6:36 p.m.
Hi,
I'm running ovirt-4.0.6 on EL7.3.
I've got a stuck VM (Windows 10) that I'm trying to restart.
Unfortunately it's "up" enough that ovirt is trying to perform a
soft-shutdown, but it's not up enough to complete the task. If I login
to the ovirt admin portal as the admin, select shutdown, I see the
following engine log messages before I get an event "Shutdown of VM
<vm-name> failed.":
2017-05-04 11:23:27,774 INFO
[org.ovirt.engine.core.dal.dbbroker.auditloghandling.AuditLogDirector]
(org.ovirt.thread.pool-6-thread-14) [3f629ae6] Correlation ID: 3f629ae6, Job ID:
1f5275cd-d2fe-44d5-a1cf-d1920e3f3378, Call Stack: null, Custom Event ID: -1, Message: VM
shutdown initiated by admin@internal-authz on VM win10-64 (Host: ovirt-0).
2017-05-04 11:28:38,237 INFO [org.ovirt.engine.core.vdsbroker.monitoring.VmAnalyzer]
(DefaultQuartzScheduler10) [4cf2f258] VM
'c9830039-9bf9-4c6a-8eae-da9c24aad899'(win10-64) moved from 'PoweringDown'
--> 'Up'
2017-05-04 11:28:38,287 WARN
[org.ovirt.engine.core.dal.dbbroker.auditloghandling.AuditLogDirector]
(DefaultQuartzScheduler10) [4cf2f258] Correlation ID: null, Call Stack: null, Custom Event
ID: -1, Message: Shutdown of VM win10-64 failed.
So, how can I get out of this situation? How can I force-powerdown this
VM so I can reboot it?
Thanks,
-derek
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Computer and Internet Security Consultant
6:38 p.m.
Have you tried "power off" instead of "shutdown"?
On May 4, 2017 11:36 AM, "Derek Atkins" <derek(a)ihtfp.com> wrote:
Hi,
I'm running ovirt-4.0.6 on EL7.3.
I've got a stuck VM (Windows 10) that I'm trying to restart.
Unfortunately it's "up" enough that ovirt is trying to perform a
soft-shutdown, but it's not up enough to complete the task. If I login
to the ovirt admin portal as the admin, select shutdown, I see the
following engine log messages before I get an event "Shutdown of VM
<vm-name> failed.":
2017-05-04 11:23:27,774 INFO [org.ovirt.engine.core.dal.
dbbroker.auditloghandling.AuditLogDirector] (org.ovirt.thread.pool-6-thread-14)
[3f629ae6] Correlation ID: 3f629ae6, Job ID: 1f5275cd-d2fe-44d5-a1cf-d1920e3f3378,
Call Stack: null, Custom Event ID: -1, Message: VM shutdown initiated by
admin@internal-authz on VM win10-64 (Host: ovirt-0).
2017-05-04 11:28:38,237 INFO [org.ovirt.engine.core.vdsbroker.monitoring.VmAnalyzer]
(DefaultQuartzScheduler10) [4cf2f258] VM
'c9830039-9bf9-4c6a-8eae-da9c24aad899'(win10-64)
moved from 'PoweringDown' --> 'Up'
2017-05-04 11:28:38,287 WARN [org.ovirt.engine.core.dal.
dbbroker.auditloghandling.AuditLogDirector] (DefaultQuartzScheduler10)
[4cf2f258] Correlation ID: null, Call Stack: null, Custom Event ID: -1,
Message: Shutdown of VM win10-64 failed.
So, how can I get out of this situation? How can I force-powerdown this
VM so I can reboot it?
Thanks,
-derek
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6:47 p.m.
Okay, I'll bite. Which button is that?
I'm in the Virtual Machines tab on the admin portal; I select the hung VM
from my list and I see the following items at the top of the page:
"New VM", "Import", "Edit", "Remove", "Clone
VM", "Run Once", "<Run>",
"<Suspend>", "<Shutdown>", "<Reboot>",
"<Console>", "Migrate", "Cancel
Migration", "Cancel Conversion", and then the right arrow to "Make
Template", "Export", "Create Snapshot", "Change CD",
"Assign Tags", and
"Guide Me".
Please, kind sir, which one is the "power off" instead of "shutdown"?
-derek
On Thu, May 4, 2017 11:38 am, Dan Yasny wrote:
Have you tried "power off" instead of
"shutdown"?
On May 4, 2017 11:36 AM, "Derek Atkins" <derek(a)ihtfp.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm running ovirt-4.0.6 on EL7.3.
>
> I've got a stuck VM (Windows 10) that I'm trying to restart.
> Unfortunately it's "up" enough that ovirt is trying to perform a
> soft-shutdown, but it's not up enough to complete the task. If I login
> to the ovirt admin portal as the admin, select shutdown, I see the
> following engine log messages before I get an event "Shutdown of VM
> <vm-name> failed.":
>
> 2017-05-04 11:23:27,774 INFO [org.ovirt.engine.core.dal.
> dbbroker.auditloghandling.AuditLogDirector]
> (org.ovirt.thread.pool-6-thread-14)
> [3f629ae6] Correlation ID: 3f629ae6, Job ID:
> 1f5275cd-d2fe-44d5-a1cf-d1920e3f3378,
> Call Stack: null, Custom Event ID: -1, Message: VM shutdown initiated by
> admin@internal-authz on VM win10-64 (Host: ovirt-0).
> 2017-05-04 11:28:38,237 INFO
> [org.ovirt.engine.core.vdsbroker.monitoring.VmAnalyzer]
> (DefaultQuartzScheduler10) [4cf2f258] VM
> 'c9830039-9bf9-4c6a-8eae-da9c24aad899'(win10-64)
> moved from 'PoweringDown' --> 'Up'
> 2017-05-04 11:28:38,287 WARN [org.ovirt.engine.core.dal.
> dbbroker.auditloghandling.AuditLogDirector] (DefaultQuartzScheduler10)
> [4cf2f258] Correlation ID: null, Call Stack: null, Custom Event ID: -1,
> Message: Shutdown of VM win10-64 failed.
>
> So, how can I get out of this situation? How can I force-powerdown this
> VM so I can reboot it?
>
> Thanks,
>
> -derek
>
> --
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6:53 p.m.
On Thursday, May 4, 2017 11:47:48 AM EDT Derek Atkins wrote:
Okay, I'll bite. Which button is that?
I'm in the Virtual Machines tab on the admin portal; I select the hung VM
from my list and I see the following items at the top of the page:
"New VM", "Import", "Edit", "Remove", "Clone
VM", "Run Once", "<Run>",
"<Suspend>", "<Shutdown>", "<Reboot>",
"<Console>", "Migrate", "Cancel
Migration", "Cancel Conversion", and then the right arrow to "Make
Template", "Export", "Create Snapshot", "Change CD",
"Assign Tags", and
"Guide Me".
Please, kind sir, which one is the "power off" instead of
"shutdown"?
-derek
He was not making a joke, there should be a 'power off' button between the
shutdown and reboot button. If it is not there, that is a problem. Is it also
not there when you right click on the grid in the menu that pops up?
On Thu, May 4, 2017 11:38 am, Dan Yasny wrote:
> Have you tried "power off" instead of "shutdown"?
>
> On May 4, 2017 11:36 AM, "Derek Atkins" <derek(a)ihtfp.com> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm running ovirt-4.0.6 on EL7.3.
>>
>> I've got a stuck VM (Windows 10) that I'm trying to restart.
>> Unfortunately it's "up" enough that ovirt is trying to perform a
>> soft-shutdown, but it's not up enough to complete the task. If I login
>> to the ovirt admin portal as the admin, select shutdown, I see the
>> following engine log messages before I get an event "Shutdown of VM
>> <vm-name> failed.":
>>
>> 2017-05-04 11:23:27,774 INFO [org.ovirt.engine.core.dal.
>> dbbroker.auditloghandling.AuditLogDirector]
>> (org.ovirt.thread.pool-6-thread-14)
>> [3f629ae6] Correlation ID: 3f629ae6, Job ID:
>> 1f5275cd-d2fe-44d5-a1cf-d1920e3f3378,
>> Call Stack: null, Custom Event ID: -1, Message: VM shutdown initiated by
>> admin@internal-authz on VM win10-64 (Host: ovirt-0).
>> 2017-05-04 11:28:38,237 INFO
>> [org.ovirt.engine.core.vdsbroker.monitoring.VmAnalyzer]
>> (DefaultQuartzScheduler10) [4cf2f258] VM
>> 'c9830039-9bf9-4c6a-8eae-da9c24aad899'(win10-64)
>> moved from 'PoweringDown' --> 'Up'
>> 2017-05-04 11:28:38,287 WARN [org.ovirt.engine.core.dal.
>> dbbroker.auditloghandling.AuditLogDirector] (DefaultQuartzScheduler10)
>> [4cf2f258] Correlation ID: null, Call Stack: null, Custom Event ID: -1,
>> Message: Shutdown of VM win10-64 failed.
>>
>> So, how can I get out of this situation? How can I force-powerdown this
>> VM so I can reboot it?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> -derek
>>
>> --
>>
>> Derek Atkins 617-623-3745
>> derek(a)ihtfp.com www.ihtfp.com
>> Computer and Internet Security Consultant
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> Users(a)ovirt.org
>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
5:57 p.m.
Hi Alex,
Alexander Wels <awels(a)redhat.com> writes:
He was not making a joke, there should be a 'power off'
button between the
shutdown and reboot button. If it is not there, that is a problem. Is it also
not there when you right click on the grid in the menu that pops up?
As we discussed on IRC, that button isn't there in the VM page; it only
exists in the right-click context menu. The lack of documentation of
the existence of that context menu was my problem.
Thanks!
-derek
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derek(a)ihtfp.com www.ihtfp.com
Computer and Internet Security Consultant
7:07 p.m.
On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 11:47 AM, Derek Atkins <derek(a)ihtfp.com> wrote:
Okay, I'll bite. Which button is that?
I'm in the Virtual Machines tab on the admin portal; I select the hung VM
from my list and I see the following items at the top of the page:
"New VM", "Import", "Edit", "Remove", "Clone
VM", "Run Once", "<Run>",
"<Suspend>", "<Shutdown>", "<Reboot>",
"<Console>", "Migrate", "Cancel
Migration", "Cancel Conversion", and then the right arrow to "Make
Template", "Export", "Create Snapshot", "Change CD",
"Assign Tags", and
"Guide Me".
Please, kind sir, which one is the "power off" instead of
"shutdown"?
While I do not appreciate your tone of conversation, I'll oblige, assuming
you haven't had your morning coffee yet. Right click the VM, the option is
right there. See the screenshot attached
Just so you are aware, power off pulls the plug out of the VM, it kills it
outright, so the effect will be just as if you've lost power to it. It is
generally healthier to solve the shutdown problem.
Here's a hint, this isn't about Windows 10, but might hit close the mark
nonetheless:
https://serverfault.com/questions/844188/shut-down-windows-server-2012r2-...
-derek
On Thu, May 4, 2017 11:38 am, Dan Yasny wrote:
> Have you tried "power off" instead of "shutdown"?
>
> On May 4, 2017 11:36 AM, "Derek Atkins" <derek(a)ihtfp.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm running ovirt-4.0.6 on EL7.3.
>>
>> I've got a stuck VM (Windows 10) that I'm trying to restart.
>> Unfortunately it's "up" enough that ovirt is trying to perform a
>> soft-shutdown, but it's not up enough to complete the task. If I login
>> to the ovirt admin portal as the admin, select shutdown, I see the
>> following engine log messages before I get an event "Shutdown of VM
>> <vm-name> failed.":
>>
>> 2017-05-04 11:23:27,774 INFO [org.ovirt.engine.core.dal.
>> dbbroker.auditloghandling.AuditLogDirector]
>> (org.ovirt.thread.pool-6-thread-14)
>> [3f629ae6] Correlation ID: 3f629ae6, Job ID:
>> 1f5275cd-d2fe-44d5-a1cf-d1920e3f3378,
>> Call Stack: null, Custom Event ID: -1, Message: VM shutdown initiated by
>> admin@internal-authz on VM win10-64 (Host: ovirt-0).
>> 2017-05-04 11:28:38,237 INFO
>> [org.ovirt.engine.core.vdsbroker.monitoring.VmAnalyzer]
>> (DefaultQuartzScheduler10) [4cf2f258] VM
>> 'c9830039-9bf9-4c6a-8eae-da9c24aad899'(win10-64)
>> moved from 'PoweringDown' --> 'Up'
>> 2017-05-04 11:28:38,287 WARN [org.ovirt.engine.core.dal.
>> dbbroker.auditloghandling.AuditLogDirector] (DefaultQuartzScheduler10)
>> [4cf2f258] Correlation ID: null, Call Stack: null, Custom Event ID: -1,
>> Message: Shutdown of VM win10-64 failed.
>>
>> So, how can I get out of this situation? How can I force-powerdown this
>> VM so I can reboot it?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> -derek
>>
>> --
>> Derek Atkins 617-623-3745
>> derek(a)ihtfp.com www.ihtfp.com
>> Computer and Internet Security Consultant
>> _______________________________________________
>> Users mailing list
>> Users(a)ovirt.org
>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
>>
>
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derek(a)ihtfp.com www.ihtfp.com
Computer and Internet Security Consultant
7:23 p.m.
Dan,
On Thu, May 4, 2017 12:07 pm, Dan Yasny wrote:
On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 11:47 AM, Derek Atkins <derek(a)ihtfp.com>
wrote:
> Okay, I'll bite. Which button is that?
>
> I'm in the Virtual Machines tab on the admin portal; I select the hung
> VM
> from my list and I see the following items at the top of the page:
> "New VM", "Import", "Edit", "Remove",
"Clone VM", "Run Once", "<Run>",
> "<Suspend>", "<Shutdown>",
"<Reboot>", "<Console>", "Migrate",
"Cancel
> Migration", "Cancel Conversion", and then the right arrow to
"Make
> Template", "Export", "Create Snapshot", "Change
CD", "Assign Tags", and
> "Guide Me".
>
> Please, kind sir, which one is the "power off" instead of
"shutdown"?
>
>
While I do not appreciate your tone of conversation, I'll oblige, assuming
you haven't had your morning coffee yet. Right click the VM, the option is
right there. See the screenshot attached
Aha, so there is a hidden context menu with additional options.. THAT was
the key. Thank you. I was unaware of a right-click context menu for VMs
(or indeed anywhere in the webui). Is this documented somewhere?
As for my tone, don't you think I had looked for a "power off" button?
Your first reply was, while 100% correct, completely useless is helping.
Of course I wanted power off; I couldn't find it. THIS message, thank
you, provided what I needed.
Just so you are aware, power off pulls the plug out of the VM, it
kills it
outright, so the effect will be just as if you've lost power to it. It is
generally healthier to solve the shutdown problem.
I am very aware, thank you. I've been running VMs since, oh, 1993. My
last system was a vmware-based solution which I had in production for
about a decade. (It had a "power off" button in plain sight, by the way).
I spent an hour trying various ways to gracefully shut the system down
before I emailed, but the VM was completely wedged, not responding to
keyboard or mouse events. I tried soft reboot and soft shutdown to no
avail. I tried sending Ctl-Alt-Del, to no avail... Power Off is, of
course, a last resort, but I couldn't find the option (until you pointed
me to the right-click context menu, so again, thank you). I'll note that
even a google for "ovirt power off guest" does not provide the hint about
the right-click context menu.
Here's a hint, this isn't about Windows 10, but might hit
close the mark
nonetheless:
https://serverfault.com/questions/844188/shut-down-windows-server-2012r2-...
I can look into this, but I don't think it would help this situation; like
I said, the machine was completely wedged. Also, the machine auto-logs-in
so there is always a "user", so again, probably not applicable to my
situation.
Thanks Again!!
-derek
> -derek
>
> On Thu, May 4, 2017 11:38 am, Dan Yasny wrote:
> > Have you tried "power off" instead of "shutdown"?
> >
> > On May 4, 2017 11:36 AM, "Derek Atkins" <derek(a)ihtfp.com>
wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I'm running ovirt-4.0.6 on EL7.3.
> >>
> >> I've got a stuck VM (Windows 10) that I'm trying to restart.
> >> Unfortunately it's "up" enough that ovirt is trying to perform
a
> >> soft-shutdown, but it's not up enough to complete the task. If I
> login
> >> to the ovirt admin portal as the admin, select shutdown, I see the
> >> following engine log messages before I get an event "Shutdown of VM
> >> <vm-name> failed.":
> >>
> >> 2017-05-04 11:23:27,774 INFO [org.ovirt.engine.core.dal.
> >> dbbroker.auditloghandling.AuditLogDirector]
> >> (org.ovirt.thread.pool-6-thread-14)
> >> [3f629ae6] Correlation ID: 3f629ae6, Job ID:
> >> 1f5275cd-d2fe-44d5-a1cf-d1920e3f3378,
> >> Call Stack: null, Custom Event ID: -1, Message: VM shutdown initiated
> by
> >> admin@internal-authz on VM win10-64 (Host: ovirt-0).
> >> 2017-05-04 11:28:38,237 INFO
> >> [org.ovirt.engine.core.vdsbroker.monitoring.VmAnalyzer]
> >> (DefaultQuartzScheduler10) [4cf2f258] VM
> >> 'c9830039-9bf9-4c6a-8eae-da9c24aad899'(win10-64)
> >> moved from 'PoweringDown' --> 'Up'
> >> 2017-05-04 11:28:38,287 WARN [org.ovirt.engine.core.dal.
> >> dbbroker.auditloghandling.AuditLogDirector]
> (DefaultQuartzScheduler10)
> >> [4cf2f258] Correlation ID: null, Call Stack: null, Custom Event ID:
> -1,
> >> Message: Shutdown of VM win10-64 failed.
> >>
> >> So, how can I get out of this situation? How can I force-powerdown
> this
> >> VM so I can reboot it?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> -derek
> >>
> >> --
> >> Derek Atkins 617-623-3745
> >> derek(a)ihtfp.com www.ihtfp.com
> >> Computer and Internet Security Consultant
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Users mailing list
> >> Users(a)ovirt.org
> >> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
> >>
> >
>
>
> --
> Derek Atkins 617-623-3745
> derek(a)ihtfp.com www.ihtfp.com
> Computer and Internet Security Consultant
>
>
--
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derek(a)ihtfp.com www.ihtfp.com
Computer and Internet Security Consultant
7:33 p.m.
On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 12:23 PM, Derek Atkins <derek(a)ihtfp.com> wrote:
Dan,
On Thu, May 4, 2017 12:07 pm, Dan Yasny wrote:
> On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 11:47 AM, Derek Atkins <derek(a)ihtfp.com> wrote:
>
>> Okay, I'll bite. Which button is that?
>>
>> I'm in the Virtual Machines tab on the admin portal; I select the hung
>> VM
>> from my list and I see the following items at the top of the page:
>> "New VM", "Import", "Edit", "Remove",
"Clone VM", "Run Once", "<Run>",
>> "<Suspend>", "<Shutdown>",
"<Reboot>", "<Console>", "Migrate",
"Cancel
>> Migration", "Cancel Conversion", and then the right arrow to
"Make
>> Template", "Export", "Create Snapshot", "Change
CD", "Assign Tags", and
>> "Guide Me".
>>
>> Please, kind sir, which one is the "power off" instead of
"shutdown"?
>>
>>
> While I do not appreciate your tone of conversation, I'll oblige,
assuming
> you haven't had your morning coffee yet. Right click the VM, the option
is
> right there. See the screenshot attached
Aha, so there is a hidden context menu with additional options.. THAT was
the key. Thank you. I was unaware of a right-click context menu for VMs
(or indeed anywhere in the webui). Is this documented somewhere?
I haven't seen it documented, oVirt/RHEV always had a full blown GUI, which
allowed for rightclicks, I normally try a rightclick in every UI that is
new to me. I suppose the fact that it's a web UI might have caused you to
believe a rightclick is irrelevant, and if that's the case, for product
maturity's sake, I'd suggest you post a bug in bugzilla to explicitly
document the possibility of rightclicking.
As for my tone, don't you think I had looked for a "power
off" button?
Your first reply was, while 100% correct, completely useless is helping.
Of course I wanted power off; I couldn't find it. THIS message, thank
you, provided what I needed.
Maybe I'm old fashioned (or just plain out old), but I usually hold myself
back, no matter how annoyed I am, from taking such tones with people whom I
do not know and who are, moreover, trying to help me. But that's just me,
I'm not your father to teach you how to behave.
> Just so you are aware, power off pulls the plug out of the VM, it kills
it
> outright, so the effect will be just as if you've lost power to it. It is
> generally healthier to solve the shutdown problem.
I am very aware, thank you. I've been running VMs since, oh, 1993. My
last system was a vmware-based solution which I had in production for
about a decade. (It had a "power off" button in plain sight, by the way).
There is limited space "in plain sight", this is why there is the right
click menu available with all the options. Which buttons should be present
outside that menu is arguable, if you think "power off" should be there,
please open a BZ and provide your reasons.
I spent an hour trying various ways to gracefully shut the system down
before I emailed, but the VM was completely wedged, not responding to
keyboard or mouse events. I tried soft reboot and soft shutdown to no
avail. I tried sending Ctl-Alt-Del, to no avail... Power Off is, of
course, a last resort, but I couldn't find the option (until you pointed
me to the right-click context menu, so again, thank you). I'll note that
even a google for "ovirt power off guest" does not provide the hint about
the right-click context menu.
> Here's a hint, this isn't about Windows 10, but might hit close the mark
> nonetheless:
> https://serverfault.com/questions/844188/shut-down-
windows-server-2012r2-kvm-vm/845521#845521
I can look into this, but I don't think it would help this situation; like
I said, the machine was completely wedged. Also, the machine auto-logs-in
so there is always a "user", so again, probably not applicable to my
situation.
Thanks Again!!
-derek
>
>> -derek
>>
>> On Thu, May 4, 2017 11:38 am, Dan Yasny wrote:
>> > Have you tried "power off" instead of "shutdown"?
>> >
>> > On May 4, 2017 11:36 AM, "Derek Atkins" <derek(a)ihtfp.com>
wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> I'm running ovirt-4.0.6 on EL7.3.
>> >>
>> >> I've got a stuck VM (Windows 10) that I'm trying to restart.
>> >> Unfortunately it's "up" enough that ovirt is trying to
perform a
>> >> soft-shutdown, but it's not up enough to complete the task. If I
>> login
>> >> to the ovirt admin portal as the admin, select shutdown, I see the
>> >> following engine log messages before I get an event "Shutdown of
VM
>> >> <vm-name> failed.":
>> >>
>> >> 2017-05-04 11:23:27,774 INFO [org.ovirt.engine.core.dal.
>> >> dbbroker.auditloghandling.AuditLogDirector]
>> >> (org.ovirt.thread.pool-6-thread-14)
>> >> [3f629ae6] Correlation ID: 3f629ae6, Job ID:
>> >> 1f5275cd-d2fe-44d5-a1cf-d1920e3f3378,
>> >> Call Stack: null, Custom Event ID: -1, Message: VM shutdown initiated
>> by
>> >> admin@internal-authz on VM win10-64 (Host: ovirt-0).
>> >> 2017-05-04 11:28:38,237 INFO
>> >> [org.ovirt.engine.core.vdsbroker.monitoring.VmAnalyzer]
>> >> (DefaultQuartzScheduler10) [4cf2f258] VM
>> >> 'c9830039-9bf9-4c6a-8eae-da9c24aad899'(win10-64)
>> >> moved from 'PoweringDown' --> 'Up'
>> >> 2017-05-04 11:28:38,287 WARN [org.ovirt.engine.core.dal.
>> >> dbbroker.auditloghandling.AuditLogDirector]
>> (DefaultQuartzScheduler10)
>> >> [4cf2f258] Correlation ID: null, Call Stack: null, Custom Event ID:
>> -1,
>> >> Message: Shutdown of VM win10-64 failed.
>> >>
>> >> So, how can I get out of this situation? How can I force-powerdown
>> this
>> >> VM so I can reboot it?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >>
>> >> -derek
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Derek Atkins 617-623-3745
>> >> derek(a)ihtfp.com www.ihtfp.com
>> >> Computer and Internet Security Consultant
>> >> _______________________________________________
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5:48 p.m.
Dan,
Dan Yasny <dyasny(a)gmail.com> writes:
I haven't seen it documented, oVirt/RHEV always had a full blown
GUI, which
allowed for rightclicks, I normally try a rightclick in every UI that is new
to me. I suppose the fact that it's a web UI might have caused you to believe
a rightclick is irrelevant, and if that's the case, for product maturity's
sake, I'd suggest you post a bug in bugzilla to explicitly document the
possibility of rightclicking.
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1448491
You are correct. The fact that it's a webUI, and the fact that there is
an extension of "functions that don't fit in the window", led me to
believe a rightclick is irrelevant.
As for my tone, don't you think I had looked for a
"power off" button?
Your first reply was, while 100% correct, completely useless is helping.
Of course I wanted power off; I couldn't find it. THIS message, thank
you, provided what I needed.
Maybe I'm old fashioned (or just plain out old), but I usually hold myself
back, no matter how annoyed I am, from taking such tones with people whom I do
not know and who are, moreover, trying to help me. But that's just me, I'm not
your father to teach you how to behave.
As someone who has manned a user-list "helpdesk" for the past 18 years
for an accounting program, when I'm trying to help a user I not only
point out the feature they want, but also how to find it. My assumption
is that the user generally knows what they want but doesn't know how to
do it. Your initial response gave the first part without the second --
so to me YOUR initial response came across as flippant, so I did respond
in kind. Mea culpa. Hopefully we both learn from this?
> Just so you are aware, power off pulls the plug out of the
VM, it kills
it
> outright, so the effect will be just as if you've lost power to it. It
is
> generally healthier to solve the shutdown problem.
I am very aware, thank you. I've been running VMs since, oh, 1993. My
last system was a vmware-based solution which I had in production for
about a decade. (It had a "power off" button in plain sight, by the way).
There is limited space "in plain sight", this is why there is the right click
menu available with all the options. Which buttons should be present outside
that menu is arguable, if you think "power off" should be there, please open a
BZ and provide your reasons.
The visible menu already has the right-arrow at the side for "additional
functions that can't be shown", so I'm afraid I don't buy this argument.
Similarly, the addition of one more icon wouldn't require a lot of real
estate. *shrugs* I'm just a user of ovirt and I get what I pay for.
Thanks,
-derek
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Just click twice on the "shutdown" button -> this will kill the VM
process immediately
On 05/04/2017 05:38 PM, Dan Yasny wrote:
Have you tried "power off" instead of
"shutdown"?
On May 4, 2017 11:36 AM, "Derek Atkins" <derek(a)ihtfp.com
<mailto:derek@ihtfp.com>> wrote:
Hi,
I'm running ovirt-4.0.6 on EL7.3.
I've got a stuck VM (Windows 10) that I'm trying to restart.
Unfortunately it's "up" enough that ovirt is trying to perform a
soft-shutdown, but it's not up enough to complete the task. If I
login
to the ovirt admin portal as the admin, select shutdown, I see the
following engine log messages before I get an event "Shutdown of VM=
<vm-name> failed.":
2017-05-04 11:23:27,774 INFO=20
[org.ovirt.engine.core.dal.dbbroker.auditloghandling.AuditLogDirect=
or]
(org.ovirt.thread.pool-6-thread-14) [3f629ae6] Correlation ID:
3f629ae6, Job ID: 1f5275cd-d2fe-44d5-a1cf-d1920e3f3378, Call
Stack: null, Custom Event ID: -1, Message: VM shutdown initiated
by admin@internal-authz on VM win10-64 (Host: ovirt-0).
2017-05-04 11:28:38,237 INFO=20
[org.ovirt.engine.core.vdsbroker.monitoring.VmAnalyzer]
(DefaultQuartzScheduler10) [4cf2f258] VM
'c9830039-9bf9-4c6a-8eae-da9c24aad899'(win10-64) moved from
'PoweringDown' --> 'Up'
2017-05-04 11:28:38,287 WARN=20
[org.ovirt.engine.core.dal.dbbroker.auditloghandling.AuditLogDirect=
or]
(DefaultQuartzScheduler10) [4cf2f258] Correlation ID: null, Call
Stack: null, Custom Event ID: -1, Message: Shutdown of VM win10-64
failed.
So, how can I get out of this situation? How can I
force-powerdown this
VM so I can reboot it?
Thanks,
-derek
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<p>Just click twice on the "shutdown" button -> this will kill
the VM process immediately <br>
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<br>
I'm running ovirt-4.0.6 on EL7.3.<br>
<br>
I've got a stuck VM (Windows 10) that I'm trying to restart.<=
br>
Unfortunately it's "up" enough that ovirt is trying to
perform a<br>
soft-shutdown, but it's not up enough to complete the task.=A0=
If I login<br>
to the ovirt admin portal as the admin, select shutdown, I
see the<br>
following engine log messages before I get an event
"Shutdown of VM<br>
<vm-name> failed.":<br>
<br>
2017-05-04 11:23:27,774 INFO=A0 [org.ovirt.engine.core.dal.<w=
br>dbbroker.auditloghandling.<wbr>AuditLogDirector]
(org.ovirt.thread.pool-6-<wbr>thread-14) [3f629ae6]
Correlation ID: 3f629ae6, Job ID: 1f5275cd-d2fe-44d5-a1cf-<wb=
r>d1920e3f3378,
Call Stack: null, Custom Event ID: -1, Message: VM shutdown
initiated by admin@internal-authz on VM win10-64 (Host:
ovirt-0).<br>
2017-05-04 11:28:38,237 INFO=A0 [org.ovirt.engine.core.<wbr>v=
dsbroker.monitoring.<wbr>VmAnalyzer]
(DefaultQuartzScheduler10) [4cf2f258] VM
'c9830039-9bf9-4c6a-8eae-<wbr>da9c24aad899'(win10-64) moved
from 'PoweringDown' --> 'Up'<br>
2017-05-04 11:28:38,287 WARN=A0 [org.ovirt.engine.core.dal.<w=
br>dbbroker.auditloghandling.<wbr>AuditLogDirector]
(DefaultQuartzScheduler10) [4cf2f258] Correlation ID: null,
Call Stack: null, Custom Event ID: -1, Message: Shutdown of
VM win10-64 failed.<br>
<br>
So, how can I get out of this situation?=A0 How can I
force-powerdown this<br>
VM so I can reboot it?<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
<br>
-derek<br>
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5:42 p.m.
Kai,
Kai Wagner <kwagner(a)suse.com> writes:
Just click twice on the "shutdown" button -> this will
kill the VM process
immediately
Is this documented somewhere? In googling various terms like "power
off", "force shutdown", etc I didn't find this trick anywhere (nor did
I
find the right-click menu). My searching did come up with the "Reboot"
feature which was supposed to force-shutdown after a timeout, but that
is apparently not implemented yet.
Thanks,
-derek
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8:54 p.m.
On 5 May 2017, at 16:42, Derek Atkins <derek(a)ihtfp.com> wrote:
Kai,
Kai Wagner <kwagner(a)suse.com> writes:
> Just click twice on the "shutdown" button -> this will kill the VM
process
> immediately
Is this documented somewhere? In googling various terms like "power
off", "force shutdown", etc I didn't find this trick anywhere (nor did
I
find the right-click menu). My searching did come up with the "Reboot"
feature which was supposed to force-shutdown after a timeout, but that
is apparently not implemented yet.
Hi Derek,
it is implemented, it may not work as supposed to though:)
Did you try it, how long did you wait, was the VM completely stuck or services were
supposed to be running ok, do you have guest-agent running in the guest?
Thanks,
michal
Thanks,
-derek
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Hi Michal,
Michal Skrivanek <michal.skrivanek(a)redhat.com> writes:
> On 5 May 2017, at 16:42, Derek Atkins <derek(a)ihtfp.com>
wrote:
>
> Kai,
>
> Kai Wagner <kwagner(a)suse.com> writes:
>
>> Just click twice on the "shutdown" button -> this will kill the VM
process
>> immediately
>
> Is this documented somewhere? In googling various terms like "power
> off", "force shutdown", etc I didn't find this trick anywhere (nor
did I
> find the right-click menu). My searching did come up with the "Reboot"
> feature which was supposed to force-shutdown after a timeout, but that
> is apparently not implemented yet.
Hi Derek,
it is implemented, it may not work as supposed to though:)
Did you try it, how long did you wait, was the VM completely stuck or
services were supposed to be running ok, do you have guest-agent
running in the guest?
The VM was completely stuck.. Connecting to the console I'd see an
image but the "clock" was frozen, the mouse wouldn't move, and it
wouldn't respond to any keypresses. The VM guest normally does run the
guest agent tools, but I suspect they were not repsonding at all.
What I tried:
1) The reboot button.
2) The shutdown button.
3) The shutdown button again (still only a single click).
4) (after this thread) Right Click -> Power Off
I have not tried clicking twice on the shutdown button. If this VM
hangs again I can try it again. I don't know what caused the VM to hang
so I'm not sure exactly how to reproduce this issue.
In terms of the "reboot" feature that I claim not not be implemented,
I'm referring to [0]. The documentation of this feature claims that it
will timeout and force a power off. Assuming the current reboot is this
feature, it did not do that. Interestingly, as I re-read this page now
it DOES mention the context menu and a "power off" feature!
Thank you,
Thanks,
michal
-derek
[0] http://www.ovirt.org/develop/release-management/features/engine/guest-reb...
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On 05/05/2017 04:42 PM, Derek Atkins wrote:
Kai,
Kai Wagner <kwagner(a)suse.com> writes:
> Just click twice on the "shutdown" button -> this will kill the VM pro=
cess
> immediately
Is this documented somewhere? In googling various terms like "power
off", "force shutdown", etc I didn't find this trick anywhere (nor did
=
I
find the right-click menu). My searching did come up with the
"Reboot"=
feature which was supposed to force-shutdown after a timeout, but
that
is apparently not implemented yet.
I'm an RHEV/oVirt user since the beginning -
I don't know to be honest
but this this trick is working since years. Can't remember if I just
found out by luck or read is somewhere.
Didn't know this is a "secret" ;-)
Thanks,
-derek
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