Upgrade from 3.6 to 4.1

I am currently running oVirt 3.6 on a physical server using hosted engine environment. I have one server since it's a lab setup. The storage is on a Synology 3615xs iSCSI LUN so that's where the vms are. I plan to upgrade to 4.1 and need to check to make sure I understand the procedure. I've read the oVirt 4.1 Release Notes and they leave some questions. First they say I can simply install the 4.1 release repo update all the ovirt-*-setup* and then run engine-setup. 1. I assume this is on the engine VM running on the host physical box. 2. What does engine-setup do. Does it know what I have and simply update or do I have to go through setup again. 3. Then do I go to the host and update all the ovirt stuff? However, they then say for oVirt Hosted Engine follow a link for upgrading which takes me to a Not Found :( page but did have a link back to the release notes which link to the Not Found which.... So what do I need to know about upgrading a hosted engine setup that there are no directions for. Are there some gotchas? I thought that the release notes said I just had to upgrade the engine and then the host. Given that my VMs are on iSCSI what happens if things go bad and I have to start from scratch. Can I import the VMs created under 3.6 into 4.1 or do I have to do something else like copy them somewhere for backup. Any other hints and tips are appreciated. Thanks.

On 23 Mar 2017, at 20:09, Brett Holcomb <biholcomb@l1049h.com> wrote: =20 I am currently running oVirt 3.6 on a physical server using hosted = engine environment. I have one server since it's a lab setup. The = storage is on a Synology 3615xs iSCSI LUN so that's where the vms are. = I plan to upgrade to 4.1 and need to check to make sure I understand the =
=20 First they say I can simply install the 4.1 release repo update all =
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=20 1. I assume this is on the engine VM running on the host physical box.
Yes, inside the VM. But first, follow the guide below and make sure = engine is in global maintenance mode.=20
=20 2. What does engine-setup do. Does it know what I have and simply = update or do I have to go through setup again.
You don=E2=80=99t have to setup from scratch.=20
=20 3. Then do I go to the host and update all the ovirt stuff?
=20 However, they then say for oVirt Hosted Engine follow a link for = upgrading which takes me to a Not Found :( page but did have a link back = to the release notes which link to the Not Found which.... So what do I = need to know about upgrading a hosted engine setup that there are no =
Yes, first putting host in local maintenance mode and removing global = maintenance mode from engine.=20 directions for. Are there some gotchas? I thought that the release = notes said I just had to upgrade the engine and then the host. @ovirt, can this be fixed ? It=E2=80=99s quite annoying indeed. Meanwhile, I usually follow the linke from 4.0.0 release notes which is = not 404.=20 = https://www.ovirt.org/documentation/how-to/hosted-engine/#upgrade-hosted-e= ngine = <https://www.ovirt.org/documentation/how-to/hosted-engine/#upgrade-hosted-= engine>
=20 Given that my VMs are on iSCSI what happens if things go bad and I = have to start from scratch. Can I import the VMs created under 3.6 into = 4.1 or do I have to do something else like copy them somewhere for = backup.
It might be good to shutdown the VMs and do an export if you have a = storage domain for that. Just to be 100 % safe. In any case, during the upgrade, since the host is in maintenance, all = VMs have to be OFF.
=20 Any other hints and tips are appreciated.
Don=E2=80=99t have iSCSI so can=E2=80=99t help much with that. I=E2=80=99m just a regular user who failed many times :)
=20 Thanks. =20 _______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
--Apple-Mail=_1E6A5F3B-0D66-4696-B59D-B368422CE60E Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 <html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html = charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; = -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" = class=3D""><br class=3D""><div><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div = class=3D"">On 23 Mar 2017, at 20:09, Brett Holcomb <<a = href=3D"mailto:biholcomb@l1049h.com" = class=3D"">biholcomb@l1049h.com</a>> wrote:</div><br = class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div class=3D"">I am = currently running oVirt 3.6 on a physical server using hosted engine = environment. I have one server since it's a lab setup. The = storage is on a Synology 3615xs iSCSI LUN so that's where the vms are. = I plan to upgrade to 4.1 and need to check to make sure I = understand the procedure. I've read the oVirt 4.1 Release Notes = and they leave some questions.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">First they = say I can simply install the 4.1 release repo update all the = ovirt-*-setup* and then run engine-setup.<br = class=3D""></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=3D""></div><div>I = don=E2=80=99t know for sure, but I would first go to latest 4.0 and then = to 4.1 as I=E2=80=99m not sure they test upgrades from 3.6 to 4.1 = directly. </div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" = class=3D""><div class=3D""><div class=3D""><br class=3D"">1. I assume = this is on the engine VM running on the host physical box.<br = class=3D""></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=3D""></div><div>Yes, = inside the VM. But first, follow the guide below and make sure engine is = in global maintenance mode. </div><br class=3D""><blockquote = type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D""><div class=3D""><br class=3D"">2.= What does engine-setup do. Does it know what I have and = simply update or do I have to go through setup again.<br = class=3D""></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=3D""></div><div>You = don=E2=80=99t have to setup from scratch. </div><br = class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D""><div = class=3D""><br class=3D"">3. Then do I go to the host and update = all the ovirt stuff?<br class=3D""></div></div></blockquote><div><br = class=3D""></div><div>Yes, first putting host in local maintenance mode = and removing global maintenance mode from engine. </div><br = class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D""><div = class=3D""><br class=3D"">However, they then say for oVirt Hosted Engine = follow a link for upgrading which takes me to a Not Found :( page but = did have a link back to the release notes which link to the Not Found = which.... So what do I need to know about upgrading a hosted = engine setup that there are no directions for. Are there some = gotchas? I thought that the release notes said I just had to = upgrade the engine and then the host.<br = class=3D""></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=3D""></div><div>@ovirt,= can this be fixed ? It=E2=80=99s quite annoying indeed.</div><div><br = class=3D""></div><div>Meanwhile, I usually follow the linke from 4.0.0 = release notes which is not 404. </div><div><br = class=3D""></div><div><a = href=3D"https://www.ovirt.org/documentation/how-to/hosted-engine/#upgrade-= hosted-engine" = class=3D"">https://www.ovirt.org/documentation/how-to/hosted-engine/#upgra= de-hosted-engine</a></div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" = class=3D""><div class=3D""><div class=3D""><br class=3D"">Given that my = VMs are on iSCSI what happens if things go bad and I have to start from = scratch. Can I import the VMs created under 3.6 into 4.1 or do I = have to do something else like copy them somewhere for backup.<br = class=3D""></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=3D""></div><div>It = might be good to shutdown the VMs and do an export if you have a storage = domain for that. Just to be 100 % safe.</div><div>In any case, during = the upgrade, since the host is in maintenance, all VMs have to be = OFF.</div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div = class=3D""><div class=3D""><br class=3D"">Any other hints and tips are = appreciated.<br class=3D""></div></div></blockquote><div><br = class=3D""></div><div>Don=E2=80=99t have iSCSI so can=E2=80=99t help = much with that.</div><div>I=E2=80=99m just a regular user who failed = many times :)</div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" = class=3D""><div class=3D""><div class=3D""><br class=3D"">Thanks.<br = class=3D""><br = class=3D"">_______________________________________________<br = class=3D"">Users mailing list<br class=3D""><a = href=3D"mailto:Users@ovirt.org" class=3D"">Users@ovirt.org</a><br = class=3D"">http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users<br = class=3D""></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=3D""></body></html>= --Apple-Mail=_1E6A5F3B-0D66-4696-B59D-B368422CE60E-- --Apple-Mail=_79208A1C-FED4-4A1F-A42D-A0E4FCCCB67C Content-Disposition: attachment; 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Before upgrade make shure that epel is disabled, there are some conflicts in collectd package. On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 11:51 AM, Christophe TREFOIS < christophe.trefois@uni.lu> wrote:
On 23 Mar 2017, at 20:09, Brett Holcomb <biholcomb@l1049h.com> wrote:
I am currently running oVirt 3.6 on a physical server using hosted engine environment. I have one server since it's a lab setup. The storage is on a Synology 3615xs iSCSI LUN so that's where the vms are. I plan to upgrade to 4.1 and need to check to make sure I understand the procedure. I've read the oVirt 4.1 Release Notes and they leave some questions.
First they say I can simply install the 4.1 release repo update all the ovirt-*-setup* and then run engine-setup.
I don’t know for sure, but I would first go to latest 4.0 and then to 4.1 as I’m not sure they test upgrades from 3.6 to 4.1 directly.
1. I assume this is on the engine VM running on the host physical box.
Yes, inside the VM. But first, follow the guide below and make sure engine is in global maintenance mode.
2. What does engine-setup do. Does it know what I have and simply update or do I have to go through setup again.
You don’t have to setup from scratch.
3. Then do I go to the host and update all the ovirt stuff?
Yes, first putting host in local maintenance mode and removing global maintenance mode from engine.
However, they then say for oVirt Hosted Engine follow a link for upgrading which takes me to a Not Found :( page but did have a link back to the release notes which link to the Not Found which.... So what do I need to know about upgrading a hosted engine setup that there are no directions for. Are there some gotchas? I thought that the release notes said I just had to upgrade the engine and then the host.
@ovirt, can this be fixed ? It’s quite annoying indeed.
Meanwhile, I usually follow the linke from 4.0.0 release notes which is not 404.
https://www.ovirt.org/documentation/how-to/hosted- engine/#upgrade-hosted-engine
Given that my VMs are on iSCSI what happens if things go bad and I have to start from scratch. Can I import the VMs created under 3.6 into 4.1 or do I have to do something else like copy them somewhere for backup.
It might be good to shutdown the VMs and do an export if you have a storage domain for that. Just to be 100 % safe. In any case, during the upgrade, since the host is in maintenance, all VMs have to be OFF.
Any other hints and tips are appreciated.
Don’t have iSCSI so can’t help much with that. I’m just a regular user who failed many times :)
Thanks.
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