Re: [Users] Setup Host Network dialog - actions availability [ux][BZ#984737]

[top posting] Hi René, thanks for the feedback. I will soon send an e-mail summarizing all of the feedback regarding the main issue. In your particular feedback, you have mentioned a couple of potential improvements that are not directly related to the main issue. These are: (1) [IIUC: 'here' == Logical Networks sub-tab in the Hosts main tab] Can you please file a new BZ on that issue? [https://bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi?product=oVirt] (2) currently, the appropriate location for this information is the details-pop-up that is displayed upon hovering on the logical network; however, in case we will decide to get rid of that pop-up, your suggestion above should be taken into consideration, and it would be great if you will file a new BZ on that issue as well. ---- Thanks, Einav ----- Original Message ----- > From: "René Koch (ovido)" <r.koch(a)ovido.at&gt; > To: "Einav Cohen" <ecohen(a)redhat.com&gt; > Cc: "info" <info(a)eldanet.com&gt;, "Eldan Hildesheim" <ehildesh(a)redhat.com&gt;, "users" <users(a)ovirt.org&gt;, jas(a)cs.yorku.ca > Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 4:34:28 AM > Subject: Re: [Users] Setup Host Network dialog - actions availability [ux][BZ#984737] > > On Thu, 2013-08-22 at 13:04 -0400, Einav Cohen wrote: > > Hi, > > > > This is about attempting to address the difficulty of finding the > > edit-action in > > the Setup Host Network dialog, as documented in "Bug 984737 - usability: > > webadmin > > difficulty in assigning client ip, no gateway possible" in bugzilla. > > We have a suggestion from Eldan (see attached > > "HostSetupNetworks-HoverPopUp.png") > > which was described in the BZ (comment #3) and seemed acceptable by the > > reporter > > (comment #4), however IIUC - one of the main pain points described in the > > BZ was > > the fact that the user could not find the option to Edit the connection > > properties > > since he was looking in the wrong place, and needed to hover on the correct > > place, > > in order to find that option. > > So although the idea is somewhat helpful, my concern is that this solution > > is not > > enough (comment #5). > > > > Another proposal from Malini (comment #6) is to add an "actions" drop-down > > menu in > > the form of a small "gear" icon-button - see attached > > "HostSetupNetworks-DropDownMenu.png". > > This proposal addresses my concern, however I have a question about another > > concern > > with this solution: > > would the actions-drop-down menu-items panel be revealed appear upon click > > or upon > > hover? > > > In my opinion this is the better solution but still not enough. Let me > explain why: > > There are 4 reasons (or did I forgot one?) why I want to change the network > configuration: > 1. Add new logical networks > 2. Remove logical networks > 3. Change ip addresses of 1 (or more) logical networks > 4. Configure/change bonding options > > Ad 1 and 2: In the Setup hosts networks dialog the behavior is ok - > improvements should be done when creating new logical networks. > I think neutron integration will improve this... > > Ad 3: > When changing (or adding) an ip address I first have to verify what's the > current ip configuration of this host. > If I don't use dns/static hosts entry I can see the current ip address > of ovirtmgmt host in hosts tab, but for all other networks or when > having hostnames configured I have to go to the "Network Interfaces" > subtab of each host. In this tab I can already see the address I (properly) > want to change or the interface where I want to add a new ip address. > > > Bondings/logical networks should stay in setup host networks and there > should also be a gear icon to edit/remove logical networks like in the > DropDownMenu.png screenshot which reveals when clicking on it. Then you > have the possibility to change the ip config wherever it's easier for you. > > I also vote for removing the tooltip on logical networks and instead display > the ip address (and maybe MTU) below the logical network name. > e.g. > ovirtmgmt (VLAN 1) > IP: 192.168.0.1 > --------- > logical network 1 > --------- > logical network 2 > > As ip addresses will most likely be configured only for ovirtmgmt, display > network and storage network this dialog wouldn't get floated with too many > information... > > Ad 4: Add a gear icon in the same way as for 3, but keep the ability to > change the configuration only in "Setup hosts networks" dialog, no need imho > in "Network Interfaces" subtab... > > > Regards, > René > > > > > > if it will be upon hover, it might seem weird/be conflicted/be somewhat > > confusing > > with the hover functionality that reveals the logical-network details > > pop-up. > > > > if it will be upon click, it means that in order to edit a logical network, > > two > > clicks will be required in order to get to the edit dialog, as opposed to > > one click > > in the current state and in Eldan's suggestion. > > maybe having two clicks in order to get to the edit dialog is acceptable, > > however > > there may be some solutions for that: > > > > one possible solution would be to combine both attached suggestions, i.e. > > the actions > > within the hover pop-up, as well as the actions drop-down menu, however it > > means that > > there will be some redundancy of the actions availability. > > > > another possible solution is to keep only the gear + down-arrow icon (or > > maybe only > > the down-arrow icon), without the actual drop-down menu there, just in > > order to indicate > > that there are some options available in that area, and have Eldan's pop-up > > appear when > > hovering on that icon (or even on the entire logical-network area, as > > happens today with > > the current details pop-up) > > > > thoughts? > > > > ---- > > Regards, > > Einav > > _______________________________________________ > > Users mailing list > > Users(a)ovirt.org > > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users > > >