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Hi,
@1. Did you use the hook?
yes, without the hook fstrim would not start,
@2. Where did you see it's the same size? Should be looked at from the =
storage side (assuming, btw, it supports discard!)
I looked at the =E2=80=9Cactual Size=E2=80=9D under Storage
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I don=E2=80=99t know how ovirt handles FC storage and if this will allow =
discard.
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Thx=20
Christian
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Von: Yaniv Kaul [mailto:ykaul@redhat.com]=20
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 31. M=C3=A4rz 2016 12:13
An: Grundmann, Christian <Christian.Grundmann(a)fabasoft.com>
Cc: users(a)ovirt.org
Betreff: Re: [ovirt-users] Reclaim disk space of thin disks
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=20
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On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 1:05 PM, Grundmann, Christian =
<Christian.Grundmann(a)fabasoft.com =
<mailto:Christian.Grundmann@fabasoft.com> > wrote:
Hi,
seems not to work with FC Storage,
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I Zero filled the Disk with dd, removed the file and did a fstrim which =
told me it trimmed the right amount of space,
But the disk Image stays full size.
=20
1. Did you use the hook?
2. Where did you see it's the same size? Should be looked at from the =
storage side (assuming, btw, it supports discard!)
Y.
=20
=20
Thx=20
Christian
=20
Von: Yaniv Kaul [mailto:ykaul@redhat.com <mailto:ykaul@redhat.com> ]=20
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 30. M=C3=A4rz 2016 22:29
An: Grundmann, Christian <Christian.Grundmann(a)fabasoft.com =
<mailto:Christian.Grundmann@fabasoft.com> >
Cc: users(a)ovirt.org <mailto:users@ovirt.org>=20
Betreff: Re: [ovirt-users] Reclaim disk space of thin disks
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=20
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On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 10:04 AM, Grundmann, Christian =
<Christian.Grundmann(a)fabasoft.com =
<mailto:Christian.Grundmann@fabasoft.com> > wrote:
Hi,
is there a way to =E2=80=9Eshrink=E2=80=9C a thin disk image to reclaim =
deleted space like using virt-sparsify?
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Yes, if the underlying file system supports it (NFS, for example, might =
need to be 4.2 and above).
=20
Or can it be done by making a snapshot and clone the VM to a new one?
=20
Another suggestion: use the VDSM hooks for discard ('diskunmap') and run =
'fstrim' from within the guest.=20
Y.
=20
=20
Thanks a lot
Christian
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lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-la=
nguage:EN-US'>Hi,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-la=
nguage:EN-US'>@1. Did you use the
hook?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-la=
nguage:EN-US'>yes, without the hook fstrim would not =
start,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-la=
nguage:EN-US'>@2. Where did you see it's the same size? Should be looked =
at from the storage side (assuming, btw, it supports =
discard!)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-la=
nguage:EN-US'>I looked at the =E2=80=9Cactual Size=E2=80=9D under =
Storage<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-la=
nguage:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-la=
nguage:EN-US'>I don=E2=80=99t know how ovirt handles FC storage and if =
this will allow discard.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-la=
nguage:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-la=
nguage:EN-US'>Thx <o:p></o:p></span></p><p
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-la=
nguage:EN-US'>Christian<o:p></o:p></span></p><p
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-la=
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class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p
=
class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DDE =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Von:</span></=
b><span lang=3DDE =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Yaniv
Kaul =
[mailto:ykaul@redhat.com] <br><b>Gesendet:</b> Donnerstag, 31. M=C3=A4rz
=
2016 12:13<br><b>An:</b> Grundmann, Christian =
<Christian.Grundmann@fabasoft.com><br><b>Cc:</b> =
users@ovirt.org<br><b>Betreff:</b> Re: [ovirt-users] Reclaim disk space
=
of thin disks<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p
class=3DMsoNormal>On Thu, =
Mar 31, 2016 at 1:05 PM, Grundmann, Christian <<a =
href=3D"mailto:Christian.Grundmann@fabasoft.com" =
target=3D"_blank">Christian.Grundmann(a)fabasoft.com</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid =
#CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><div><p
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Hi,</span><o:=
p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>seems not
to =
work with FC Storage,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal
=
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span>=
<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>I Zero =
filled the Disk with dd, removed the file and did a fstrim which told me =
it trimmed the right amount of space,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p
=
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>But the
disk =
Image stays full =
size.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></blockquote><div><p
=
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p
=
class=3DMsoNormal>1. Did you use the
hook?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>2. Where did you see it's the same size? Should be =
looked at from the storage side (assuming, btw, it supports =
discard!)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Y.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><blockquote
=
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><div><p
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span>=
<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Thx =
</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Christian</sp=
an><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span>=
<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span
=
lang=3DDE =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Von:</span></=
b><span lang=3DDE =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Yaniv
Kaul =
[mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:ykaul@redhat.com" =
target=3D"_blank">ykaul(a)redhat.com</a>]
<br><b>Gesendet:</b> Mittwoch, =
30. M=C3=A4rz 2016 22:29<br><b>An:</b> Grundmann, Christian
<<a =
href=3D"mailto:Christian.Grundmann@fabasoft.com" =
target=3D"_blank">Christian.Grundmann@fabasoft.com</a>><br><b>Cc:</b>
=
<a href=3D"mailto:users@ovirt.org" =
target=3D"_blank">users@ovirt.org</a><br><b>Betreff:</b>
Re: =
[ovirt-users] Reclaim disk space of thin =
disks</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><=
/o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><=
/o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><=
/o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>On Wed, Mar =
30, 2016 at 10:04 AM, Grundmann, Christian <<a =
href=3D"mailto:Christian.Grundmann@fabasoft.com" =
target=3D"_blank">Christian.Grundmann(a)fabasoft.com</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid =
#CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5=
.0pt'><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-US>Hi,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal
=
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-US>is there a way to =E2=80=9Eshrink=E2=80=9C a thin disk =
image to reclaim deleted space like using =
virt-sparsify?</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></blockquote><div><p
=
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><=
/o:p
</p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Yes, if the
=
underlying file system supports it (NFS, for example, might need to be =
4.2 and above).<o:p></o:p</p></div><div><p
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><=
/o:p></p></div><blockquote style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid =
#CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5=
.0pt'><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-US>Or can it be done by making a snapshot and clone the VM to =
a new
one?</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></blockquote><div><p
=
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><=
/o:p</p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Another =
suggestion: use the VDSM hooks for discard ('diskunmap') and run =
'fstrim' from within the
guest. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Y.<o:p></o:p=
</p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><=
/o:p></p></div><blockquote style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid =
#CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5=
.0pt'><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-US> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-US>Thanks a lot</span><o:p></o:p></p><p
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'color:#888888'>Christian</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p
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