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Today I tried to intall another host and get this error during the installation from the
engine 3.2.1. The host is a fedora 18
Failed to execute stage 'Package installation':
[u'vdsm-gluster-4.10.3-10.fc18.noarch requires glusterfs >= 3.4.0'].
Yum [u'vdsm-gluster-4.10.3-10.fc18.noarch requires glusterfs >= 3.4.0'].
Regards
Jose
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height:
normal;">Today I tried to intall another host and get this error during the
installation from the engine 3.2.1. The host is a fedora 18<br></p><p
class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height:
normal;"><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;">Failed to execute stage
'Package installation':
[u'vdsm-gluster-4.10.3-10.fc18.noarch requires glusterfs >=
3.4.0'].</p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:
0.0001pt; line-height: normal;">Yum [u'vdsm-gluster-4.10.3-10.fc18.noarch
requires glusterfs >= 3.4.0'].</p><p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height:
normal;"><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;">Regards</p><p
class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height:
normal;"><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;">Jose<br><span
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Roman","serif";"
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3:44 a.m.
The error is self explainable... the glusterfs available to yum is older than what
requires. You probably need some testing repository.
----- Original Message -----
From: suporte(a)logicworks.pt
To: Users(a)ovirt.org
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 7:40:56 PM
Subject: [Users] Package installation error
Today I tried to intall another host and get this error during the
installation from the engine 3.2.1. The host is a fedora 18
Failed to execute stage 'Package installation':
[u'vdsm-gluster-4.10.3-10.fc18.noarch requires glusterfs >= 3.4.0'].
Yum [u'vdsm-gluster-4.10.3-10.fc18.noarch requires glusterfs >=
3.4.0'].
Regards
Jose
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http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
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Yes i got it, but the installation is automatically. What can I do?=20
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Para: suporte(a)logicworks.pt=20
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The error is self explainable... the glusterfs available to yum is older th=
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> To: Users(a)ovirt.org<br>&gt; Sent: Monday, March 18,
2013 7:40:56 PM<b=
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4:16 a.m.
And the missing repository to the host before you perform the host deploy.
----- Original Message -----
From: suporte(a)logicworks.pt
To: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl(a)redhat.com>
Cc: Users(a)ovirt.org
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 8:06:17 PM
Subject: Re: [Users] Package installation error
Yes i got it, but the installation is automatically. What can I do?
thanks
Jose
----- Original Message -----
De: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl(a)redhat.com>
Para: suporte(a)logicworks.pt
Cc: Users(a)ovirt.org
Enviadas: Segunda-feira, 18 de Março de 2013 17:44:12
Assunto: Re: [Users] Package installation error
The error is self explainable... the glusterfs available to yum is
older than what requires. You probably need some testing repository.
----- Original Message -----
> From: suporte(a)logicworks.pt
> To: Users(a)ovirt.org
> Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 7:40:56 PM
> Subject: [Users] Package installation error
>
>
>
>
>
> Today I tried to intall another host and get this error during the
> installation from the engine 3.2.1. The host is a fedora 18
>
>
>
>
>
> Failed to execute stage 'Package installation':
> [u'vdsm-gluster-4.10.3-10.fc18.noarch requires glusterfs >=
> 3.4.0'].
>
> Yum [u'vdsm-gluster-4.10.3-10.fc18.noarch requires glusterfs >=
> 3.4.0'].
>
>
>
>
> Regards
>
>
>
>
> Jose
>
> _______________________________________________
> Users mailing list
> Users(a)ovirt.org
> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
>
4:26 a.m.
Another option: if you are not really using gluster, remove the gluster support from the
ovirt-engine cluster.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl(a)redhat.com>
To: suporte(a)logicworks.pt
Cc: Users(a)ovirt.org
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 8:16:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Users] Package installation error
And the missing repository to the host before you perform the host
deploy.
----- Original Message -----
> From: suporte(a)logicworks.pt
> To: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl(a)redhat.com>
> Cc: Users(a)ovirt.org
> Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 8:06:17 PM
> Subject: Re: [Users] Package installation error
>
>
> Yes i got it, but the installation is automatically. What can I do?
>
> thanks
> Jose
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> De: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl(a)redhat.com>
> Para: suporte(a)logicworks.pt
> Cc: Users(a)ovirt.org
> Enviadas: Segunda-feira, 18 de Março de 2013 17:44:12
> Assunto: Re: [Users] Package installation error
>
> The error is self explainable... the glusterfs available to yum is
> older than what requires. You probably need some testing
> repository.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> > From: suporte(a)logicworks.pt
> > To: Users(a)ovirt.org
> > Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 7:40:56 PM
> > Subject: [Users] Package installation error
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Today I tried to intall another host and get this error during
> > the
> > installation from the engine 3.2.1. The host is a fedora 18
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Failed to execute stage 'Package installation':
> > [u'vdsm-gluster-4.10.3-10.fc18.noarch requires glusterfs >=
> > 3.4.0'].
> >
> > Yum [u'vdsm-gluster-4.10.3-10.fc18.noarch requires glusterfs >=
> > 3.4.0'].
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Jose
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Users mailing list
> > Users(a)ovirt.org
> > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
> >
>
>
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6:49 a.m.
Hi,
On 03/18/2013 06:44 PM, Alon Bar-Lev wrote:
The error is self explainable... the glusterfs available to yum is
older than what requires. You probably need some testing repository.
I still don't understand why installing a host tries to install
vdsm-gluster - is there a dependency chain gone wrong? That package
should only be necesary if you're using the oVirt management interface
for Gluster, not a normal node install.
Or am I misunderstanding what Jose wants to do?
Cheers,
Dave.
----- Original Message -----
> From: suporte(a)logicworks.pt
> To: Users(a)ovirt.org
> Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 7:40:56 PM
> Subject: [Users] Package installation error
>
>
>
>
>
> Today I tried to intall another host and get this error during the
> installation from the engine 3.2.1. The host is a fedora 18
>
>
>
>
>
> Failed to execute stage 'Package installation':
> [u'vdsm-gluster-4.10.3-10.fc18.noarch requires glusterfs >= 3.4.0'].
>
> Yum [u'vdsm-gluster-4.10.3-10.fc18.noarch requires glusterfs >=
> 3.4.0'].
>
>
>
>
> Regards
>
>
>
>
> Jose
>
> _______________________________________________
> Users mailing list
> Users(a)ovirt.org
> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
>
_______________________________________________
Users mailing list
Users(a)ovirt.org
http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
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Open Source and Standards, Red Hat - http://community.redhat.com
Ph: +33 9 50 71 55 62 / Cell: +33 6 77 01 92 13
4:56 p.m.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Neary" <dneary(a)redhat.com>
To: users(a)ovirt.org
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 10:49:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Users] Package installation error
Hi,
On 03/18/2013 06:44 PM, Alon Bar-Lev wrote:
> The error is self explainable... the glusterfs available to yum is
> older than what requires. You probably need some testing
> repository.
I still don't understand why installing a host tries to install
vdsm-gluster - is there a dependency chain gone wrong? That package
should only be necesary if you're using the oVirt management
interface
for Gluster, not a normal node install.
Or am I misunderstanding what Jose wants to do?
Obviously something is wrong with the dependency, not sure which version of gluster is
required and what is available in fedora.
The root cause of this is that setup defaults no to use both gluster and virt for the
default domain, while in the past it used to default to virt. So if you do not wish to use
gluster, please do not select both at installation, or turn of the gluster from the
cluster after installation.
Cheers,
Dave.
> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: suporte(a)logicworks.pt
>> To: Users(a)ovirt.org
>> Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 7:40:56 PM
>> Subject: [Users] Package installation error
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Today I tried to intall another host and get this error during the
>> installation from the engine 3.2.1. The host is a fedora 18
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Failed to execute stage 'Package installation':
>> [u'vdsm-gluster-4.10.3-10.fc18.noarch requires glusterfs >=
>> 3.4.0'].
>>
>> Yum [u'vdsm-gluster-4.10.3-10.fc18.noarch requires glusterfs >=
>> 3.4.0'].
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Jose
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Users mailing list
>> Users(a)ovirt.org
>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
>>
> _______________________________________________
> Users mailing list
> Users(a)ovirt.org
> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
>
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5:02 p.m.
Hi Alon,
On 03/19/2013 07:56 AM, Alon Bar-Lev wrote:
Obviously something is wrong with the dependency, not sure which
version of gluster is required and what is available in fedora.
The root cause of this is that setup defaults no to use both gluster and virt for the
default domain, while in the past it used to default to virt. So if you do not wish to use
gluster, please do not select both at installation, or turn of the gluster from the
cluster after installation.
I think the wording here is confusing.
To an oVirt user, "using Gluster" means having a Gluster storage domain
as shared storage.
In the context of the Gluster management console, oVirt does not use
Gluster, Gluster uses oVirt.
Would it be possible to review the set-up process to ensure that we are
not inadvertently sending users who just want to use a stable version of
Gluster as storage in the wrong direction? This comes up frequently, and
seems to be confusing people.
Thanks,
Dave.
--
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Open Source and Standards, Red Hat - http://community.redhat.com
Ph: +33 9 50 71 55 62 / Cell: +33 6 77 01 92 13
5:16 p.m.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Neary" <dneary(a)redhat.com>
To: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl(a)redhat.com>
Cc: users(a)ovirt.org
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 9:02:13 AM
Subject: Re: [Users] Package installation error
Hi Alon,
On 03/19/2013 07:56 AM, Alon Bar-Lev wrote:
> Obviously something is wrong with the dependency, not sure which
> version of gluster is required and what is available in fedora.
>
> The root cause of this is that setup defaults no to use both
> gluster and virt for the default domain, while in the past it used
> to default to virt. So if you do not wish to use gluster, please
> do not select both at installation, or turn of the gluster from
> the cluster after installation.
I think the wording here is confusing.
To an oVirt user, "using Gluster" means having a Gluster storage
domain
as shared storage.
In the context of the Gluster management console, oVirt does not use
Gluster, Gluster uses oVirt.
Would it be possible to review the set-up process to ensure that we
are
not inadvertently sending users who just want to use a stable version
of
Gluster as storage in the wrong direction? This comes up frequently,
and
seems to be confusing people.
Thanks,
Dave.
Now I am confused....
Do you or don't you need vdsm-gluster on your system?
6:01 p.m.
On 19-3-2013 8:16, Alon Bar-Lev wrote:
----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dave Neary" <dneary(a)redhat.com>
> To: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl(a)redhat.com>
> Cc: users(a)ovirt.org
> Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 9:02:13 AM
> Subject: Re: [Users] Package installation error
>
> Hi Alon,
>
> On 03/19/2013 07:56 AM, Alon Bar-Lev wrote:
>> Obviously something is wrong with the dependency, not sure which
>> version of gluster is required and what is available in fedora.
>>
>> The root cause of this is that setup defaults no to use both
>> gluster and virt for the default domain, while in the past it used
>> to default to virt. So if you do not wish to use gluster, please
>> do not select both at installation, or turn of the gluster from
>> the cluster after installation.
> I think the wording here is confusing.
>
> To an oVirt user, "using Gluster" means having a Gluster storage
> domain
> as shared storage.
>
> In the context of the Gluster management console, oVirt does not use
> Gluster, Gluster uses oVirt.
>
> Would it be possible to review the set-up process to ensure that we
> are
> not inadvertently sending users who just want to use a stable version
> of
> Gluster as storage in the wrong direction? This comes up frequently,
> and
> seems to be confusing people.
>
> Thanks,
> Dave.
Now I am confused....
Do you or don't you need vdsm-gluster on your system?
If the gluster checkbox
is set on the cluster then you'll need the
gluster packages. If you don't use gluster but said so
(both=virt+gluster) during engine-setup then the checkbox will be
checked and you'll need the packages.
The bigger problem ofcourse is that oVirt-3.2.1 requires gluster-3.4.0
which isn't in the standard repos at the moment.
Joop
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7:09 p.m.
On 03/19/2013 01:31 PM, noc wrote:
On 19-3-2013 8:16, Alon Bar-Lev wrote:
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Dave Neary" <dneary(a)redhat.com>
>> To: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl(a)redhat.com>
>> Cc: users(a)ovirt.org
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 9:02:13 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Users] Package installation error
>>
>> Hi Alon,
>>
>> On 03/19/2013 07:56 AM, Alon Bar-Lev wrote:
>>> Obviously something is wrong with the dependency, not sure which
>>> version of gluster is required and what is available in fedora.
>>>
>>> The root cause of this is that setup defaults no to use both
>>> gluster and virt for the default domain, while in the past it used
>>> to default to virt. So if you do not wish to use gluster, please
>>> do not select both at installation, or turn of the gluster from
>>> the cluster after installation.
>> I think the wording here is confusing.
>>
>> To an oVirt user, "using Gluster" means having a Gluster storage
>> domain
>> as shared storage.
>>
>> In the context of the Gluster management console, oVirt does not use
>> Gluster, Gluster uses oVirt.
>>
>> Would it be possible to review the set-up process to ensure that we
>> are
>> not inadvertently sending users who just want to use a stable version
>> of
>> Gluster as storage in the wrong direction? This comes up frequently,
>> and
>> seems to be confusing people.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Dave.
> Now I am confused....
> Do you or don't you need vdsm-gluster on your system?
If the gluster checkbox is set on the cluster then you'll need the
gluster packages. If you don't use gluster but said so
(both=virt+gluster) during engine-setup then the checkbox will be
checked and you'll need the packages.
The bigger problem ofcourse is that oVirt-3.2.1 requires gluster-3.4.0
which isn't in the standard repos at the moment.
Regarding glusterfs 3.4.0 packages, gluster 3.4.0alpha2 version is
available at
http://bits.gluster.org/pub/gluster/glusterfs/3.4.0alpha2/x86_64/ and
which is not available in Fedora repository. BTW gluster-3.4.0 is under
development and stable version will be available soon.
Regards,
Bala
6:11 p.m.
Hi,
On 03/19/2013 08:16 AM, Alon Bar-Lev wrote:
Now I am confused....
Do you or don't you need vdsm-gluster on your system?
Allow me to clarify.
There have been several messages from users since the oVirt 3.2 release
asking why they need Gluster 3.4 pre-releases to run oVirt.
My understanding is that you don't need Gluster 3.4 unless you want to
manage a Gluster cluster with oVirt.
So my question is: are we sure that we are not leading users wrong, and
confusing them during the installation & set-up process?
Thanks,
Dave.
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Open Source and Standards, Red Hat - http://community.redhat.com
Ph: +33 9 50 71 55 62 / Cell: +33 6 77 01 92 13
7:24 p.m.
You are right - Gluster 3.4 is only required to manage gluster clusters.
Currently the question asked at setup is this :
"The engine can be configured to present the UI in three different
application modes. virt [Manage virtualization only], gluster [Manage
gluster storage only],
and both [Manage virtualization as well as gluster storage]" where both
is the default.
If this is confusing to the user, we can change this message. Suggestions?
On 03/19/2013 01:41 PM, Dave Neary wrote:
Hi,
On 03/19/2013 08:16 AM, Alon Bar-Lev wrote:
> Now I am confused....
> Do you or don't you need vdsm-gluster on your system?
Allow me to clarify.
There have been several messages from users since the oVirt 3.2
release asking why they need Gluster 3.4 pre-releases to run oVirt.
My understanding is that you don't need Gluster 3.4 unless you want to
manage a Gluster cluster with oVirt.
So my question is: are we sure that we are not leading users wrong,
and confusing them during the installation & set-up process?
Thanks,
Dave.
7:43 p.m.
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2:34 a.m.
Hi,
On 03/19/2013 05:24 AM, Sahina Bose wrote:
You are right - Gluster 3.4 is only required to manage gluster
clusters.
Currently the question asked at setup is this :
"The engine can be configured to present the UI in three different
application modes. virt [Manage virtualization only], gluster [Manage
gluster storage only],
and both [Manage virtualization as well as gluster storage]" where both
is the default.
If this is confusing to the user, we can change this message. Suggestions?
I would either:
(a) put "Virt" as the default, or
(b) remove this question entirely - if someone is installing oVirt,
assume they want to manage virt. If someone is installing Gluster, have
an option during the Gluster install to have the oVirt management console.
If someone wants to manage both their Gluster bricks and their virt with
oVirt, I would make that a post-install option to oVirt - perhaps with
an extra package to install (which would depend on the later version of
Gluster).
Cheers,
Dave.
On 03/19/2013 01:41 PM, Dave Neary wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 03/19/2013 08:16 AM, Alon Bar-Lev wrote:
>> Now I am confused....
>> Do you or don't you need vdsm-gluster on your system?
>
> Allow me to clarify.
>
> There have been several messages from users since the oVirt 3.2
> release asking why they need Gluster 3.4 pre-releases to run oVirt.
>
> My understanding is that you don't need Gluster 3.4 unless you want to
> manage a Gluster cluster with oVirt.
>
> So my question is: are we sure that we are not leading users wrong,
> and confusing them during the installation & set-up process?
>
> Thanks,
> Dave.
>
--
Dave Neary - Community Action and Impact
Open Source and Standards, Red Hat - http://community.redhat.com
Ph: +33 9 50 71 55 62 / Cell: +33 6 77 01 92 13
2:35 a.m.
Simon?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Neary" <dneary(a)redhat.com>
To: "Sahina Bose" <sabose(a)redhat.com>
Cc: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl(a)redhat.com>, users(a)ovirt.org
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 6:34:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Users] Package installation error
Hi,
On 03/19/2013 05:24 AM, Sahina Bose wrote:
> You are right - Gluster 3.4 is only required to manage gluster
> clusters.
>
> Currently the question asked at setup is this :
>
> "The engine can be configured to present the UI in three different
> application modes. virt [Manage virtualization only], gluster
> [Manage
> gluster storage only],
> and both [Manage virtualization as well as gluster storage]" where
> both
> is the default.
>
> If this is confusing to the user, we can change this message.
> Suggestions?
I would either:
(a) put "Virt" as the default, or
(b) remove this question entirely - if someone is installing oVirt,
assume they want to manage virt. If someone is installing Gluster,
have
an option during the Gluster install to have the oVirt management
console.
If someone wants to manage both their Gluster bricks and their virt
with
oVirt, I would make that a post-install option to oVirt - perhaps
with
an extra package to install (which would depend on the later version
of
Gluster).
Cheers,
Dave.
> On 03/19/2013 01:41 PM, Dave Neary wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> On 03/19/2013 08:16 AM, Alon Bar-Lev wrote:
>>> Now I am confused....
>>> Do you or don't you need vdsm-gluster on your system?
>>
>> Allow me to clarify.
>>
>> There have been several messages from users since the oVirt 3.2
>> release asking why they need Gluster 3.4 pre-releases to run
>> oVirt.
>>
>> My understanding is that you don't need Gluster 3.4 unless you
>> want to
>> manage a Gluster cluster with oVirt.
>>
>> So my question is: are we sure that we are not leading users
>> wrong,
>> and confusing them during the installation & set-up process?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Dave.
>>
>
--
Dave Neary - Community Action and Impact
Open Source and Standards, Red Hat - http://community.redhat.com
Ph: +33 9 50 71 55 62 / Cell: +33 6 77 01 92 13
3:40 a.m.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl(a)redhat.com>
To: "Dave Neary" <dneary(a)redhat.com>
Cc: users(a)ovirt.org, "Sahina Bose" <sabose(a)redhat.com>, "Simon
Grinberg" <simon(a)redhat.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 6:35:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Users] Package installation error
Simon?
----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dave Neary" <dneary(a)redhat.com>
> To: "Sahina Bose" <sabose(a)redhat.com>
> Cc: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl(a)redhat.com>, users(a)ovirt.org
> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 6:34:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [Users] Package installation error
>
> Hi,
>
> On 03/19/2013 05:24 AM, Sahina Bose wrote:
> > You are right - Gluster 3.4 is only required to manage gluster
> > clusters.
> >
> > Currently the question asked at setup is this :
> >
> > "The engine can be configured to present the UI in three
> > different
> > application modes. virt [Manage virtualization only], gluster
> > [Manage
> > gluster storage only],
> > and both [Manage virtualization as well as gluster storage]"
> > where
> > both
> > is the default.
> >
> > If this is confusing to the user, we can change this message.
> > Suggestions?
>
> I would either:
>
> (a) put "Virt" as the default, or
I would go for this one, this keeps backwards compatibility.
Is there an easy method to change this configuration later?
> (b) remove this question entirely - if someone is installing
oVirt,
> assume they want to manage virt. If someone is installing Gluster,
> have
> an option during the Gluster install to have the oVirt management
> console.
We do want people to get exposed to the Gluster option.
>
> If someone wants to manage both their Gluster bricks and their virt
> with
> oVirt, I would make that a post-install option to oVirt - perhaps
> with
> an extra package to install (which would depend on the later
> version
> of
> Gluster).
>
> Cheers,
> Dave.
>
>
>
> > On 03/19/2013 01:41 PM, Dave Neary wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> On 03/19/2013 08:16 AM, Alon Bar-Lev wrote:
> >>> Now I am confused....
> >>> Do you or don't you need vdsm-gluster on your system?
> >>
> >> Allow me to clarify.
> >>
> >> There have been several messages from users since the oVirt 3.2
> >> release asking why they need Gluster 3.4 pre-releases to run
> >> oVirt.
> >>
> >> My understanding is that you don't need Gluster 3.4 unless you
> >> want to
> >> manage a Gluster cluster with oVirt.
> >>
> >> So my question is: are we sure that we are not leading users
> >> wrong,
> >> and confusing them during the installation & set-up process?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Dave.
> >>
> >
>
> --
> Dave Neary - Community Action and Impact
> Open Source and Standards, Red Hat - http://community.redhat.com
> Ph: +33 9 50 71 55 62 / Cell: +33 6 77 01 92 13
>
4:41 a.m.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Simon Grinberg" <simon(a)redhat.com>
To: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl(a)redhat.com>
Cc: users(a)ovirt.org, "Sahina Bose" <sabose(a)redhat.com>, "Dave
Neary" <dneary(a)redhat.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 7:40:17 PM
Subject: Re: [Users] Package installation error
----- Original Message -----
> From: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl(a)redhat.com>
> To: "Dave Neary" <dneary(a)redhat.com>
> Cc: users(a)ovirt.org, "Sahina Bose" <sabose(a)redhat.com>, "Simon
> Grinberg" <simon(a)redhat.com>
> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 6:35:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [Users] Package installation error
>
> Simon?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Dave Neary" <dneary(a)redhat.com>
> > To: "Sahina Bose" <sabose(a)redhat.com>
> > Cc: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl(a)redhat.com>, users(a)ovirt.org
> > Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 6:34:56 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Users] Package installation error
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > On 03/19/2013 05:24 AM, Sahina Bose wrote:
> > > You are right - Gluster 3.4 is only required to manage gluster
> > > clusters.
> > >
> > > Currently the question asked at setup is this :
> > >
> > > "The engine can be configured to present the UI in three
> > > different
> > > application modes. virt [Manage virtualization only], gluster
> > > [Manage
> > > gluster storage only],
> > > and both [Manage virtualization as well as gluster storage]"
> > > where
> > > both
> > > is the default.
> > >
> > > If this is confusing to the user, we can change this message.
> > > Suggestions?
> >
> > I would either:
> >
> > (a) put "Virt" as the default, or
I would go for this one, this keeps backwards compatibility.
Is there an easy method to change this configuration later?
Yes, changing the cluster settings.
> > (b) remove this question entirely - if someone is installing
> > oVirt,
> > assume they want to manage virt. If someone is installing
> > Gluster,
> > have
> > an option during the Gluster install to have the oVirt management
> > console.
We do want people to get exposed to the Gluster option.
> >
> > If someone wants to manage both their Gluster bricks and their
> > virt
> > with
> > oVirt, I would make that a post-install option to oVirt - perhaps
> > with
> > an extra package to install (which would depend on the later
> > version
> > of
> > Gluster).
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Dave.
> >
> >
> >
> > > On 03/19/2013 01:41 PM, Dave Neary wrote:
> > >> Hi,
> > >>
> > >> On 03/19/2013 08:16 AM, Alon Bar-Lev wrote:
> > >>> Now I am confused....
> > >>> Do you or don't you need vdsm-gluster on your system?
> > >>
> > >> Allow me to clarify.
> > >>
> > >> There have been several messages from users since the oVirt
> > >> 3.2
> > >> release asking why they need Gluster 3.4 pre-releases to run
> > >> oVirt.
> > >>
> > >> My understanding is that you don't need Gluster 3.4 unless you
> > >> want to
> > >> manage a Gluster cluster with oVirt.
> > >>
> > >> So my question is: are we sure that we are not leading users
> > >> wrong,
> > >> and confusing them during the installation & set-up process?
> > >>
> > >> Thanks,
> > >> Dave.
> > >>
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Dave Neary - Community Action and Impact
> > Open Source and Standards, Red Hat - http://community.redhat.com
> > Ph: +33 9 50 71 55 62 / Cell: +33 6 77 01 92 13
> >
>
4:34 p.m.
On 03/22/2013 12:11 AM, Alon Bar-Lev wrote:
----- Original Message -----
> From: "Simon Grinberg" <simon(a)redhat.com>
> To: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl(a)redhat.com>
> Cc: users(a)ovirt.org, "Sahina Bose" <sabose(a)redhat.com>, "Dave
Neary" <dneary(a)redhat.com>
> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 7:40:17 PM
> Subject: Re: [Users] Package installation error
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl(a)redhat.com>
>> To: "Dave Neary" <dneary(a)redhat.com>
>> Cc: users(a)ovirt.org, "Sahina Bose" <sabose(a)redhat.com>,
"Simon
>> Grinberg" <simon(a)redhat.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 6:35:56 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Users] Package installation error
>>
>> Simon?
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Dave Neary" <dneary(a)redhat.com>
>>> To: "Sahina Bose" <sabose(a)redhat.com>
>>> Cc: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl(a)redhat.com>, users(a)ovirt.org
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 6:34:56 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Users] Package installation error
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> On 03/19/2013 05:24 AM, Sahina Bose wrote:
>>>> You are right - Gluster 3.4 is only required to manage gluster
>>>> clusters.
>>>>
>>>> Currently the question asked at setup is this :
>>>>
>>>> "The engine can be configured to present the UI in three
>>>> different
>>>> application modes. virt [Manage virtualization only], gluster
>>>> [Manage
>>>> gluster storage only],
>>>> and both [Manage virtualization as well as gluster storage]"
>>>> where
>>>> both
>>>> is the default.
>>>>
>>>> If this is confusing to the user, we can change this message.
>>>> Suggestions?
>>> I would either:
>>>
>>> (a) put "Virt" as the default, or
> I would go for this one, this keeps backwards compatibility.
> Is there an easy method to change this configuration later?
Yes, changing the cluster settings.
No - you can change the cluster settings (virt service/gluster service)
only if the application mode is "both". In virt only mode, the cluster
is virt only, and same with gluster-only. So if you want user to be able
to change the mode *after* installation, this config (ApplicationMode)
must be exposed in the engine-config tool.
>>> (b) remove this question entirely - if someone is installing
>>> oVirt,
>>> assume they want to manage virt. If someone is installing
>>> Gluster,
>>> have
>>> an option during the Gluster install to have the oVirt management
>>> console.
> We do want people to get exposed to the Gluster option.
>
>>> If someone wants to manage both their Gluster bricks and their
>>> virt
>>> with
>>> oVirt, I would make that a post-install option to oVirt - perhaps
>>> with
>>> an extra package to install (which would depend on the later
>>> version
>>> of
>>> Gluster).
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Dave.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 03/19/2013 01:41 PM, Dave Neary wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> On 03/19/2013 08:16 AM, Alon Bar-Lev wrote:
>>>>>> Now I am confused....
>>>>>> Do you or don't you need vdsm-gluster on your system?
>>>>> Allow me to clarify.
>>>>>
>>>>> There have been several messages from users since the oVirt
>>>>> 3.2
>>>>> release asking why they need Gluster 3.4 pre-releases to run
>>>>> oVirt.
>>>>>
>>>>> My understanding is that you don't need Gluster 3.4 unless you
>>>>> want to
>>>>> manage a Gluster cluster with oVirt.
>>>>>
>>>>> So my question is: are we sure that we are not leading users
>>>>> wrong,
>>>>> and confusing them during the installation & set-up process?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Dave.
>>>>>
>>> --
>>> Dave Neary - Community Action and Impact
>>> Open Source and Standards, Red Hat - http://community.redhat.com
>>> Ph: +33 9 50 71 55 62 / Cell: +33 6 77 01 92 13
>>>
_______________________________________________
Users mailing list
Users(a)ovirt.org
http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
5:11 p.m.
On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 7:34 AM, Shireesh Anjal wrote:
>>>>>> My understanding is that you don't need
Gluster 3.4 unless you
>>>>>> want to
>>>>>> manage a Gluster cluster with oVirt.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So my question is: are we sure that we are not leading users
>>>>>> wrong,
>>>>>> and confusing them during the installation & set-up process?
>>>>>>
Hello,
I think I have not understood yet this matter at all and this double
engine thing...
Is there a link / doc to read about this addition?
And in case could we also refine it and put a link to the web page
during install phase?
Gianluca
1:46 a.m.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Shireesh Anjal" <sanjal(a)redhat.com>
To: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl(a)redhat.com>
Cc: "Simon Grinberg" <simon(a)redhat.com>, users(a)ovirt.org
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 8:34:40 AM
Subject: Re: [Users] Package installation error
On 03/22/2013 12:11 AM, Alon Bar-Lev wrote:
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Simon Grinberg" <simon(a)redhat.com>
>> To: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl(a)redhat.com>
>> Cc: users(a)ovirt.org, "Sahina Bose" <sabose(a)redhat.com>,
"Dave
>> Neary" <dneary(a)redhat.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 7:40:17 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Users] Package installation error
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl(a)redhat.com>
>>> To: "Dave Neary" <dneary(a)redhat.com>
>>> Cc: users(a)ovirt.org, "Sahina Bose" <sabose(a)redhat.com>,
"Simon
>>> Grinberg" <simon(a)redhat.com>
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 6:35:56 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Users] Package installation error
>>>
>>> Simon?
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Dave Neary" <dneary(a)redhat.com>
>>>> To: "Sahina Bose" <sabose(a)redhat.com>
>>>> Cc: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl(a)redhat.com>, users(a)ovirt.org
>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 6:34:56 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Users] Package installation error
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> On 03/19/2013 05:24 AM, Sahina Bose wrote:
>>>>> You are right - Gluster 3.4 is only required to manage gluster
>>>>> clusters.
>>>>>
>>>>> Currently the question asked at setup is this :
>>>>>
>>>>> "The engine can be configured to present the UI in three
>>>>> different
>>>>> application modes. virt [Manage virtualization only], gluster
>>>>> [Manage
>>>>> gluster storage only],
>>>>> and both [Manage virtualization as well as gluster storage]"
>>>>> where
>>>>> both
>>>>> is the default.
>>>>>
>>>>> If this is confusing to the user, we can change this message.
>>>>> Suggestions?
>>>> I would either:
>>>>
>>>> (a) put "Virt" as the default, or
>> I would go for this one, this keeps backwards compatibility.
>> Is there an easy method to change this configuration later?
> Yes, changing the cluster settings.
No - you can change the cluster settings (virt service/gluster
service)
only if the application mode is "both". In virt only mode, the
cluster
is virt only, and same with gluster-only. So if you want user to be
able
to change the mode *after* installation, this config
(ApplicationMode)
must be exposed in the engine-config tool.
So if I'll try to sum up (with reference to other emails on this thread).
1. Default should be virt only
2. Keep the question and better explain what is the Gluster option (preferable a link to
the relevant page)
3. Add a config option to easily change the selection later
Need to think about the implication of the third option in case the change conflicts with
hosts/clusters that are already configured other wise.
Example: Initial selection was Virt and now adding dual mode - always OK
Example: Initial selection was Virt, no host in the setup, and now changing to Gluster
mode - OK
Example: Initial selection was Virt, Hosts already in the setup installed in virt mode,
and now changing to Gluster mode - What will we do?
My take,
Config option can only set to dual mode, never the other way around. This will save the
need to add sophisticated logic
Sounds right?
>
>>>> (b) remove this question entirely - if someone is installing
>>>> oVirt,
>>>> assume they want to manage virt. If someone is installing
>>>> Gluster,
>>>> have
>>>> an option during the Gluster install to have the oVirt
>>>> management
>>>> console.
>> We do want people to get exposed to the Gluster option.
>>
>>>> If someone wants to manage both their Gluster bricks and their
>>>> virt
>>>> with
>>>> oVirt, I would make that a post-install option to oVirt -
>>>> perhaps
>>>> with
>>>> an extra package to install (which would depend on the later
>>>> version
>>>> of
>>>> Gluster).
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Dave.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 03/19/2013 01:41 PM, Dave Neary wrote:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 03/19/2013 08:16 AM, Alon Bar-Lev wrote:
>>>>>>> Now I am confused....
>>>>>>> Do you or don't you need vdsm-gluster on your system?
>>>>>> Allow me to clarify.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There have been several messages from users since the oVirt
>>>>>> 3.2
>>>>>> release asking why they need Gluster 3.4 pre-releases to run
>>>>>> oVirt.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My understanding is that you don't need Gluster 3.4 unless
you
>>>>>> want to
>>>>>> manage a Gluster cluster with oVirt.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So my question is: are we sure that we are not leading users
>>>>>> wrong,
>>>>>> and confusing them during the installation & set-up
process?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Dave.
>>>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Dave Neary - Community Action and Impact
>>>> Open Source and Standards, Red Hat - http://community.redhat.com
>>>> Ph: +33 9 50 71 55 62 / Cell: +33 6 77 01 92 13
>>>>
> _______________________________________________
> Users mailing list
> Users(a)ovirt.org
> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
1:51 a.m.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Simon Grinberg" <simon(a)redhat.com>
To: "Shireesh Anjal" <sanjal(a)redhat.com>
Cc: users(a)ovirt.org, "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl(a)redhat.com>
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 5:46:01 PM
Subject: Re: [Users] Package installation error
----- Original Message -----
> From: "Shireesh Anjal" <sanjal(a)redhat.com>
> To: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl(a)redhat.com>
> Cc: "Simon Grinberg" <simon(a)redhat.com>, users(a)ovirt.org
> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 8:34:40 AM
> Subject: Re: [Users] Package installation error
>
> On 03/22/2013 12:11 AM, Alon Bar-Lev wrote:
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Simon Grinberg" <simon(a)redhat.com>
> >> To: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl(a)redhat.com>
> >> Cc: users(a)ovirt.org, "Sahina Bose" <sabose(a)redhat.com>,
"Dave
> >> Neary" <dneary(a)redhat.com>
> >> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 7:40:17 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [Users] Package installation error
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl(a)redhat.com>
> >>> To: "Dave Neary" <dneary(a)redhat.com>
> >>> Cc: users(a)ovirt.org, "Sahina Bose" <sabose(a)redhat.com>,
"Simon
> >>> Grinberg" <simon(a)redhat.com>
> >>> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 6:35:56 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: [Users] Package installation error
> >>>
> >>> Simon?
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>> From: "Dave Neary" <dneary(a)redhat.com>
> >>>> To: "Sahina Bose" <sabose(a)redhat.com>
> >>>> Cc: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl(a)redhat.com>,
users(a)ovirt.org
> >>>> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 6:34:56 PM
> >>>> Subject: Re: [Users] Package installation error
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>> On 03/19/2013 05:24 AM, Sahina Bose wrote:
> >>>>> You are right - Gluster 3.4 is only required to manage
> >>>>> gluster
> >>>>> clusters.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Currently the question asked at setup is this :
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "The engine can be configured to present the UI in three
> >>>>> different
> >>>>> application modes. virt [Manage virtualization only], gluster
> >>>>> [Manage
> >>>>> gluster storage only],
> >>>>> and both [Manage virtualization as well as gluster
storage]"
> >>>>> where
> >>>>> both
> >>>>> is the default.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If this is confusing to the user, we can change this message.
> >>>>> Suggestions?
> >>>> I would either:
> >>>>
> >>>> (a) put "Virt" as the default, or
> >> I would go for this one, this keeps backwards compatibility.
> >> Is there an easy method to change this configuration later?
> > Yes, changing the cluster settings.
>
> No - you can change the cluster settings (virt service/gluster
> service)
> only if the application mode is "both". In virt only mode, the
> cluster
> is virt only, and same with gluster-only. So if you want user to be
> able
> to change the mode *after* installation, this config
> (ApplicationMode)
> must be exposed in the engine-config tool.
So if I'll try to sum up (with reference to other emails on this
thread).
1. Default should be virt only
2. Keep the question and better explain what is the Gluster option
(preferable a link to the relevant page)
3. Add a config option to easily change the selection later
Need to think about the implication of the third option in case the
change conflicts with hosts/clusters that are already configured
other wise.
Example: Initial selection was Virt and now adding dual mode - always
OK
Example: Initial selection was Virt, no host in the setup, and now
changing to Gluster mode - OK
Example: Initial selection was Virt, Hosts already in the setup
installed in virt mode, and now changing to Gluster mode - What will
we do?
My take,
Config option can only set to dual mode, never the other way around.
This will save the need to add sophisticated logic
Sounds right?
Yes, but I am unsure that this is a single config option...
Maybe I did not understand you properly, but I think this should be an option in the UI.
And... if this option is in UI, then... why do we need anything at setup...? user can log
into the system and configure the cluster in any way he likes.
I am thinking into the future that when first login into the admin console there should be
some wizard, instead of performing this at setup time.
>
> >
> >>>> (b) remove this question entirely - if someone is installing
> >>>> oVirt,
> >>>> assume they want to manage virt. If someone is installing
> >>>> Gluster,
> >>>> have
> >>>> an option during the Gluster install to have the oVirt
> >>>> management
> >>>> console.
> >> We do want people to get exposed to the Gluster option.
> >>
> >>>> If someone wants to manage both their Gluster bricks and their
> >>>> virt
> >>>> with
> >>>> oVirt, I would make that a post-install option to oVirt -
> >>>> perhaps
> >>>> with
> >>>> an extra package to install (which would depend on the later
> >>>> version
> >>>> of
> >>>> Gluster).
> >>>>
> >>>> Cheers,
> >>>> Dave.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> On 03/19/2013 01:41 PM, Dave Neary wrote:
> >>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 03/19/2013 08:16 AM, Alon Bar-Lev wrote:
> >>>>>>> Now I am confused....
> >>>>>>> Do you or don't you need vdsm-gluster on your
system?
> >>>>>> Allow me to clarify.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> There have been several messages from users since the
oVirt
> >>>>>> 3.2
> >>>>>> release asking why they need Gluster 3.4 pre-releases to
run
> >>>>>> oVirt.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> My understanding is that you don't need Gluster 3.4
unless
> >>>>>> you
> >>>>>> want to
> >>>>>> manage a Gluster cluster with oVirt.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> So my question is: are we sure that we are not leading
users
> >>>>>> wrong,
> >>>>>> and confusing them during the installation & set-up
process?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>> Dave.
> >>>>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Dave Neary - Community Action and Impact
> >>>> Open Source and Standards, Red Hat -
> >>>> http://community.redhat.com
> >>>> Ph: +33 9 50 71 55 62 / Cell: +33 6 77 01 92 13
> >>>>
> > _______________________________________________
> > Users mailing list
> > Users(a)ovirt.org
> > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
>
>
2:08 a.m.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl(a)redhat.com>
To: "Simon Grinberg" <simon(a)redhat.com>
Cc: users(a)ovirt.org, "Shireesh Anjal" <sanjal(a)redhat.com>
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 5:51:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Users] Package installation error
----- Original Message -----
> From: "Simon Grinberg" <simon(a)redhat.com>
> To: "Shireesh Anjal" <sanjal(a)redhat.com>
> Cc: users(a)ovirt.org, "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl(a)redhat.com>
> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 5:46:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [Users] Package installation error
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Shireesh Anjal" <sanjal(a)redhat.com>
> > To: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl(a)redhat.com>
> > Cc: "Simon Grinberg" <simon(a)redhat.com>, users(a)ovirt.org
> > Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 8:34:40 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Users] Package installation error
> >
> > On 03/22/2013 12:11 AM, Alon Bar-Lev wrote:
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: "Simon Grinberg" <simon(a)redhat.com>
> > >> To: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl(a)redhat.com>
> > >> Cc: users(a)ovirt.org, "Sahina Bose"
<sabose(a)redhat.com>, "Dave
> > >> Neary" <dneary(a)redhat.com>
> > >> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 7:40:17 PM
> > >> Subject: Re: [Users] Package installation error
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >>> From: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl(a)redhat.com>
> > >>> To: "Dave Neary" <dneary(a)redhat.com>
> > >>> Cc: users(a)ovirt.org, "Sahina Bose"
<sabose(a)redhat.com>,
> > >>> "Simon
> > >>> Grinberg" <simon(a)redhat.com>
> > >>> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 6:35:56 PM
> > >>> Subject: Re: [Users] Package installation error
> > >>>
> > >>> Simon?
> > >>>
> > >>> ----- Original Message -----
> > >>>> From: "Dave Neary" <dneary(a)redhat.com>
> > >>>> To: "Sahina Bose" <sabose(a)redhat.com>
> > >>>> Cc: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl(a)redhat.com>,
users(a)ovirt.org
> > >>>> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 6:34:56 PM
> > >>>> Subject: Re: [Users] Package installation error
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Hi,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On 03/19/2013 05:24 AM, Sahina Bose wrote:
> > >>>>> You are right - Gluster 3.4 is only required to manage
> > >>>>> gluster
> > >>>>> clusters.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Currently the question asked at setup is this :
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> "The engine can be configured to present the UI in
three
> > >>>>> different
> > >>>>> application modes. virt [Manage virtualization only],
> > >>>>> gluster
> > >>>>> [Manage
> > >>>>> gluster storage only],
> > >>>>> and both [Manage virtualization as well as gluster
> > >>>>> storage]"
> > >>>>> where
> > >>>>> both
> > >>>>> is the default.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> If this is confusing to the user, we can change this
> > >>>>> message.
> > >>>>> Suggestions?
> > >>>> I would either:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> (a) put "Virt" as the default, or
> > >> I would go for this one, this keeps backwards compatibility.
> > >> Is there an easy method to change this configuration later?
> > > Yes, changing the cluster settings.
> >
> > No - you can change the cluster settings (virt service/gluster
> > service)
> > only if the application mode is "both". In virt only mode, the
> > cluster
> > is virt only, and same with gluster-only. So if you want user to
> > be
> > able
> > to change the mode *after* installation, this config
> > (ApplicationMode)
> > must be exposed in the engine-config tool.
>
> So if I'll try to sum up (with reference to other emails on this
> thread).
> 1. Default should be virt only
> 2. Keep the question and better explain what is the Gluster option
> (preferable a link to the relevant page)
> 3. Add a config option to easily change the selection later
> Need to think about the implication of the third option in case the
> change conflicts with hosts/clusters that are already configured
> other wise.
> Example: Initial selection was Virt and now adding dual mode -
> always
> OK
> Example: Initial selection was Virt, no host in the setup, and now
> changing to Gluster mode - OK
> Example: Initial selection was Virt, Hosts already in the setup
> installed in virt mode, and now changing to Gluster mode - What
> will
> we do?
>
> My take,
> Config option can only set to dual mode, never the other way
> around.
> This will save the need to add sophisticated logic
>
> Sounds right?
Yes, but I am unsure that this is a single config option...
Maybe I did not understand you properly, but I think this should be
an option in the UI.
AFAIK, it's an option in the _options table that is not yet exposed to the -config
utility
The reason it's there since it's alters the appearance and removes some GUI
options in the first place.
And... if this option is in UI, then... why do we need anything at
setup...? user can log into the system and configure the cluster in
any way he likes.
Well that was the initial idea behind the dual mode, everything exposed and the user
selects in the GUI on the cluster level what to use. This confuses users as this thread
apparently exposes. Users that do not care about Glusters would like not to bother to set
this up on each cluster, and vice verse.
I am thinking into the future that when first login into the admin
console there should be some wizard, instead of performing this at
setup time.
If configuration options are allowed to be dynamically modified (and we are working to
have it so) this does not contradict, the wizard is just a first login graphical setup.
>
>
> >
> > >
> > >>>> (b) remove this question entirely - if someone is installing
> > >>>> oVirt,
> > >>>> assume they want to manage virt. If someone is installing
> > >>>> Gluster,
> > >>>> have
> > >>>> an option during the Gluster install to have the oVirt
> > >>>> management
> > >>>> console.
> > >> We do want people to get exposed to the Gluster option.
> > >>
> > >>>> If someone wants to manage both their Gluster bricks and
> > >>>> their
> > >>>> virt
> > >>>> with
> > >>>> oVirt, I would make that a post-install option to oVirt -
> > >>>> perhaps
> > >>>> with
> > >>>> an extra package to install (which would depend on the later
> > >>>> version
> > >>>> of
> > >>>> Gluster).
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Cheers,
> > >>>> Dave.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> On 03/19/2013 01:41 PM, Dave Neary wrote:
> > >>>>>> Hi,
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> On 03/19/2013 08:16 AM, Alon Bar-Lev wrote:
> > >>>>>>> Now I am confused....
> > >>>>>>> Do you or don't you need vdsm-gluster on your
system?
> > >>>>>> Allow me to clarify.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> There have been several messages from users since the
> > >>>>>> oVirt
> > >>>>>> 3.2
> > >>>>>> release asking why they need Gluster 3.4 pre-releases
to
> > >>>>>> run
> > >>>>>> oVirt.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> My understanding is that you don't need Gluster
3.4 unless
> > >>>>>> you
> > >>>>>> want to
> > >>>>>> manage a Gluster cluster with oVirt.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> So my question is: are we sure that we are not
leading
> > >>>>>> users
> > >>>>>> wrong,
> > >>>>>> and confusing them during the installation &
set-up
> > >>>>>> process?
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Thanks,
> > >>>>>> Dave.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>> --
> > >>>> Dave Neary - Community Action and Impact
> > >>>> Open Source and Standards, Red Hat -
> > >>>> http://community.redhat.com
> > >>>> Ph: +33 9 50 71 55 62 / Cell: +33 6 77 01 92 13
> > >>>>
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Users mailing list
> > > Users(a)ovirt.org
> > > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
> >
> >
>
4:13 p.m.
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