And the missing repository to the host before you perform the host deploy. ----- Original Message -----

From: suporte@logicworks.pt To: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl@redhat.com> Cc: Users@ovirt.org Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 8:06:17 PM Subject: Re: [Users] Package installation error

Yes i got it, but the installation is automatically. What can I do?

thanks Jose

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De: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl@redhat.com> Para: suporte@logicworks.pt Cc: Users@ovirt.org Enviadas: Segunda-feira, 18 de Março de 2013 17:44:12 Assunto: Re: [Users] Package installation error

The error is self explainable... the glusterfs available to yum is older than what requires. You probably need some testing repository.

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From: suporte@logicworks.pt To: Users@ovirt.org Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 7:40:56 PM Subject: [Users] Package installation error

Today I tried to intall another host and get this error during the installation from the engine 3.2.1. The host is a fedora 18

Failed to execute stage 'Package installation': [u'vdsm-gluster-4.10.3-10.fc18.noarch requires glusterfs >= 3.4.0'].

Yum [u'vdsm-gluster-4.10.3-10.fc18.noarch requires glusterfs >= 3.4.0'].

Regards

Jose

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Hi, On 03/18/2013 06:44 PM, Alon Bar-Lev wrote:

The error is self explainable... the glusterfs available to yum is older than what requires. You probably need some testing repository.

I still don't understand why installing a host tries to install vdsm-gluster - is there a dependency chain gone wrong? That package should only be necesary if you're using the oVirt management interface for Gluster, not a normal node install. Or am I misunderstanding what Jose wants to do? Cheers, Dave.

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From: suporte@logicworks.pt To: Users@ovirt.org Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 7:40:56 PM Subject: [Users] Package installation error

Today I tried to intall another host and get this error during the installation from the engine 3.2.1. The host is a fedora 18

Failed to execute stage 'Package installation': [u'vdsm-gluster-4.10.3-10.fc18.noarch requires glusterfs >= 3.4.0'].

Yum [u'vdsm-gluster-4.10.3-10.fc18.noarch requires glusterfs >= 3.4.0'].

Regards

Jose

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Hi Alon, On 03/19/2013 07:56 AM, Alon Bar-Lev wrote:

Obviously something is wrong with the dependency, not sure which version of gluster is required and what is available in fedora.

The root cause of this is that setup defaults no to use both gluster and virt for the default domain, while in the past it used to default to virt. So if you do not wish to use gluster, please do not select both at installation, or turn of the gluster from the cluster after installation.

I think the wording here is confusing. To an oVirt user, "using Gluster" means having a Gluster storage domain as shared storage. In the context of the Gluster management console, oVirt does not use Gluster, Gluster uses oVirt. Would it be possible to review the set-up process to ensure that we are not inadvertently sending users who just want to use a stable version of Gluster as storage in the wrong direction? This comes up frequently, and seems to be confusing people. Thanks, Dave. -- Dave Neary - Community Action and Impact Open Source and Standards, Red Hat - http://community.redhat.com Ph: +33 9 50 71 55 62 / Cell: +33 6 77 01 92 13

On 19-3-2013 8:16, Alon Bar-Lev wrote:

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From: "Dave Neary" <dneary@redhat.com> To: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl@redhat.com> Cc: users@ovirt.org Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 9:02:13 AM Subject: Re: [Users] Package installation error

Hi Alon,

On 03/19/2013 07:56 AM, Alon Bar-Lev wrote:

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Obviously something is wrong with the dependency, not sure which version of gluster is required and what is available in fedora.

The root cause of this is that setup defaults no to use both gluster and virt for the default domain, while in the past it used to default to virt. So if you do not wish to use gluster, please do not select both at installation, or turn of the gluster from the cluster after installation. I think the wording here is confusing.

To an oVirt user, "using Gluster" means having a Gluster storage domain as shared storage.

In the context of the Gluster management console, oVirt does not use Gluster, Gluster uses oVirt.

Would it be possible to review the set-up process to ensure that we are not inadvertently sending users who just want to use a stable version of Gluster as storage in the wrong direction? This comes up frequently, and seems to be confusing people.

Thanks, Dave. Now I am confused.... Do you or don't you need vdsm-gluster on your system?

If the gluster checkbox is set on the cluster then you'll need the gluster packages. If you don't use gluster but said so (both=virt+gluster) during engine-setup then the checkbox will be checked and you'll need the packages. The bigger problem ofcourse is that oVirt-3.2.1 requires gluster-3.4.0 which isn't in the standard repos at the moment. Joop -- irc: jvandewege

Hi, On 03/19/2013 08:16 AM, Alon Bar-Lev wrote:

Now I am confused.... Do you or don't you need vdsm-gluster on your system?

Allow me to clarify. There have been several messages from users since the oVirt 3.2 release asking why they need Gluster 3.4 pre-releases to run oVirt. My understanding is that you don't need Gluster 3.4 unless you want to manage a Gluster cluster with oVirt. So my question is: are we sure that we are not leading users wrong, and confusing them during the installation & set-up process? Thanks, Dave. -- Dave Neary - Community Action and Impact Open Source and Standards, Red Hat - http://community.redhat.com Ph: +33 9 50 71 55 62 / Cell: +33 6 77 01 92 13

------=_Part_252_270319.1363686215399 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That is right : "The bigger problem of course is that oVirt-3.2.1 requires = gluster-3.4.0=20 which isn't in the standard repos at the moment. "=20 I want to use gluster, because, in my understanding, glusterfs allow me to = share a storage (2 or more) between 2 or more hosts, like a virtual disk, a= nd this is essential for live migration or HA.=20 I get from the gluster site, related to Gluster 3.4 alpha and QEMU 1.4.0 : = "... new QEMU/GlusterFS native integration leveraging libgfapi. For those o= f you wondering what that means, in short, there=E2=80=99s no need for FUSE= anymore and QEMU leverages GlusterFS natively on the back end. Awesome."= =20 This could be an advantage? It's not only required to manage gluster cluste= rs, but as a better integration.=20 Let me know if I wrote something wrong.=20 Now things seems to be working, what I did was create a file in the host: /= etc/yum.repos.d/stage.repo=20 [glusterfs]=20 name=3DGlusterFS=20 baseurl=3Dhttp://bits.gluster.org/pub/gluster/glusterfs/stage/=20 gpgcheck=3D1=20 gpgkey=3Dfile:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-Gluster=20 because of the self signed I get some errors, so I did:=20 yum install --nogpgcheck glusterfs*=20 yum install --nogpgcheck glusterfs-server*=20 yum install --nogpgcheck glusterfs-rdma*=20 And that's it everything works.=20 The installation should be more nicely=20 Thanks=20 Jose=20 ----- Mensagem original ----- De: "Sahina Bose" <sabose@redhat.com>=20 Para: "Dave Neary" <dneary@redhat.com>=20 Cc: users@ovirt.org=20 Enviadas: Ter=C3=A7a-feira, 19 de Mar=C3=A7o de 2013 9:24:23=20 Assunto: Re: [Users] Package installation error=20 You are right - Gluster 3.4 is only required to manage gluster clusters.=20 Currently the question asked at setup is this :=20 "The engine can be configured to present the UI in three different=20 application modes. virt [Manage virtualization only], gluster [Manage=20 gluster storage only],=20 and both [Manage virtualization as well as gluster storage]" where both=20 is the default.=20 If this is confusing to the user, we can change this message. Suggestions?= =20 On 03/19/2013 01:41 PM, Dave Neary wrote:=20

Hi,=20 =20 On 03/19/2013 08:16 AM, Alon Bar-Lev wrote:=20

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Now I am confused....=20 Do you or don't you need vdsm-gluster on your system?=20 =20 Allow me to clarify.=20 =20 There have been several messages from users since the oVirt 3.2=20 release asking why they need Gluster 3.4 pre-releases to run oVirt.=20 =20 My understanding is that you don't need Gluster 3.4 unless you want to=20 manage a Gluster cluster with oVirt.=20 =20 So my question is: are we sure that we are not leading users wrong,=20 and confusing them during the installation & set-up process?=20 =20 Thanks,=20 Dave.=20 =20

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glusterfs-server*</span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"" lang=3D"EN-US">yum install --nogpgcheck glusterfs-rdma*</span></p> <br><br>And that's it everything works.<br><br>The installation should be m= ore nicely<br><br>Thanks<br>Jose<br><br><br><br><br><hr id=3D"zwchr"><div s= tyle=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; text-= decoration: none; font-family: Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;= "><b>De: </b>"Sahina Bose" <sabose@redhat.com><br><b>Para: </b>"Dave = Neary" <dneary@redhat.com><br><b>Cc: </b>users@ovirt.org<br><b>Enviad= as: </b>Ter=C3=A7a-feira, 19 de Mar=C3=A7o de 2013 9:24:23<br><b>Assunto: <= /b>Re: [Users] Package installation error<br><br>You are right - Gluster 3.= 4 is only required to manage gluster clusters.<br><br>Currently the questio= n asked at setup is this :<br><br>"The engine can be configured to present = the UI in three different <br>application modes. virt [Manage virtualizatio= n only], gluster [Manage <br>gluster storage only],<br>and both [Manage vir= tualization as well as gluster storage]" where both <br>is the default.<br>= <br>If this is confusing to the user, we can change this message. Suggestio= ns?<br><br><br>On 03/19/2013 01:41 PM, Dave Neary wrote:<br>> Hi,<br>>= ;<br>> On 03/19/2013 08:16 AM, Alon Bar-Lev wrote:<br>>> Now I am = confused....<br>>> Do you or don't you need vdsm-gluster on your syst= em?<br>><br>> Allow me to clarify.<br>><br>> There have been se= veral messages from users since the oVirt 3.2 <br>> release asking why t= hey need Gluster 3.4 pre-releases to run oVirt.<br>><br>> My understa= nding is that you don't need Gluster 3.4 unless you want to <br>> manage= a Gluster cluster with oVirt.<br>><br>> So my question is: are we su= re that we are not leading users wrong, <br>> and confusing them during = the installation & set-up process?<br>><br>> Thanks,<br>> Dave= .<br>><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Users m= ailing list<br>Users@ovirt.org<br>http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/u= sers<br></div><br></div></body></html> ------=_Part_252_270319.1363686215399--

Simon? ----- Original Message -----

From: "Dave Neary" <dneary@redhat.com> To: "Sahina Bose" <sabose@redhat.com> Cc: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl@redhat.com>, users@ovirt.org Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 6:34:56 PM Subject: Re: [Users] Package installation error

Hi,

On 03/19/2013 05:24 AM, Sahina Bose wrote:

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You are right - Gluster 3.4 is only required to manage gluster clusters.

Currently the question asked at setup is this :

"The engine can be configured to present the UI in three different application modes. virt [Manage virtualization only], gluster [Manage gluster storage only], and both [Manage virtualization as well as gluster storage]" where both is the default.

If this is confusing to the user, we can change this message. Suggestions?

I would either:

(a) put "Virt" as the default, or (b) remove this question entirely - if someone is installing oVirt, assume they want to manage virt. If someone is installing Gluster, have an option during the Gluster install to have the oVirt management console.

If someone wants to manage both their Gluster bricks and their virt with oVirt, I would make that a post-install option to oVirt - perhaps with an extra package to install (which would depend on the later version of Gluster).

Cheers, Dave.

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On 03/19/2013 01:41 PM, Dave Neary wrote:

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Hi,

On 03/19/2013 08:16 AM, Alon Bar-Lev wrote:

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Now I am confused.... Do you or don't you need vdsm-gluster on your system?

Allow me to clarify.

There have been several messages from users since the oVirt 3.2 release asking why they need Gluster 3.4 pre-releases to run oVirt.

My understanding is that you don't need Gluster 3.4 unless you want to manage a Gluster cluster with oVirt.

So my question is: are we sure that we are not leading users wrong, and confusing them during the installation & set-up process?

Thanks, Dave.

-- Dave Neary - Community Action and Impact Open Source and Standards, Red Hat - http://community.redhat.com Ph: +33 9 50 71 55 62 / Cell: +33 6 77 01 92 13

----- Original Message -----

From: "Simon Grinberg" <simon@redhat.com> To: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl@redhat.com> Cc: users@ovirt.org, "Sahina Bose" <sabose@redhat.com>, "Dave Neary" <dneary@redhat.com> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 7:40:17 PM Subject: Re: [Users] Package installation error

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From: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl@redhat.com> To: "Dave Neary" <dneary@redhat.com> Cc: users@ovirt.org, "Sahina Bose" <sabose@redhat.com>, "Simon Grinberg" <simon@redhat.com> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 6:35:56 PM Subject: Re: [Users] Package installation error

Simon?

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From: "Dave Neary" <dneary@redhat.com> To: "Sahina Bose" <sabose@redhat.com> Cc: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl@redhat.com>, users@ovirt.org Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 6:34:56 PM Subject: Re: [Users] Package installation error

Hi,

On 03/19/2013 05:24 AM, Sahina Bose wrote:

...

You are right - Gluster 3.4 is only required to manage gluster clusters.

Currently the question asked at setup is this :

"The engine can be configured to present the UI in three different application modes. virt [Manage virtualization only], gluster [Manage gluster storage only], and both [Manage virtualization as well as gluster storage]" where both is the default.

If this is confusing to the user, we can change this message. Suggestions?

I would either:

(a) put "Virt" as the default, or

I would go for this one, this keeps backwards compatibility. Is there an easy method to change this configuration later?

Yes, changing the cluster settings.

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(b) remove this question entirely - if someone is installing oVirt, assume they want to manage virt. If someone is installing Gluster, have an option during the Gluster install to have the oVirt management console.

We do want people to get exposed to the Gluster option.

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If someone wants to manage both their Gluster bricks and their virt with oVirt, I would make that a post-install option to oVirt - perhaps with an extra package to install (which would depend on the later version of Gluster).

Cheers, Dave.

...

On 03/19/2013 01:41 PM, Dave Neary wrote:

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Hi,

On 03/19/2013 08:16 AM, Alon Bar-Lev wrote:

...

Now I am confused.... Do you or don't you need vdsm-gluster on your system?

Allow me to clarify.

There have been several messages from users since the oVirt 3.2 release asking why they need Gluster 3.4 pre-releases to run oVirt.

My understanding is that you don't need Gluster 3.4 unless you want to manage a Gluster cluster with oVirt.

So my question is: are we sure that we are not leading users wrong, and confusing them during the installation & set-up process?

Thanks, Dave.

-- Dave Neary - Community Action and Impact Open Source and Standards, Red Hat - http://community.redhat.com Ph: +33 9 50 71 55 62 / Cell: +33 6 77 01 92 13

On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 7:34 AM, Shireesh Anjal wrote:

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> My understanding is that you don't need Gluster 3.4 unless you > want to > manage a Gluster cluster with oVirt. > > So my question is: are we sure that we are not leading users > wrong, > and confusing them during the installation & set-up process? >

Hello, I think I have not understood yet this matter at all and this double engine thing... Is there a link / doc to read about this addition? And in case could we also refine it and put a link to the web page during install phase? Gianluca

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From: "Simon Grinberg" <simon@redhat.com> To: "Shireesh Anjal" <sanjal@redhat.com> Cc: users@ovirt.org, "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl@redhat.com> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 5:46:01 PM Subject: Re: [Users] Package installation error

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From: "Shireesh Anjal" <sanjal@redhat.com> To: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl@redhat.com> Cc: "Simon Grinberg" <simon@redhat.com>, users@ovirt.org Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 8:34:40 AM Subject: Re: [Users] Package installation error

On 03/22/2013 12:11 AM, Alon Bar-Lev wrote:

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From: "Simon Grinberg" <simon@redhat.com> To: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl@redhat.com> Cc: users@ovirt.org, "Sahina Bose" <sabose@redhat.com>, "Dave Neary" <dneary@redhat.com> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 7:40:17 PM Subject: Re: [Users] Package installation error

----- Original Message -----

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From: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl@redhat.com> To: "Dave Neary" <dneary@redhat.com> Cc: users@ovirt.org, "Sahina Bose" <sabose@redhat.com>, "Simon Grinberg" <simon@redhat.com> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 6:35:56 PM Subject: Re: [Users] Package installation error

Simon?

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From: "Dave Neary" <dneary@redhat.com> To: "Sahina Bose" <sabose@redhat.com> Cc: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl@redhat.com>, users@ovirt.org Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 6:34:56 PM Subject: Re: [Users] Package installation error

Hi,

On 03/19/2013 05:24 AM, Sahina Bose wrote: > You are right - Gluster 3.4 is only required to manage > gluster > clusters. > > Currently the question asked at setup is this : > > "The engine can be configured to present the UI in three > different > application modes. virt [Manage virtualization only], gluster > [Manage > gluster storage only], > and both [Manage virtualization as well as gluster storage]" > where > both > is the default. > > If this is confusing to the user, we can change this message. > Suggestions? I would either:

(a) put "Virt" as the default, or I would go for this one, this keeps backwards compatibility. Is there an easy method to change this configuration later? Yes, changing the cluster settings.

No - you can change the cluster settings (virt service/gluster service) only if the application mode is "both". In virt only mode, the cluster is virt only, and same with gluster-only. So if you want user to be able to change the mode *after* installation, this config (ApplicationMode) must be exposed in the engine-config tool.

So if I'll try to sum up (with reference to other emails on this thread). 1. Default should be virt only 2. Keep the question and better explain what is the Gluster option (preferable a link to the relevant page) 3. Add a config option to easily change the selection later Need to think about the implication of the third option in case the change conflicts with hosts/clusters that are already configured other wise. Example: Initial selection was Virt and now adding dual mode - always OK Example: Initial selection was Virt, no host in the setup, and now changing to Gluster mode - OK Example: Initial selection was Virt, Hosts already in the setup installed in virt mode, and now changing to Gluster mode - What will we do?

My take, Config option can only set to dual mode, never the other way around. This will save the need to add sophisticated logic

Sounds right?

Yes, but I am unsure that this is a single config option... Maybe I did not understand you properly, but I think this should be an option in the UI. And... if this option is in UI, then... why do we need anything at setup...? user can log into the system and configure the cluster in any way he likes. I am thinking into the future that when first login into the admin console there should be some wizard, instead of performing this at setup time.

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(b) remove this question entirely - if someone is installing oVirt, assume they want to manage virt. If someone is installing Gluster, have an option during the Gluster install to have the oVirt management console. We do want people to get exposed to the Gluster option.

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If someone wants to manage both their Gluster bricks and their virt with oVirt, I would make that a post-install option to oVirt - perhaps with an extra package to install (which would depend on the later version of Gluster).

Cheers, Dave.

> On 03/19/2013 01:41 PM, Dave Neary wrote: >> Hi, >> >> On 03/19/2013 08:16 AM, Alon Bar-Lev wrote: >>> Now I am confused.... >>> Do you or don't you need vdsm-gluster on your system? >> Allow me to clarify. >> >> There have been several messages from users since the oVirt >> 3.2 >> release asking why they need Gluster 3.4 pre-releases to run >> oVirt. >> >> My understanding is that you don't need Gluster 3.4 unless >> you >> want to >> manage a Gluster cluster with oVirt. >> >> So my question is: are we sure that we are not leading users >> wrong, >> and confusing them during the installation & set-up process? >> >> Thanks, >> Dave. >> -- Dave Neary - Community Action and Impact Open Source and Standards, Red Hat - http://community.redhat.com Ph: +33 9 50 71 55 62 / Cell: +33 6 77 01 92 13

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