[Users] oVirt 3.3.2 release

The oVirt development team is very happy to announce the general availability of oVirt 3.3.2 as of December 19th 2013. This release solidifies oVirt as a leading KVM management application and open source alternative to VMware vSphere. oVirt is available now for Fedora 19 and Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6.5 (or similar). This release of oVirt includes 175 bug fixes and the first release of the Backup and Restore API, which enables backup programs to integrate with oVirt. This release also simplifies the Guide Me VM-creation wizard. See the release notes [1] for a list of the new features and bugs fixed. IMPORTANT NOTE: If you're upgrading from a previous version, please update ovirt-release to the latest version (10) and verify you have the correct repositories enabled by running the following commands # yum update ovirt-release # yum repolist enabled before upgrading with the usual procedure. You should see the ovirt-3.3.2 and ovirt-stable repositories listed in the output of the repolist command. [1] http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_3.3.2_release_notes -- Sandro Bonazzola Better technology. Faster innovation. Powered by community collaboration. See how it works at redhat.com

I can't do an update of Engine for RHEL 6. The 3.3.2 packages do not seem to have been pushed here: http://resources.ovirt.org/releases/stable/rpm/EL/6/noarch/ -Bob On 12/19/2013 09:03 AM, Sandro Bonazzola wrote:
The oVirt development team is very happy to announce the general availability of oVirt 3.3.2 as of December 19th 2013. This release solidifies oVirt as a leading KVM management application and open source alternative to VMware vSphere.
oVirt is available now for Fedora 19 and Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6.5 (or similar).
This release of oVirt includes 175 bug fixes and the first release of the Backup and Restore API, which enables backup programs to integrate with oVirt. This release also simplifies the Guide Me VM-creation wizard. See the release notes [1] for a list of the new features and bugs fixed.
IMPORTANT NOTE: If you're upgrading from a previous version, please update ovirt-release to the latest version (10) and verify you have the correct repositories enabled by running the following commands
# yum update ovirt-release # yum repolist enabled
before upgrading with the usual procedure. You should see the ovirt-3.3.2 and ovirt-stable repositories listed in the output of the repolist command.

--=-3dE7IsmtUsDdyfVDGq4h Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Am Freitag, den 20.12.2013, 11:12 -0500 schrieb Bob Doolittle:
I can't do an update of Engine for RHEL 6. =20 The 3.3.2 packages do not seem to have been pushed here: =20 http://resources.ovirt.org/releases/stable/rpm/EL/6/noarch/
Thanks - I observed the same. - fabian
-Bob =20 On 12/19/2013 09:03 AM, Sandro Bonazzola wrote:
The oVirt development team is very happy to announce the general availability of oVirt 3.3.2 as of December 19th 2013. This release solidifies oVirt as a leading KVM management application and open source alternative to VMware vSphere.
oVirt is available now for Fedora 19 and Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6.5 (or similar).
This release of oVirt includes 175 bug fixes and the first release of t= he Backup and Restore API, which enables backup programs to integrate with= oVirt. This release also simplifies the Guide Me VM-creation wizard. See the r= elease notes [1] for a list of the new features and bugs fixed.
IMPORTANT NOTE: If you're upgrading from a previous version, please upd= ate ovirt-release to the latest version (10) and verify you have the correc= t repositories enabled by running the following commands
# yum update ovirt-release # yum repolist enabled
before upgrading with the usual procedure. You should see the ovirt-3.3= .2 and ovirt-stable repositories listed in the output of the repolist command.
=20 _______________________________________________ Arch mailing list Arch@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/arch
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I think the problem may be other than I indicated, however, because I don't see ovirt-engine-3.3.2 in the FC19 stable repo either. Here's the error output of my update command: Error: Package: ovirt-engine-3.3.1-2.el6.noarch (@ovirt-stable) Requires: ovirt-engine-websocket-proxy = 3.3.1-2.el6 Removing: ovirt-engine-websocket-proxy-3.3.1-2.el6.noarch (@ovirt-stable) ovirt-engine-websocket-proxy = 3.3.1-2.el6 Updated By: ovirt-engine-websocket-proxy-3.3.2-1.el6.noarch (ovirt-3.3.2) ovirt-engine-websocket-proxy = 3.3.2-1.el6 Available: ovirt-engine-websocket-proxy-3.3.0-3.el6.noarch (ovirt-stable) ovirt-engine-websocket-proxy = 3.3.0-3.el6 Available: ovirt-engine-websocket-proxy-3.3.0-4.el6.noarch (ovirt-stable) ovirt-engine-websocket-proxy = 3.3.0-4.el6 Available: ovirt-engine-websocket-proxy-3.3.0.1-1.el6.noarch (ovirt-stable) ovirt-engine-websocket-proxy = 3.3.0.1-1.el6 Available: ovirt-engine-websocket-proxy-3.3.1-1.el6.noarch (ovirt-stable) ovirt-engine-websocket-proxy = 3.3.1-1.el6 I have attached my current repo config, after the update of ovirt-release-el6-10-1 I'm not sure why it's not seeing http://resources.ovirt.org/releases/3.3.2/rpm/EL/6/noarch/ovirt-engine-3.3.2... I do see that repository enabled in "yum repolist enabled" output. -Bob On 12/20/2013 11:13 AM, Fabian Deutsch wrote:
Am Freitag, den 20.12.2013, 11:12 -0500 schrieb Bob Doolittle:
I can't do an update of Engine for RHEL 6.
The 3.3.2 packages do not seem to have been pushed here:
http://resources.ovirt.org/releases/stable/rpm/EL/6/noarch/ Thanks - I observed the same.
- fabian
-Bob
On 12/19/2013 09:03 AM, Sandro Bonazzola wrote:
The oVirt development team is very happy to announce the general availability of oVirt 3.3.2 as of December 19th 2013. This release solidifies oVirt as a leading KVM management application and open source alternative to VMware vSphere.
oVirt is available now for Fedora 19 and Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6.5 (or similar).
This release of oVirt includes 175 bug fixes and the first release of the Backup and Restore API, which enables backup programs to integrate with oVirt. This release also simplifies the Guide Me VM-creation wizard. See the release notes [1] for a list of the new features and bugs fixed.
IMPORTANT NOTE: If you're upgrading from a previous version, please update ovirt-release to the latest version (10) and verify you have the correct repositories enabled by running the following commands
# yum update ovirt-release # yum repolist enabled
before upgrading with the usual procedure. You should see the ovirt-3.3.2 and ovirt-stable repositories listed in the output of the repolist command.
_______________________________________________ Arch mailing list Arch@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/arch

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPartTM-000-d79d0da8-d4d0-4e94-a2c0-a9a05077b0ba Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable We are on centos 6.5 and got similar dependency errors but simply replaced = ovirt-release with ovirt-release-el6 in the guide. Afterwards everything wo= rked smoothly. Do not know if it helps Von meinem Xperia=99-Smartphone gesendet Bob Doolittle <bob@doolittle.us.com> schrieb: I think the problem may be other than I indicated, however, because I don't see ovirt-engine-3.3.2 in the FC19 stable repo either. Here's the error output of my update command: Error: Package: ovirt-engine-3.3.1-2.el6.noarch (@ovirt-stable) Requires: ovirt-engine-websocket-proxy =3D 3.3.1-2.el6 Removing: ovirt-engine-websocket-proxy-3.3.1-2.el6.noarch (@ovirt-stable) ovirt-engine-websocket-proxy =3D 3.3.1-2.el6 Updated By: ovirt-engine-websocket-proxy-3.3.2-1.el6.noarch (ovirt-3.3.2) ovirt-engine-websocket-proxy =3D 3.3.2-1.el6 Available: ovirt-engine-websocket-proxy-3.3.0-3.el6.noarch (ovirt-stable) ovirt-engine-websocket-proxy =3D 3.3.0-3.el6 Available: ovirt-engine-websocket-proxy-3.3.0-4.el6.noarch (ovirt-stable) ovirt-engine-websocket-proxy =3D 3.3.0-4.el6 Available: ovirt-engine-websocket-proxy-3.3.0.1-1.el6.noarch (ovirt-stable) ovirt-engine-websocket-proxy =3D 3.3.0.1-1.el6 Available: ovirt-engine-websocket-proxy-3.3.1-1.el6.noarch (ovirt-stable) ovirt-engine-websocket-proxy =3D 3.3.1-1.el6 I have attached my current repo config, after the update of ovirt-release-el6-10-1 I'm not sure why it's not seeing http://resources.ovirt.org/releases/3.3.2/rpm/EL/6/noarch/ovirt-engine-3.3.= 2-1.el6.noarch.rpm I do see that repository enabled in "yum repolist enabled" output. -Bob On 12/20/2013 11:13 AM, Fabian Deutsch wrote:
Am Freitag, den 20.12.2013, 11:12 -0500 schrieb Bob Doolittle:
I can't do an update of Engine for RHEL 6.
The 3.3.2 packages do not seem to have been pushed here:
http://resources.ovirt.org/releases/stable/rpm/EL/6/noarch/ Thanks - I observed the same.
- fabian
-Bob
On 12/19/2013 09:03 AM, Sandro Bonazzola wrote:
The oVirt development team is very happy to announce the general availability of oVirt 3.3.2 as of December 19th 2013. This release solidifies oVirt as a leading KVM management application and open source alternative to VMware vSphere.
oVirt is available now for Fedora 19 and Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6.5 (or similar).
This release of oVirt includes 175 bug fixes and the first release of t= he Backup and Restore API, which enables backup programs to integrate with= oVirt. This release also simplifies the Guide Me VM-creation wizard. See the r= elease notes [1] for a list of the new features and bugs fixed.
IMPORTANT NOTE: If you're upgrading from a previous version, please upd= ate ovirt-release to the latest version (10) and verify you have the correc= t repositories enabled by running the following commands
# yum update ovirt-release # yum repolist enabled
before upgrading with the usual procedure. You should see the ovirt-3.3= .2 and ovirt-stable repositories listed in the output of the repolist command.
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Thanks. I considered that but I've been hesitant to try manual workarounds in case my environment proves helpful for troubleshooting or verifying a solution. Clearly the community needs a real fix, although the lack of response to this issue surprised me. Must be the holidays :-) -Bob On Dec 21, 2013 4:55 AM, "Markus Stockhausen" <stockhausen@collogia.de> wrote:
We are on centos 6.5 and got similar dependency errors but simply replaced ovirt-release with ovirt-release-el6 in the guide. Afterwards everything worked smoothly.
Do not know if it helps
Von meinem Xperia™-Smartphone gesendet
Bob Doolittle <bob@doolittle.us.com> schrieb:
I think the problem may be other than I indicated, however, because I don't see ovirt-engine-3.3.2 in the FC19 stable repo either. Here's the error output of my update command:
Error: Package: ovirt-engine-3.3.1-2.el6.noarch (@ovirt-stable) Requires: ovirt-engine-websocket-proxy = 3.3.1-2.el6 Removing: ovirt-engine-websocket-proxy-3.3.1-2.el6.noarch (@ovirt-stable) ovirt-engine-websocket-proxy = 3.3.1-2.el6 Updated By: ovirt-engine-websocket-proxy-3.3.2-1.el6.noarch (ovirt-3.3.2) ovirt-engine-websocket-proxy = 3.3.2-1.el6 Available: ovirt-engine-websocket-proxy-3.3.0-3.el6.noarch (ovirt-stable) ovirt-engine-websocket-proxy = 3.3.0-3.el6 Available: ovirt-engine-websocket-proxy-3.3.0-4.el6.noarch (ovirt-stable) ovirt-engine-websocket-proxy = 3.3.0-4.el6 Available: ovirt-engine-websocket-proxy-3.3.0.1-1.el6.noarch (ovirt-stable) ovirt-engine-websocket-proxy = 3.3.0.1-1.el6 Available: ovirt-engine-websocket-proxy-3.3.1-1.el6.noarch (ovirt-stable) ovirt-engine-websocket-proxy = 3.3.1-1.el6
I have attached my current repo config, after the update of ovirt-release-el6-10-1
I'm not sure why it's not seeing
http://resources.ovirt.org/releases/3.3.2/rpm/EL/6/noarch/ovirt-engine-3.3.2...
I do see that repository enabled in "yum repolist enabled" output.
-Bob
Am Freitag, den 20.12.2013, 11:12 -0500 schrieb Bob Doolittle:
I can't do an update of Engine for RHEL 6.
The 3.3.2 packages do not seem to have been pushed here:
http://resources.ovirt.org/releases/stable/rpm/EL/6/noarch/ Thanks - I observed the same.
- fabian
-Bob
On 12/19/2013 09:03 AM, Sandro Bonazzola wrote:
The oVirt development team is very happy to announce the general availability of oVirt 3.3.2 as of December 19th 2013. This release solidifies oVirt as a leading KVM management application and open source alternative to VMware vSphere.
oVirt is available now for Fedora 19 and Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6.5 (or similar).
This release of oVirt includes 175 bug fixes and the first release of
On 12/20/2013 11:13 AM, Fabian Deutsch wrote: the
Backup and Restore API, which enables backup programs to integrate with oVirt. This release also simplifies the Guide Me VM-creation wizard. See the release notes [1] for a list of the new features and bugs fixed.
IMPORTANT NOTE: If you're upgrading from a previous version, please update ovirt-release to the latest version (10) and verify you have the correct repositories enabled by running the following commands
# yum update ovirt-release # yum repolist enabled
before upgrading with the usual procedure. You should see the ovirt-3.3.2 and ovirt-stable repositories listed in the output of the repolist command.
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Il 20/12/2013 17:23, Bob Doolittle ha scritto:
I think the problem may be other than I indicated, however, because I don't see ovirt-engine-3.3.2 in the FC19 stable repo either. Here's the error output of my update command:
Error: Package: ovirt-engine-3.3.1-2.el6.noarch (@ovirt-stable) Requires: ovirt-engine-websocket-proxy = 3.3.1-2.el6 Removing: ovirt-engine-websocket-proxy-3.3.1-2.el6.noarch (@ovirt-stable) ovirt-engine-websocket-proxy = 3.3.1-2.el6 Updated By: ovirt-engine-websocket-proxy-3.3.2-1.el6.noarch (ovirt-3.3.2) ovirt-engine-websocket-proxy = 3.3.2-1.el6 Available: ovirt-engine-websocket-proxy-3.3.0-3.el6.noarch (ovirt-stable) ovirt-engine-websocket-proxy = 3.3.0-3.el6 Available: ovirt-engine-websocket-proxy-3.3.0-4.el6.noarch (ovirt-stable) ovirt-engine-websocket-proxy = 3.3.0-4.el6 Available: ovirt-engine-websocket-proxy-3.3.0.1-1.el6.noarch (ovirt-stable) ovirt-engine-websocket-proxy = 3.3.0.1-1.el6 Available: ovirt-engine-websocket-proxy-3.3.1-1.el6.noarch (ovirt-stable) ovirt-engine-websocket-proxy = 3.3.1-1.el6
This is a bug in ovirt-engine-3.3.1 dependencies fixed in 3.3.2 (Bug 1033629 - Unable to run regular yum update due to implicit (undeclared) version lock on rhevm-websocket-proxy ) please follow upgrade path as in release notes: # yum update ovirt-release # yum repolist enabled # yum update ovirt-engine-setup # engine-setup
I have attached my current repo config, after the update of ovirt-release-el6-10-1
I'm not sure why it's not seeing http://resources.ovirt.org/releases/3.3.2/rpm/EL/6/noarch/ovirt-engine-3.3.2...
I do see that repository enabled in "yum repolist enabled" output.
-Bob
On 12/20/2013 11:13 AM, Fabian Deutsch wrote:
Am Freitag, den 20.12.2013, 11:12 -0500 schrieb Bob Doolittle:
I can't do an update of Engine for RHEL 6.
The 3.3.2 packages do not seem to have been pushed here:
http://resources.ovirt.org/releases/stable/rpm/EL/6/noarch/ Thanks - I observed the same.
- fabian
-Bob
On 12/19/2013 09:03 AM, Sandro Bonazzola wrote:
The oVirt development team is very happy to announce the general availability of oVirt 3.3.2 as of December 19th 2013. This release solidifies oVirt as a leading KVM management application and open source alternative to VMware vSphere.
oVirt is available now for Fedora 19 and Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6.5 (or similar).
This release of oVirt includes 175 bug fixes and the first release of the Backup and Restore API, which enables backup programs to integrate with oVirt. This release also simplifies the Guide Me VM-creation wizard. See the release notes [1] for a list of the new features and bugs fixed.
IMPORTANT NOTE: If you're upgrading from a previous version, please update ovirt-release to the latest version (10) and verify you have the correct repositories enabled by running the following commands
# yum update ovirt-release # yum repolist enabled
before upgrading with the usual procedure. You should see the ovirt-3.3.2 and ovirt-stable repositories listed in the output of the repolist command.
_______________________________________________ Arch mailing list Arch@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/arch
-- Sandro Bonazzola Better technology. Faster innovation. Powered by community collaboration. See how it works at redhat.com

On 12/23/13 01:56, Sandro Bonazzola wrote:
I think the problem may be other than I indicated, however, because I don't see ovirt-engine-3.3.2 in the FC19 stable repo either. Here's the error output of my update command:
Error: Package: ovirt-engine-3.3.1-2.el6.noarch (@ovirt-stable) Requires: ovirt-engine-websocket-proxy = 3.3.1-2.el6 Removing: ovirt-engine-websocket-proxy-3.3.1-2.el6.noarch (@ovirt-stable) ovirt-engine-websocket-proxy = 3.3.1-2.el6 Updated By: ovirt-engine-websocket-proxy-3.3.2-1.el6.noarch (ovirt-3.3.2) ovirt-engine-websocket-proxy = 3.3.2-1.el6 Available: ovirt-engine-websocket-proxy-3.3.0-3.el6.noarch (ovirt-stable) ovirt-engine-websocket-proxy = 3.3.0-3.el6 Available: ovirt-engine-websocket-proxy-3.3.0-4.el6.noarch (ovirt-stable) ovirt-engine-websocket-proxy = 3.3.0-4.el6 Available: ovirt-engine-websocket-proxy-3.3.0.1-1.el6.noarch (ovirt-stable) ovirt-engine-websocket-proxy = 3.3.0.1-1.el6 Available: ovirt-engine-websocket-proxy-3.3.1-1.el6.noarch (ovirt-stable) ovirt-engine-websocket-proxy = 3.3.1-1.el6 This is a bug in ovirt-engine-3.3.1 dependencies fixed in 3.3.2 (Bug 1033629 - Unable to run regular yum update due to implicit (undeclared) version lock on rhevm-websocket-proxy )
Il 20/12/2013 17:23, Bob Doolittle ha scritto: please follow upgrade path as in release notes:
# yum update ovirt-release # yum repolist enabled # yum update ovirt-engine-setup # engine-setup
This did the trick. Thanks Sandro. -Bob
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