[Users] Fwd: Re: Memory usage

Hi everybody, would it be possible to add the output of vdsClient getVmStats <affected vm id> from the affected host here and to the bug? Also can we please get the bug number that tracks this issue? I could not find it in BZ. -- Martin Sivák msivak(a)redhat.com Red Hat Czech RHEV-M SLA / Brno, CZ ----- Original Message ----- > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Koen Vanoppen" <vanoppen.koen(a)gmail.com&gt; > > To: users(a)ovirt.org > > Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2014 12:18:24 PM > > Subject: Re: [Users] Memory usage > > > > > > > > We can't turn off the memory balloon option because we are running the > > 3.3.2 > > with the bug of the memory balloon. Thx for the help! > > Which balloon bug? > > > On Feb 13, 2014 10:51 AM, "Doron Fediuck" < dfediuck(a)redhat.com > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "René Koch" < rkoch(a)linuxland.at > > > > To: "Doron Fediuck" < dfediuck(a)redhat.com > > > > Cc: "Koen Vanoppen" < vanoppen.koen(a)gmail.com >, users(a)ovirt.org , > > > "Martin > > > Sivak" < msivak(a)redhat.com > > > > Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2014 11:16:27 AM > > > Subject: Re: [Users] Memory usage > > > > > > On Thu, 2014-02-13 at 03:49 -0500, Doron Fediuck wrote: > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "René Koch" < rkoch(a)linuxland.at > > > > > > To: "Doron Fediuck" < dfediuck(a)redhat.com > > > > > > Cc: "Koen Vanoppen" < vanoppen.koen(a)gmail.com >, users(a)ovirt.org, > > > > > "Martin > > > > > Sivak" < msivak(a)redhat.com > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2014 7:31:47 PM > > > > > Subject: Re: [Users] Memory usage > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 2014-02-12 at 11:22 -0500, Doron Fediuck wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > From: "René Koch" < rkoch(a)linuxland.at > > > > > > > > To: "Koen Vanoppen" < vanoppen.koen(a)gmail.com > > > > > > > > Cc: users(a)ovirt.org > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2014 4:18:37 PM > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Users] Memory usage > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 2014-02-12 at 15:14 +0100, Koen Vanoppen wrote: > > > > > > > > In The GUI, it says it's using 25% of the memory. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I guess it's the real value, right? > > > > > > > The same happened for the memcached vm, someone reported to me - > > > > > > > negative value in REST-API, but correct graph in oVirt webadmin > > > > > > > GUI. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I fear I have no idea how this can happen - so maybe someone else > > > > > > > can > > > > > > > help you troubleshoot this issue. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2014-02-12 15:10 GMT+01:00 Koen Vanoppen < > > > > > > > > vanoppen.koen(a)gmail.com >: > > > > > > > > Thanks for the quick respons, but there is no memcached > > > > > > > > running on that VM. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kind regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2014-02-12 15:06 GMT+01:00 René Koch < rkoch(a)linuxland.at&gt;: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 2014-02-12 at 14:55 +0100, Koen Vanoppen > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When we monitor one of our machines, we noticed > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > there was one vm > > > > > > > > > that was constantly giving a error of memory > > > > > > > > > usage. > > > > > > > > But when we took a > > > > > > > > > look at it, there is actually nothing wrong with > > > > > > > > > it. > > > > > > > > Now we looked > > > > > > > > > furhter then that. We looked at the API of the > > > > > > > > machine and noticed > > > > > > > > > something very strange: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <statistic > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > href="/api/vms/3b9aa245-75ff-42e8-b921-1c9ce61826bf/statistics/b7499508-c1c3-32f0-8174-c1783e57bb08" > > > > > > > > id="b7499508-c1c3-32f0-8174-c1783e57bb08"><name>memory.used</name><description>Memory > > > > > > > > used (agent)</description><values > > > > > > > > type="INTEGER"><value><datum>-944892806</datum></value></values><type>GAUGE</type><unit>BYTES</unit> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's a negative... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you have memcached running in this vm? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I heard about this issue with memcached, but never > > > > > > > > tested memcached in > > > > > > > > my oVirt environment. You get the real usage value > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > memory.used = memory.installed + memory.used > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > René > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What could be the problem? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kind regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > koen > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Guys, > > > > > > these values are usually a result of overcommitment mechanism > > > > > > usage. > > > > > > For example, if KSM is effective, it will free a lot of memory > > > > > > pages, > > > > > > and total-free-committed becomes negative. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot for the information. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This was reported in > > > > > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=977758 > > > > > > and the engine is using memFree reported by vdsm, which is more > > > > > > accurate. > > > > > > > > > > > > The API reports the old version due to backwards compatibility. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just had a look at the bugzilla report and the RHEV documentation > > > > > which says "Current memory in bytes used by the virtual machine.". > > > > > So this means, the reported values are totally useless for monitoring > > > > > memory usage of a virtual machine if KSM is active. I would expect to > > > > > get the memory usage of a virtual machine and not how much memory is > > > > > consumed on the hypervisor (this is pretty useless information for > > > > > me). > > > > > > > > > > Is it planned to report the memory usage in a virtual machine in the > > > > > API > > > > > as well? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > René > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > René, > > > > started digging into this, but it may take some time. > > > > > > > > Note that there are 2 memory usage reports; one for the host, > > > > and another for each VM. > > > > My response is related to the host, while the original question was > > > > for the VM. I still think the root cause is the same (ie- related to > > > > overcommitment; for example the VM may have a balloon inflated), but > > > > would like to properly check and fix if needed. > > > > > > > > > Yes, I know. So my question was if we can add another value for the > > > usage in the vm in addition to the usage of the vm on the host. > > > > > We'll know once we understand the cause- ie is it a bug needs fixing or > > should we indeed add another value > > > > If you have a setup with this issue, try removing the balloon device > > and see if it helps / changes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > In order to make sure we keep track of it, please open a bug with all > > > > the > > > > relevant info. > > > > > > > > > > I'll open a bug for this. > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > Thanks and keep reporting! > > > > Doron > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Users mailing list > > Users(a)ovirt.org > > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users > > > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users > _______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users(a)ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users