloned VM's back in the 90's with the free VMware
version 0.9.
My main use case ever since is cloning fully configured production servers
into a testservers, for isolated testing.
Why would a hypervisor not offer cloning, when it is possible and useful?
regards, Toni
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Sure, it can be handy in some cases - that's why we've implemented it in
oVirt and enhance it in 4.4.3 (for running VMs).
But I wouldn't expect it to be commonly used via the user portal, that's
why I am interested in the use-case.
On 10.11.20 16:22, Arik Hadas wrote:
On Tue, Nov 10, 2020 at 4:37 PM Nicolás <nicolas(a)devels.es> wrote:
> Hi Arik,
>
> El 10/11/20 a las 13:21, Arik Hadas escribió:
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 10, 2020 at 3:08 PM Nicolás <nicolas(a)devels.es> wrote:
>
>> Hi Sharon,
>>
>> Thanks for the reply! I've opened [1], so hopefully someone will be able
>> to implement it.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Nico
>>
>> [1]:
https://github.com/oVirt/ovirt-site/issues/2389
>>
>> El 10/11/20 a las 11:38, Sharon Gratch escribió:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> This feature of cloning a VM was indeed part of the old User Portal and
>> you are right that it's not supported by the newer VM Portal (since oVirt
>> 4.3).
>> It seemed that this wasn't required by VM Portal users (no user
>> complained up till now) and that's why we omitted it and it's not part
of
>> our current roadmap to implement it as well.
>>
>> Nevertheless, there is no real reason not to include that ability as
>> part of VM Portal, so you are most welcome to open an issue on
>>
https://github.com/oVirt/ovirt-web-ui/issues
>> <
https://github.com/oVirt/ovirt-site/issues>
>> and you can push a fix yourself if you have time (or someone else from
>> the community) :-)
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Sharon
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 6, 2020 at 11:06 AM Nicolás <nicolas(a)devels.es> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> We're using oVirt 4.3.8, having an organization that intensively uses
>>> the User Portal. After upgrading from 4.2, we've noticed that cloning a
>>> VM from within the User Portal is not possible anymore. In our case,
>>> this feature was heavily used by hundreds of students deploying their
>>> VMs.
>>>
>>
> Out of curiosity, why cloning a VM and not provisioning the VMs from
> template(s)?
>
>
>
> Most of our students are IT-related, and their professors want to teach
> them the procedure to deploy a VM from scratch. Some other courses surely
> deploy their VMs from a template as they are not that IT oriented and they
> just want to have a working VM instead of building it from scratch. We have
> a lot of casuistry, but in our case about 400~500 students would very
> welcome having back the clone option.
>
Thanks Nicolás.
I'd say that even for the IT-related students it may make more sense to
provision VMs from templates instead of cloning VMs -
so you want them to deploy VMs from scratch, which means starting with a
VM that is based on the blank template, add disk(s) and other devices,
install and configure the guest and such; and then the students would use
clone-VM to duplicate the VM they just prepared, right?
Why would you want them to clone the VM rather than creating a template
out of this VM and provision further VMs from that template with
thin-provisioned disks?
>
> Regards,
>
> Nico
>
>
>>> Is this feature in the roadmap yet? If not, do you consider it useful
>>> to
>>> open a RFE?
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Nico
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