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From: Bill Dossett s
Sent: 18 February 2015 17:37
To: 'Donny Davis'
Subject: RE: [ovirt-users] ovirt and glusterfs setup
Well, it seems to be something that RedHat were saying was going to be supp=
orted.
I am far more familiar with VMware VSAN and that is current a VERY hot topi=
c.
With VMware HA and VSAN capabilities and new chassis coming out with very h=
igh density drive capabilities and the correct number of nodes, you can los=
e a node with no more downtime than if compute and storage are separated an=
d it's a helluva lot less expensive than traditional Fibre SAN.
Saying that it is in it's infancy.
I'm interested in your ovirt deployment - thanks for the kind offer - but v=
ery short on time as well as this is a side project - so this may move at a=
snails pace... so I thought I could get started on my own.
I think I instaslled ovirt 3.2 previously... and I did see mention of Glust=
er Domains. If you let me know what I need to do to have a look at your de=
ployment I would appreciate it.
I may be slow at responding though as I am spread very thin right now.
Thanks
Bill
From: Donny Davis [mailto:donny@cloudspin.me]
Sent: 18 February 2015 13:30
To: Bill Dossett
Subject: RE: [ovirt-users] ovirt and glusterfs setup
I can tell you from my experience that you should have your storage and com=
pute node separate. Gluster support is built into ovirt, and you just need =
to make sure when setting up your engine you tell it to be [both]
The architecture you describe whether it be vmware or ovirt is destined to =
be a disaster. That is my matter of opinion based on my experience.
I have a free to use ovirt deployment that you could run your desired setup=
on.
Donny D
cloudspin.me
From: users-bounces@ovirt.org<mailto:users-bounces@ovirt.org> [mailto:users=
-bounces(a)ovirt.org] On Behalf Of Bill Dossett
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 4:33 AM
To: users@ovirt.org<mailto:users@ovirt.org Subject:
[ovirt-users] ovirt and glusterfs setup
Hi,
I'm in at the deep end...
Looking for some advice on if this is possible - and what version I should =
try I with if so.
We are a heavily VMware oriented company... but I am trying to get RHEV/oVi=
rt in the door. Honestly I would prefer oVirt, but if they insist on enter=
prise support I go to Redhat.
So I have had a play with VMware VSAN and know how it works. I am trying t=
o more or less replicate this setup using open source.
So VSAN uses 3 or more ESXi nodes, with local harddisks as the storage medi=
um as a virtual SAN. The SAN performance is quite high as you put at least=
1 SSD in each node.
What is nice is you don't have the NAS element here. VMs are on the local =
storage, which is partially SSD, so performance is quite good.
I went to a Redhat presentation on Redhat storage and GlusterFS and basical=
ly this acts as a big software defined NAS which does some pretty cool thin=
gs, but that's not exactly what I need.
I would like to build oVirt on top of CentOS Oss... that have local storage=
in them that is distributed and redundant in the event of a node failure.
And I probably need to try and build this in a lab under Fusion on my Mac B=
ook pro to begin with anyway (that bit I'm farily confident with) and if I =
get that working can probably get some older kit to try it out for real as =
a PoC to few people.
So, I've set up oVirt before that should be ok, I haven't setup Gluster is =
there any documents that would help me down this road and make sure I start=
out using the best version.
Any advice or pointers would be gratefully received.
Thanks
Bill Dossett
Systems Architect
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class=3D"WordSection1" <p
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
style=3D"color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN=
-US">Sorry, forgot to
copyall…<o:p></o:p></span></p <p
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
style=3D"color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN=
-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p <div <div
style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm" <p
class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span
lang=3D"EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang=
=3D"EN-US"> Bill Dossett s<br
<b>Sent:</b> 18 February 2015 17:37<br
<b>To:</b> 'Donny Davis'<br
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [ovirt-users] ovirt and glusterfs
setup<o:p></o:p></spa=
n></p </div </div <p
class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
style=3D"color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN=
-US">Well, it seems to be something that RedHat were saying was going to be=
supported.<o:p></o:p></span></p <p
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
style=3D"color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN=
-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
style=3D"color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN=
-US">I am far more familiar with VMware VSAN and that is current a VERY hot=
topic.<o:p></o:p></span></p <p
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
style=3D"color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN=
-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
style=3D"color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN=
-US">With VMware HA and VSAN capabilities and new chassis coming out with v=
ery high density drive capabilities and the correct number of nodes, you ca=
n lose a node with no more downtime
than if compute and storage are separated and it’s a helluva lot les=
s expensive than traditional Fibre SAN.<o:p></o:p></span></p <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
style=3D"color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN=
-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
style=3D"color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN=
-US">Saying that it is in it’s
infancy.<o:p></o:p></span></p <p
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
style=3D"color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN=
-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
style=3D"color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN=
-US">I’m interested in your ovirt deployment – thanks for the
k=
ind offer - but very short on time as well as this is a side project –=
; so this may move at a snails pace… so I thought I could
get started on my own.<o:p></o:p></span></p <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
style=3D"color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN=
-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
style=3D"color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN=
-US">I think I instaslled ovirt 3.2 previously… and I did see mention=
of Gluster Domains. If you let me know what I need to do to have a l=
ook at your deployment I would appreciate
it.<o:p></o:p></span></p <p
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
style=3D"color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN=
-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
style=3D"color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN=
-US">I may be slow at responding though as I am spread very thin right now.=
<o:p></o:p></span></p <p
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
style=3D"color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN=
-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
style=3D"color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN=
-US">Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p <p
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
style=3D"color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN=
-US">Bill<o:p></o:p></span></p <p
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
style=3D"color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN=
-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
style=3D"color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN=
-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p <div <div
style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm" <p
class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span
lang=3D"EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang=
=3D"EN-US"> Donny Davis [<a
href=3D"mailto:donny@cloudspin.me">mailto:donny=
@cloudspin.me</a>]
<br <b>Sent:</b> 18 February 2015 13:30<br <b>To:</b> Bill Dossett<br <b>Subject:</b> RE: [ovirt-users] ovirt and
glusterfs setup<o:p></o:p></spa=
n></p </div </div <p
class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">I can t=
ell you from my experience that you should have your storage and compute no=
de separate. Gluster support is built into ovirt, and you just need to make=
sure when setting up your engine you
tell it to be [both]<o:p></o:p></span></p <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p <p
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"
style=3D"color:#1F497D">The arc=
hitecture you describe whether it be vmware or ovirt is destined to be a di=
saster. That is my matter of opinion based on my experience. <o=
:p></o:p></span></p <p
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"
style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p <p
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"
style=3D"color:#1F497D">I have =
a free to use ovirt deployment that you could run your desired setup on.
<o:p></o:p></span></p <p
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"
style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p <p
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"
style=3D"color:#1F497D">Donny D=
<o:p></o:p></span></p <p
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"
style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p <p
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"
style=3D"color:#1F497D">cloudsp=
in.me <o:p></o:p></span></p <p
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"
style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p
<div <div
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0cm 0cm" <p
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nt-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Bill Dossett<br
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 18, 2015 4:33 AM<br <b>To:</b> <a
href=3D"mailto:users@ovirt.org">users@ovirt.org</a><br <b>Subject:</b> [ovirt-users] ovirt and glusterfs
setup<o:p></o:p></span></=
p </div
</div <p
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p <p
class=3D"MsoNormal">Hi,<o:p></o:p></p <p
class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p <p class=3D"MsoNormal">I’m in at the
deep end…<o:p></o:p></p <p
class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Looking for some advice
on if this is possible ̵=
1; and what version I should try I with if so.<o:p></o:p></p <p
class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p <p class=3D"MsoNormal">We are a heavily VMware
oriented company… but =
I am trying to get RHEV/oVirt in the door. Honestly I would prefer oV=
irt, but if they insist on enterprise support I go to
Redhat.<o:p></o:p></p=
<p
class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p <p class=3D"MsoNormal">So I have had a play
with VMware VSAN and know how i=
t works. I am trying to more or less replicate this setup using open =
source.<o:p></o:p></p <p
class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p <p class=3D"MsoNormal">So VSAN uses 3 or more
ESXi nodes, with local harddi=
sks as the storage medium as a virtual SAN. The SAN performance is qu=
ite high as you put at least 1 SSD in each node.<o:p></o:p></p <p
class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p <p class=3D"MsoNormal">What is nice is you
don’t have the NAS element=
here. VMs are on the local storage, which is partially SSD, so perfo=
rmance is quite good.<o:p></o:p></p <p
class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p <p class=3D"MsoNormal">I went to a Redhat
presentation on Redhat storage an=
d GlusterFS and basically this acts as a big software defined NAS which doe=
s some pretty cool things, but that’s not exactly what I need.<o:p></=
o:p></p <p
class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p <p class=3D"MsoNormal">I would like to build
oVirt on top of CentOS OssR=
30; that have local storage in them that is distributed and redundant in th=
e event of a node failure.<o:p></o:p></p <p
class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p <p class=3D"MsoNormal">And I probably need to
try and build this in a lab u=
nder Fusion on my Mac Book pro to begin with anyway (that bit I’m far=
ily confident with) and if I get that working can probably get some older k=
it to try it out for real as a PoC to few
people.<o:p></o:p></p <p
class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p <p class=3D"MsoNormal">So, I’ve set
up oVirt before that should be ok=
, I haven’t setup Gluster is there any documents that would help me d=
own this road and make sure I start out using the best
version.<o:p></o:p><=
/p <p
class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Any advice or pointers
would be gratefully received.=
<o:p></o:p></p <p
class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p <p
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