--_000_B47F00825D68444ABC037330782753603771B72A013BR1MPN1012MG_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sorry, forgot to copyall... From: Bill Dossett s Sent: 18 February 2015 17:37 To: 'Donny Davis' Subject: RE: [ovirt-users] ovirt and glusterfs setup Well, it seems to be something that RedHat were saying was going to be supp= orted. I am far more familiar with VMware VSAN and that is current a VERY hot topi= c. With VMware HA and VSAN capabilities and new chassis coming out with very h= igh density drive capabilities and the correct number of nodes, you can los= e a node with no more downtime than if compute and storage are separated an= d it's a helluva lot less expensive than traditional Fibre SAN. Saying that it is in it's infancy. I'm interested in your ovirt deployment - thanks for the kind offer - but v= ery short on time as well as this is a side project - so this may move at a= snails pace... so I thought I could get started on my own. I think I instaslled ovirt 3.2 previously... and I did see mention of Glust= er Domains. If you let me know what I need to do to have a look at your de= ployment I would appreciate it. I may be slow at responding though as I am spread very thin right now. Thanks Bill From: Donny Davis [mailto:donny@cloudspin.me] Sent: 18 February 2015 13:30 To: Bill Dossett Subject: RE: [ovirt-users] ovirt and glusterfs setup I can tell you from my experience that you should have your storage and com= pute node separate. Gluster support is built into ovirt, and you just need = to make sure when setting up your engine you tell it to be [both] The architecture you describe whether it be vmware or ovirt is destined to = be a disaster. That is my matter of opinion based on my experience. I have a free to use ovirt deployment that you could run your desired setup= on. Donny D cloudspin.me From: users-bounces@ovirt.org<mailto:users-bounces@ovirt.org> [mailto:users= -bounces@ovirt.org] On Behalf Of Bill Dossett Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 4:33 AM To: users@ovirt.org<mailto:users@ovirt.org> Subject: [ovirt-users] ovirt and glusterfs setup Hi, I'm in at the deep end... Looking for some advice on if this is possible - and what version I should = try I with if so. We are a heavily VMware oriented company... but I am trying to get RHEV/oVi= rt in the door. Honestly I would prefer oVirt, but if they insist on enter= prise support I go to Redhat. So I have had a play with VMware VSAN and know how it works. I am trying t= o more or less replicate this setup using open source. So VSAN uses 3 or more ESXi nodes, with local harddisks as the storage medi= um as a virtual SAN. The SAN performance is quite high as you put at least= 1 SSD in each node. What is nice is you don't have the NAS element here. VMs are on the local = storage, which is partially SSD, so performance is quite good. I went to a Redhat presentation on Redhat storage and GlusterFS and basical= ly this acts as a big software defined NAS which does some pretty cool thin= gs, but that's not exactly what I need. I would like to build oVirt on top of CentOS Oss... that have local storage= in them that is distributed and redundant in the event of a node failure. And I probably need to try and build this in a lab under Fusion on my Mac B= ook pro to begin with anyway (that bit I'm farily confident with) and if I = get that working can probably get some older kit to try it out for real as = a PoC to few people. So, I've set up oVirt before that should be ok, I haven't setup Gluster is = there any documents that would help me down this road and make sure I start= out using the best version. Any advice or pointers would be gratefully received. Thanks Bill Dossett Systems Architect Tech Central - Global Engineering Services T +44 (0)1923 279353 M +44 (0)777 590 8612 b<mailto:jeff.gonzalez@pb.com>ill.dossett@pb.com<mailto:ill.dossett@pb.com> pitneybowes.com Pitney Bowes 6 Hercules Way | Leavesden | WD25 7GS | UK Learn more about Global Engineering Services<http://teamsite.inside.pb.com/= sites/TCPPM/GES/SitePages/Home.aspx> In Engineering? Raise a ticket via Remedy Anywhere [HERE<teamsite.inside.pb.com/sites/TCPPM= /GES/Lists/Create%20Incident/newIncident.aspx>] takes less than a minute CloudForms User Guide available [HERE<https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6= 219441/ManageIQ%20-%20User%20Manual%20PB%20v5.pdf>] ________________________________ ________________________________ --_000_B47F00825D68444ABC037330782753603771B72A013BR1MPN1012MG_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html xmlns:v=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o=3D"urn:schemas-micr= osoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" = xmlns:m=3D"http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns=3D"http:= //www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii"=
<meta name=3D"Generator" content=3D"Microsoft Word 15 (filtered medium)"> <!--[if !mso]><style>v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);} </style><![endif]--><style><!-- /* Font Definitions */ @font-face {font-family:"Cambria Math"; panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;} @font-face {font-family:Calibri; panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;} @font-face {font-family:Tahoma; panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;} /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {margin:0cm; margin-bottom:.0001pt; font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";} a:link, span.MsoHyperlink {mso-style-priority:99; color:#0563C1; text-decoration:underline;} a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed {mso-style-priority:99; color:#954F72; text-decoration:underline;} span.EmailStyle17 {mso-style-type:personal; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:windowtext;} span.EmailStyle18 {mso-style-type:personal; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D;} span.EmailStyle19 {mso-style-type:personal; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D;} span.EmailStyle20 {mso-style-type:personal-reply; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D;} .MsoChpDefault {mso-style-type:export-only; font-size:10.0pt;} @page WordSection1 {size:612.0pt 792.0pt; margin:72.0pt 72.0pt 72.0pt 72.0pt;} div.WordSection1 {page:WordSection1;} --></style><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:shapedefaults v:ext=3D"edit" spidmax=3D"1026" /> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:shapelayout v:ext=3D"edit"> <o:idmap v:ext=3D"edit" data=3D"1" /> </o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--> </head> <body lang=3D"EN-GB" link=3D"#0563C1" vlink=3D"#954F72"> <div class=3D"WordSection1"> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN= -US">Sorry, forgot to copyall…<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN= -US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <div> <div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm = 0cm 0cm"> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang= =3D"EN-US"> Bill Dossett s<br> <b>Sent:</b> 18 February 2015 17:37<br> <b>To:</b> 'Donny Davis'<br> <b>Subject:</b> RE: [ovirt-users] ovirt and glusterfs setup<o:p></o:p></spa= n></p> </div> </div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN= -US">Well, it seems to be something that RedHat were saying was going to be= supported.<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN= -US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN= -US">I am far more familiar with VMware VSAN and that is current a VERY hot= topic.<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN= -US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN= -US">With VMware HA and VSAN capabilities and new chassis coming out with v= ery high density drive capabilities and the correct number of nodes, you ca= n lose a node with no more downtime than if compute and storage are separated and it’s a helluva lot les= s expensive than traditional Fibre SAN.<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN= -US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN= -US">Saying that it is in it’s infancy.<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN= -US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN= -US">I’m interested in your ovirt deployment – thanks for the k= ind offer - but very short on time as well as this is a side project –= ; so this may move at a snails pace… so I thought I could get started on my own.<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN= -US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN= -US">I think I instaslled ovirt 3.2 previously… and I did see mention= of Gluster Domains. If you let me know what I need to do to have a l= ook at your deployment I would appreciate it.<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN= -US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN= -US">I may be slow at responding though as I am spread very thin right now.= <o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN= -US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN= -US">Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN= -US">Bill<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN= -US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN= -US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <div> <div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm = 0cm 0cm"> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang= =3D"EN-US"> Donny Davis [<a href=3D"mailto:donny@cloudspin.me">mailto:donny= @cloudspin.me</a>] <br> <b>Sent:</b> 18 February 2015 13:30<br> <b>To:</b> Bill Dossett<br> <b>Subject:</b> RE: [ovirt-users] ovirt and glusterfs setup<o:p></o:p></spa= n></p> </div> </div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">I can t= ell you from my experience that you should have your storage and compute no= de separate. Gluster support is built into ovirt, and you just need to make= sure when setting up your engine you tell it to be [both]<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n= bsp;</o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">The arc= hitecture you describe whether it be vmware or ovirt is destined to be a di= saster. That is my matter of opinion based on my experience. <o= :p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n= bsp;</o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">I have = a free to use ovirt deployment that you could run your desired setup on. <o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n= bsp;</o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Donny D= <o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n= bsp;</o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">cloudsp= in.me <o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n= bsp;</o:p></span></p> <div> <div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm = 0cm 0cm"> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fo= nt-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span = lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",&qu= ot;sans-serif""> <a href=3D"mailto:users-bounces@ovirt.org">users-bounces@ovirt.org</a> [<a = href=3D"mailto:users-bounces@ovirt.org">mailto:users-bounces@ovirt.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Bill Dossett<br> <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 18, 2015 4:33 AM<br> <b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:users@ovirt.org">users@ovirt.org</a><br> <b>Subject:</b> [ovirt-users] ovirt and glusterfs setup<o:p></o:p></span></= p> </div> </div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hi,<o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">I’m in at the deep end…<o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Looking for some advice on if this is possible ̵= 1; and what version I should try I with if so.<o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">We are a heavily VMware oriented company… but = I am trying to get RHEV/oVirt in the door. Honestly I would prefer oV= irt, but if they insist on enterprise support I go to Redhat.<o:p></o:p></p=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">So I have had a play with VMware VSAN and know how i= t works. I am trying to more or less replicate this setup using open = source.<o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">So VSAN uses 3 or more ESXi nodes, with local harddi= sks as the storage medium as a virtual SAN. The SAN performance is qu= ite high as you put at least 1 SSD in each node.<o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">What is nice is you don’t have the NAS element= here. VMs are on the local storage, which is partially SSD, so perfo= rmance is quite good.<o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">I went to a Redhat presentation on Redhat storage an= d GlusterFS and basically this acts as a big software defined NAS which doe= s some pretty cool things, but that’s not exactly what I need.<o:p></= o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">I would like to build oVirt on top of CentOS OssR= 30; that have local storage in them that is distributed and redundant in th= e event of a node failure.<o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">And I probably need to try and build this in a lab u= nder Fusion on my Mac Book pro to begin with anyway (that bit I’m far= ily confident with) and if I get that working can probably get some older k= it to try it out for real as a PoC to few people.<o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">So, I’ve set up oVirt before that should be ok= , I haven’t setup Gluster is there any documents that would help me d= own this road and make sure I start out using the best version.<o:p></o:p><= /p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Any advice or pointers would be gratefully received.= <o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thanks<o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> <table class=3D"MsoNormalTable" border=3D"0" cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding= =3D"0" width=3D"640" style=3D"width:480.0pt"> <tbody> <tr> <td width=3D"640" style=3D"width:480.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm"> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"= ;Arial","sans-serif";color:#0082D5">Bill Dossett</span></b><= o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Ar= ial","sans-serif"">Systems Architect</span><o:p></o:p></p> </td> </tr> <tr> <td width=3D"640" style=3D"width:480.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm"> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"= ;Arial","sans-serif"">Tech Central – Global Engineerin= g Services</span></b><o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt"> </span><o:p><= /o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"= ;Arial","sans-serif"">T</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:1= 0.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> +44 (= 0)1923 279353</span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"= ;Arial","sans-serif"">M</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:1= 0.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> +44 (= 0)777 590 8612</span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a href=3D"mailto:jeff.gonzalez@pb.com"><span style= =3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";c= olor:purple">b</span></a><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"= Arial","sans-serif";color:#0082D5"><a href=3D"mailto:ill.dos= sett@pb.com"><span style=3D"color:blue">ill.dossett@pb.com</span></a></span= pan style=3D"color:#0082D5"><a href=3D"teamsite.inside.pb.com/sites/TCPPM/G= ES/Lists/Create%20Incident/newIncident.aspx"><span style=3D"color:#0082D5">= HERE</span></a></span>]<span style=3D"color:blue"> </span>takes less than a minute</span></b><o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"= ;Arial","sans-serif""> </span></b><o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"= ;Arial","sans-serif"">CloudForms User Guide available</span>= </b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","san= s-serif""> [<b><span style=3D"color:#0082D5"><a href=3D"https://d= l.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6219441/ManageIQ%20-%20User%20Manual%20PB%20v5.p= df"><span style=3D"color:#0082D5">HERE</span></a></span></b>]</span><o:p></= o:p></p> </td> </tr> </tbody> </table> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Ti= mes New Roman","serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Ti= mes New Roman","serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <div class=3D"MsoNormal" align=3D"center" style=3D"text-align:center"><span= style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","se= rif""> <hr size=3D"2" width=3D"100%" align=3D"center"> </span></div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Ti= mes New Roman","serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p> </div> <br> <hr> <font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"Black" size=3D"2"><br> </font> </body> </html> --_000_B47F00825D68444ABC037330782753603771B72A013BR1MPN1012MG_--